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escriptions of most titles. > o 10% discount on all software purchases through Club. What's it cost to join the "CD ROM Club"? Do you have all cataloged CDs in stock? And are the catalogs free? Cheers, Martin --- DB 1.53/002411 * Origin: CD ROM. CD ROM run slow. CD ROM run VERY slow. (3:632/335) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANTONY WUTH Number: 1510 To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 08/22/93 1:23a Subj: WANTED: Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Marlin, 16 Aug 93 16:15, Marlin Rowley wrote to Antony Wuth: MR> Antony, MR> I use MCI's Cd Audio. I don't know what version of windows you have MR> but if you want my version, I am more than willing to give it to you. It all work's fine now. I got really really mad at windows, deteted it waited about an hour, Reinstalled it and it all worked. I think it was just a great microsoft mistery. seya Antony --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Anto's Point! (3:620/250.7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PHIL BURTON Number: 1511 To: STEPHEN RANSON Date: 08/23/93 2:11p Subj: Re: Cd-roms - Exlnt Prices Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ===> Overheard Rowan Evans say something to Stephen Ranson ===> about Cd-roms - Exlnt Prices. RE> Sorry, you can't tempt me! I can source several of the CD-ROMs you RE> mention (the ones I am interested in!) from other dealers cheaper! Hi Rowan, Would like to know where you are referring to, after checking out the US prices in this echo the Aussi ones are nothing short of depressing. (No input from anyone re the exchange rate, etc. I've been through all that and the US prices are still cheaper than ours.) Anyway, am interested in knowing where the best prices are so I can check 'em out. Cheers, ... Smash forehead on keyboard to continue..... --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: BOP BBS - Canberra's Most Original +61-6-292-3832 (3:620/266.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEPHEN EATON Number: 1512 To: MICHAEL M Date: 08/22/93 8:18a Subj: Re: CD-Rom Problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No G'day Michael, SE> I'm using the Adaptec 1542 controller and all the associated MM> I had this problem, using a 1540. Removing the jumper MM> from the auto sense MM> disable (J6, pin 5) has cured it! I'll give it a go, thanks for that. I did think it was the 1542, but I'll give it a go. Thanks, Stephen --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Southern Realm (3:690/352) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SUNNY LEUNG Number: 1513 To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 11:19a Subj: Panasonic 562/563 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi everybody, I've got a SB 16ASP hooked up to the old SB Pro CD-ROM. I'm thinking of upgrading to the new Panasonic double speed drive. Does anyone in Australia supply this drive, and what would be the price? BTW, what's the difference between the 562 and 563? Another question <g> from me - has anyone got a Waveblaster? What's it like in terms of quality etc. ? There does not seem to be any software that supports it though ... Regards, Sunny. --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: (3:712/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SUNNY LEUNG Number: 1514 To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 11:24a Subj: Aus Creative Labs BBS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi everybody, Is there a Creative Labs BBS in Australia. If so, what's the number? Regards, Sunny. ... I can't steer without my beer. --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: (3:712/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRENDAN FARTHING Number: 1515 To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 6:08p Subj: Aust. Phone Disc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Has anyone used the Australian Phone Book CD ? Also, does anyone know the difference between the one that sells for about $1500.00 (I think it's called Aus On Disc) and the one that sells for about $50.00 (This one is called Australian Phone Disk). The one that sells for $50 contains the entire Yellow and White Pages for every state in Australia. Why is there such a HUGE price difference between that disk and the $1500.00 one ?????? Anyone that knows please reply, Regards, Brendan Farthing. --- Ezycom V1.02 00f90022 * Origin: 500cc F1 BBS - 4 Gigs, 10 V32Bis Lines, 02-5504317 (3:712/218) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG SHEPPARD Number: 1516 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 1:37a Subj: Double speed Cd-Rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SH@-}Everbody, I would like to know that whether that the speed of the SH@-}CPU(386/486) will affect the performance of the CD-Rom. It is because I SH@-}would like to purchase a CD-Rom but I don't know if one of my old 386 SH@-}can handle... Thank You! Sunny, Yes, your CPU will affect the CD-ROM. You failed to mention if you had a DX or an SX. I have a 386DX/33 with 8MB of RAM, and my Mitsumi drive works very smoothly; the animation in Wing Commander 2 is very smooth, with only the most graphics-packed screens have a millisecond pause. Nothing big, it's not even annoying. Well, back to the issue...there is one aspect of a CD-ROM that a processor upgrade would help tremendously, and that is the time it takes to load things. I've noticed that, even though animation is fine, a friend's 486DX-50 just blows mine away in the time it takes to load something. It's your decision. I'd say buy it from a reputable dealer, try it out, and if it just doesn't suit your fancy, return it. It's up to you...:) Good luck, Craig in South Jersey * SLMR 2.1a * Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic --- VFIDO 6.10.03 * Origin: K'tithrak Mang BBS (609) 453-0541 (1:266/75) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM TITTSLER Number: 1517 To: DAVID YIELDING Date: 08/24/93 5:41p Subj: Re: Chinon/Adaptec Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DY> Does anyone out there have a Chinon 435 on an Adaptec 1542b working? DY> mine will "see" the drive but tells me the media is invalid. You may not have the latest firmware in your 435. To use DISCONNECT /RECONNECT (which is on by default with the 1542) you should get firmware version M62. This is available from Chinon America (1-310-533-0274). You can also use software from the Adaptec BBS to disable DISCONNECT RECONNECT on your 1542b (which is actually a good idea if you are using DOS). ___ --- FMail 0.92 * Origin: IMS-NET #1 Tokyo,Japan (6:730/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAM TEMPLE Number: 1518 To: VINCE SORENSEN Date: 08/22/93 1:15p Subj: CANADIAN SOURCE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Vince Sorensen wrote in a message to Pam Temple: VS> Yes, we sure do have a catalogue. If you want, you could VS> leave your address here, 10,000 Sussex Drive, Rosedale, B.C. V0X 1X0 VS> looking forward to hearing from you - thanks for asking! ThankYOU. Cheers, Pam --- timEd/B8 * Origin: A Brand new FTN System! (1:153/602.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DONATO RABAGO Number: 1519 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/22/93 8:54p Subj: SHIPPING? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I am from Guadalajara Jalisco., MEXICO, and I would like to know if you can ship any CD-ROM to México. If you can I would like a price list, please sent it --- SuperBBS 1.17-3 (Eval) * Origin: *CyberNet* BBS [IDS] / Guadalajara, Mexico (4:970/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DONATO RABAGO Number: 1520 To: BLAINE RICHARD Date: 08/22/93 8:57p Subj: CDS? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Did I undestand? Do you produce adult CDs or you just sell them?, I m very interested. I would like to get some here in Guadalajara Mexico, is there any way? --- SuperBBS 1.17-3 (Eval) * Origin: *CyberNet* BBS [IDS] / Guadalajara, Mexico (4:970/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DONATO RABAGO Number: 1521 To: BILLY BATTON Date: 08/22/93 8:59p Subj: CDs? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Do you sell adult CDs? Can you ship to Guadalajara? If you can , could you let me know about prices and terms? If you can, Thank you --- SuperBBS 1.17-3 (Eval) * Origin: *CyberNet* BBS [IDS] / Guadalajara, Mexico (4:970/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 1522 To: LOYD CRAFT Date: 08/23/93 1:30p Subj: Custom cdrom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LC=> **** Digital Enterprises **** LC=> Custom CDROM Service Could you send a flyer to: Adrian Salas 2434 East 32nd Street, National City, CA 91950-7710, I would really like your prices, but I have to run now... Thanks. * QMPro 1.50 41-2384 * Democracy-A catchword used by Democrats and Republicans --- WM v3.00/91-0098 * Origin: Uni-Rom BBS - San Diego <USA> - (619) 279-4774 (1:202/920.0) (1:20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 1523 To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/23/93 1:34p Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BO=> *************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S *************** BO=>Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare -$1199. Hi, I'm kinda new to this stuff, so what do you mean about bare? And what does complete cost? If you want to respond by net-mail, send to 1:202/1705, from 10:pm to 7:am PST. Adrian Salas * QMPro 1.50 41-2384 * Human Error - It's all ***YOUR*** Fault --- WM v3.00/91-0098 * Origin: Uni-Rom BBS - San Diego <USA> - (619) 279-4774 (1:202/920.0) (1:20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 1524 To: GLEN PIWOARCZYK Date: 08/23/93 1:36p Subj: FREE CDROM CATALOG! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Also Please send a catalog to: Adrian Salas 2434 East 32nd Street, National City, CA 91950-7710 * QMPro 1.50 41-2384 * Drop your carrier ... we have you surrounded! --- WM v3.00/91-0098 * Origin: Uni-Rom BBS - San Diego <USA> - (619) 279-4774 (1:202/920.0) (1:20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 1525 To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 1:40p Subj: Catalog wanted Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi, I have seen posts here relating to catalogs being mailed on request, would any dealers here please add my name to your mailing list and send me your catalogs? I always like to get the best deal around. Adrian Salas 2434 East 32nd Street, National City, CA 91950-7710 * QMPro 1.50 41-2384 * Windows is irrelevant. It's existance is futile. --- WM v3.00/91-0098 * Origin: Uni-Rom BBS - San Diego <USA> - (619) 279-4774 (1:202/920.0) (1:20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROY D'ARCANGELO Number: 1526 To: SAM JONES Date: 08/24/93 3:22p Subj: Panasonic BenchMrk Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thanks Sam I will get it from there.... --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Southern Star - 6 Lines - HST/V32b - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL GEGGUS Number: 1527 To: JOE SLIFER Date: 08/23/93 12:36p Subj: Re: MITSUMI DRIVES VS PANASONIC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Joe Slifer to Michael Geggus <=- MG> benches at 250ms @ 330Kbps using MegaDemo CDBench......Although I bought MG> the SB Pro seperatly from the CD-ROM I paid $129 for the SB Pro w/STW MG> encyclopedia for Win MPC, indy 500 and Lemmings (plus other goodies) and JS> Could you supply that source for the SB Pro & bundeled software. Computabiity in the Computer Shopper has it for $129US phone 1-800-554-9950 or (414)357-8181 if you can't use 800#s (like me, Japan). Fax (414)357-7814. They only charged me $6 for shipping to an APO (mil post office) in Japan, and it took 3 days to get it. Mike... --- Blue Wave/TG v2.10 [NR] * Origin: The Texas Lighthouse 81-3117-63-7572 (6:731/18.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL GEGGUS Number: 1528 To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/23/93 6:33p Subj: Re: BEGINING... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Rowan Evans to Michael Geggus <=- MG> CD ROM I/F and audio connector. MegaDemo Benched it at 250ms access MG> and 330Kbps. RE> RE> That's interesting... it only spex at 300Kbps and 450ms in RE> double-speed mode! Different Machines/environments/benchmarks/references....My Mitsumi book indicated a 350ms access and MegaDemos CDbench said it was 400ms and 150kBps.....The real key was during operations, I noticed the difference straight away. RE> What command line parameters did you use for CDMKE41.SYS.... I RE> couldn't get it to work so I changed to SBCD.SYS (and it works RE> fine!)..... This is it....... devicehigh /L:2,13440 =C:\CDMKE41.SYS /D:MVCD001 /R /SBP:220 /N:1 /A: I only added the /A: from the read.me text on the driver disk, it's not really necessary it should default to doublespeed. I've tried it high and low, and both run great with same spex. ... The question is.....What's to become of the Mitsumi in the box? --- Blue Wave/TG v2.10 [NR] * Origin: The Texas Lighthouse 81-3117-63-7572 (6:731/18.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL GEGGUS Number: 1529 To: SAM JONES Date: 08/23/93 12:55p Subj: Re: 562-b Driver Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Sam Jones to Michael Geggus <=- MG> the driver (my case CDMKE41.SYS) came with the CD- SJ> Hello, I also have the Panasonic 562-b and the drive seems to be SJ> very fast, except for one problem: In DOTT and kQ6 everything pauses SJ> for a split-second whenever the drive is accessed (ex- to read the SJ> speech data) then everthing is ok (no choppiness in speech or SJ> graphics). The driver I am using is SBCD.SYS. I would like to try the SJ> driver you are using, could you give me the # of a board that I could SJ> download it from on a first-time call if possible? Thanks, Sam Sam, the driver (CDMKE41.SYS) came with the drive and controller, purchased from Wee Yung (TRUC) who usually frequents this echo. My only local BBSs are here (sigh) in Japan, and I havn't seen it or SBCD.SYS or SBPCD.SYS here Maybe Wee Yung could assist you there. As for your delay what CPU are you using and how much memory do you have/ allocate to the CD-ROM. I use the standard set-up with CDMKE41.SYS (no mention of raw buffers unlike the Mitsumi) and MSCDEX uses 20 EMS buffers. Both drivers are loaded high (by Memmaker) on a doublespaced disk using DOS 6.0 (Ok DOS 6 haters take your shots). I'm not experiencing delays but I did with the mitsumi. The Mitsumi used DMA access (specified by the driver) The 562B driver did not specify DMA access. I am assumming through discussions here and throughout that on 486 machines (386 too I beleive) that DMA access is actually slower (DMA controllers I should say) than actually using CPU for access.....Food for thought...hope it helps? Mike..... ... Swapped the LU005 for the 562B captain.........Warp 9 Mr. Scott... --- Blue Wave/TG v2.10 [NR] * Origin: The Texas Lighthouse 81-3117-63-7572 (6:731/18.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL GEGGUS Number: 1530 To: MICHEL ROMY Date: 08/23/93 12:59p Subj: Re: Panasonic 562b Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Michel Romy to All <=- MR> Can anyone give me the spec. of the Panasonic 562B CD-Rom drive ? is Book says 380ms at 300Kbps (mine was faster using MegaDemo CDbench) Caddyless motorized tray, very nicely made. Some say you can get it for $249US internal. I paid $279US for it with controller, although I didn't need the controller as it plugs sraight into the SB Pro. Don't know of an external, but post a msg to Wee Yung this echo and he'll certainly reply........ MIke.... ... No problem is too big for High Explosives! --- Blue Wave/TG v2.10 [NR] * Origin: The Texas Lighthouse 81-3117-63-7572 (6:731/18.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON SCHMIDT Number: 1531 To: MICHAEL HAJOVSKY Date: 08/22/93 6:43a Subj: Re: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MH> Who was it that said... MH> "I DISAGREE OF WHAT YOU SAY, BUT WILL DEFEND TO THE DEATH YOUR MH> RIGHT TO SAY IT" Some idiot.<g> [MTN_QWK 1.0]- ******* Waste is a terrible thing to mine. ******* --- WM v3.00/92-0634 * Origin: DON'T PANIC! Resistance is USELESS! 206-573-9411 (1:105/107.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIAN BISATZ Number: 1532 To: MARTIN ROODENBURG Date: 08/21/93 1:55a Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Martin You write the MITSUMI Drive has a 16-Bit AT-Bus interface. Since i intend to buy one of them, I'd like to know if it is possible to run this drives with two AT-BUS hard-drives install. Greetings from switzerland Gian. S QSZ portx %4 rz %3 / * 1st 1.11 #2201 * Point of no return !! --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta-'h' * Origin: Hitline Mailbox CH-Hausen (2:301/213) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOTHAR KUENZEL Number: 1533 To: DONALD WEN Date: 08/20/93 6:56p Subj: Re: te koop diverse cdrom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi, Donald! 15 Aug 93 15:41, Donald Wen wrote to Jurrie Hobers: DW> Jurrie Hobers wrote, lots of Stuff deleted DW> Please, write in English. I caught this message here in San Francisco, DW> Calif. USA, and so will thousands of English-only speakers around. By the DW> way, are you Finnish? I am quite sure, Jurrie is a neighbour of mine from The Netherlands. Tschuess, See You later, Au Revoir, Ciao, Lothar --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: DOWNTOWN * Guetersloh * Germany * +49-5241-340638 (2:243/6171.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PHIL HORNBY Number: 1534 To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/19/93 11:08p Subj: Mistumi/Sb/Sbpro Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Mark, On Wednesday August 11 1993, Mark Womack wrote to All: MW> But while I was looking at the SBPro board, I noticed a plug that MW> was identified as PC SPEAKER MW> The manual has no explanation of what it's for. See Page 18 and Appendix D of the "Getting Started" manual ... :-) MW> It's 2 MW> prongs and my speaker wire won't match it because it's 4 prongs. Only two wires are used to connect the speaker; you'll probably be able to see which two; you'll need to make up a lead to go from the motherboard to the SB/Pro. The polarity of the two connectors is important for it to work, but doesn't seem to do any lasting damage if you get 'em the wrong way round ;-) (Despite careful testing with my multimeter, I still managed to get them back-to-front, at the first attempt) MW> I wonder what output goes to the speaker - the sound output? No, it's the other way round....the beeps that would have gone to the internal speaker, get redirected to the SoundBlaster. I don't know if my motherboard is unusual, but I had a wire a 3K3 resistor in series with the speaker o/p, to reduce the volume a bit. Without it, the beeps came out as {{{{{BEEPS}}}}}} :-) Phil. --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: Season's End <Leeds, Yorkshire, UK> (2:250/339.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOOP STOKVIS Number: 1535 To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 08/18/93 2:52p Subj: SO MUCH SHAREWARE III Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Ismail! Could you send me a catolog with all your CDroms? My address is: Joop Stokvis C/o Stichting BBS Waterland PObox 1196 1440 BD Purmerend The Netherlands Thanks in advance! Groeten! Joop --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: BBS Waterland is now node 2:280/802 (12 lines) (2:280/803) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOOP STOKVIS Number: 1536 To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/18/93 2:55p Subj: NIGHT OWLS 9 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boris! Could you send me a catalog? My address is: Joop Stokvis C/o Stichting BBS Waterland PObox 1196 1440 BD Purmerend The Netherlands I'am intersted in players as well! Thanks! Groeten! Joop --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: BBS Waterland is now node 2:280/802 (12 lines) (2:280/803) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOOP STOKVIS Number: 1537 To: MICHAEL KONOR Date: 08/18/93 2:57p Subj: SCSI CDROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Michael! > SCSI CDROMs For Sale: > > Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00 > Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00 Do you ship them to Europe as well? I'am interested in 2 external drives! You could send me a fax to: xx31 2990 43030. Groeten! Joop --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: BBS Waterland is now node 2:280/802 (12 lines) (2:280/803) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAN WILLEM RUYS Number: 1538 To: PADDY DRURY Date: 08/18/93 10:04p Subj: DINOSAURS ? WHICH ONE ?? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Me HAVE to have dinosaur cd Media design interactive features a CD on Dinosaurs. I don't know the exact price, but it is in the region of 120 $. Contact them on +44 252 737630, or FAX +44 252 710948. Cheers, _/an Willem --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: BBS Waterland is now node 2:280/802 (12 lines) (2:280/803) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONNY LIN Number: 1539 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/19/93 3:56p Subj: Re: Encyclopedias Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No 05 Aug 93 20:20, Mike Shannon wrote to David Calvin: MS> We have the Grolier's Illustrated version 2.0 at $35. The MPC version MS> is $48. Call any time if interested. Let me know the different between them. Tks! MS> VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5 How about oversea ? --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: Long Fellow BBS (6:722/207) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 1540 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/22/93 7:18p Subj: NEW CD-SOUTHERN BEAUTIES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MS>BR>> BR> ********** SOUTHERN BEAUTIES MAY NOT BE USED ON ANY BBS MS>Then why did you put FILES.BBS on it? > ^^^ I think that is called meeting the letter, but not the intent of the copyright laws. <G> It's kind of like Neverlock saying not to use their program unless you have purchased the program you are unprotecting. ;) Jim... --- FreeMail 1.08b * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 1541 To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 8:32p Subj: CD-Rom Catalog Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have just finished making our new CD-Rom catalog. We have many new products and have reduced the price on a lot of the others. If you would like a copy of this catalog, please log on and download catalog.zip. It lists all of our titles with prices and descriptions. Computer Works Jim... CD-Rom Sales! (205) 793-4481 Voice (205) 671-0092 BBS 14.4k Online Credit Card & COD Orders --- FreeMail 1.08b * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM FREDERICK Number: 1542 To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 5:44p Subj: 7th Guest... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I'm having problems with 7Th guest. I bought it when it first came out, and played it through. I haven't tried to play it for a while. In the meantime I upgraded from DOS 5 to DOS 6.... now it won't work at all. Has anyone else had this problem? My settings in my config and autoexec are the same, I have even more free memory. What's the problem? I'm open to suggestions..... thanks. Jim. --- WM v3.01/93-0070 * Origin: GATEWAY ONLINE SYSTEMS, Lakeland Fl. 813-686-8530 (1 (1:3635/20.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID WILLS Number: 1543 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/24/93 7:52a Subj: ANIME CD? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >Not specifically, but I've seen a few .GIFs taken from Anime.... Oh yes, there's plenty to find but I was hoping for an all-anime CD. The Alde carasele(sp), Night Own, and Pheonix series have a few scattered around but they fail to put them in their own directory. They also don't point out that they _are_ anime, or toons for that matter. Hmm, I think Alde does however. Just a "Japanese animation" blurb for a file description tho... Mabey some _very_ nice person could put the entire contents of the directory \anime-manga, venice.mps.ohio-state.edu, on a CD or two. There's more than enough for a pair of CDs, mabey a trio... (this is prevented by all sorts of thorny issues like Copyrights and who owns what) <sigh> (Don't you just love red tape?) * QMPro 1.50 46-3790 * I was on a roll, till I slipped on the butter. --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Your source for TBBS enhancement software! (1:322/360) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROB MCINTYRE Number: 1544 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/24/93 7:02a Subj: CD LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No What is the JEDI Collection ? Is it a Star Wars library ? --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: *** Electronic Encounters - Ottawa Ontario, Canada *** (1:163/133) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAHMUT KURSUN Number: 1545 To: ERIC VANEBERCK Date: 08/21/93 2:39p Subj: CDROM sellout. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > MK> Why dont you ask me? Shipping from Germany to Belgium is cheaper than > MK> shipping within Belgium. this was a mistake. I compared the Shippingrate of Books/Newspapers, shipping books is really cheap within European Community. But CDROM is approx. 8 German Marks for 2 CDROM within European Community. bye --- * Origin: Monster Point 1290 (2:246/4.1290) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 1546 To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 08/22/93 11:37a Subj: Re: Free Catalog Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Chris About your message, i'm very interested in a list of available CD's CC> C-3 Production Systems is now online. If you would like to receive CC> catalog of CD-ROM disks at discount prices, leave message here, give CC> me a call or write to the address below. Roberto A. Reyes 14422 Industry Ave. Suite 7-54 Laredo, TX 78041 Thank You. * QMPro 1.02 41-1025 * Alexander Graham Bell was a 'phoney! --- * Origin: Creaturas de la Noche *IDS* [Monterrey México] (4:971/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 1547 To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 10:49p Subj: Norton SpeedCache Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey everyone, please tell me what this Norton SpeedCache is, is this a cache for the CD-ROM if so, does it come with Norton Utilities, or is it a totaly different product and how much does it cost and does it work, you see I have a 350 ms 150 kb/sec Mitsumi drive and though I am perfectly satisfied by it sofar, I would like to speed it up, so please tell me what this SpeedCache is about, thanx and C-ya Ashwin --- WM v2.06 [Eval]/ * Origin: $$$$ Fort Knox BBS $$$$ 2 Nodes <16.8 HST-DS> (1:324/293) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WEE YUNG Number: 1548 To: ALL Date: 08/21/93 8:21a Subj: $19 For Cdrom Titles Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TRUC 16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723 fax 310-402-7240 Call 310-602-2076 8am-12pm, 6pm-9pm PST ask Wee Yung. D/Generation with Mario Missing.$19* DTP Pro FM - Wave Clip-art......$29 Elec Lib of Art v.I or v.II.....$35 Essential home & bus. sharewares$19* Family Education Programs Collec$29 Family choice/ Britannica.......$29 Family Doctor Dos/Mac...........$29 Great Cities Vol. I or V II.....$35 Guinness Disk of Record 93 MPC..$29 Guinness Disk of Records no MPC.$19* Games Pack II...................$25 International Bus & Econ Atlas..$29 IBM OS/2 v2.1 upgrade...........$89 IBM OS/2 v2.1 regular...........$139 Jones In fast Lane MPC..........$19* Jets & Props MPC 2CDs...........$29 King's Quest V..................$19* Kodak Photo access..............$19* Add $3 for shipping and handling. No exchange for difference titles. * OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240 *** Maximus 2.00 * Origin: Long_Island RB (310) 370-4113 VAX EC (HST 16.8K/V32b) (1:102/138) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WEE YUNG Number: 1549 To: RACHEL REPSTAD Date: 08/21/93 8:21a Subj: Cd-rom Drives Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RR>I would very much like any information on new or used CD- RR>ROM drives for sale. 350ms or less please and SBPro The Panasonic drive would hook direct to your SB Pro. CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$195. CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$279. MIDI cable for any sound card with Joystick port...............$19. Price does not included shipping. Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC 16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra * OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240 *** Maximus 2.00 * Origin: Long_Island RB (310) 370-4113 VAX EC (HST 16.8K/V32b) (1:102/138) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEPHEN KOVACSISS Number: 1550 To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 08/21/93 11:15p Subj: Explain Sound Cards To Me Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MR}TurtleBeach, (4) Gravis' UltraSound (by the way, it's not TRUE 16-bit }"playback") (5) Any of the other 8/16-bit sound boards that can record in Where do find that the UltraSound is not TRUE 16-bit? Stephen * 1st 1.11 * Why did Kamakazi pilots wear helmets??? *** TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CanCom BBS - Canton, OH (1:157/629) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1551 To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 3:31a Subj: Red Hot Specials Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No $$$$$$$ R E D H O T C D' S A T R E D H O T P R I C E S $$$$$$$ ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 - PRICE - $25.00ec ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX PRICE - $15.00ec ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM PRICE - $35.00ec MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE PRICE - $25.00ec PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10. KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60. COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - - 24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO Boris Osadciw ... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it! *** FMail 0.96* * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1552 To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 3:31a Subj: New Additions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ N E W A D D I T I O N S ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LAN MASTER - 100mgs - 2255 files - Utilities, Programs, Text, & More! Files.BBS Structure - PRICE - $29. PRECISION - v1.5 - Most Complete Mapping Program Of It's Kind! With CAD, MAPPING Zoom & Mouse Support + FREE Business Phone Book - PRICE - $79. ROMATERIAL - Designer/Animated icons, Sound F/X in 6 languages, unique cursors,blankers, celebrity impressions & More! - PRICE - $25. KINGS QUEST- ALL NEW adventure game with Super Graphics & Sound. VI - PRICE - $49. ORDER LINE ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759 Boris Osadciw ... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it! *** FMail 0.96* * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON KULHA Number: 1553 To: JOE HAYES Date: 08/21/93 7:10p Subj: Cdrom Slows Bbs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DK> about WEB NOS is that it's less finicky about what network cards it DK> can use andin some instances supports more options on them (ie, DK> addresses/IRQs). Good stuff...made my life a bit more pleasant. Their DK> number is1.415.331.1449 in Sausalito, CA. JH> Thanks or the info Don, Just wondering, will the WEB JH> NOS work with the lantasti 2mbps cards? JH> If so how much do they want for there software? I have no idea what the list is. Have a friend selling it for $40 per node. As far as I know the lantastic 2mbps cards don't work with anything but lantastic. I'd sell them with lantastic to someone and switch over to 10mbps coax ethernet cards which can be had for $65 for new NE2000 clones or used 3Com cards. I think your CDROM would respond very positively to the faster interface cards and faster network software. I used to have collisions with my 7 cdroms that would lockup and kill Lantastic. Not so with the WEB Nos. DCK *** Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Sonoma Online (1:125/7) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ROBERTSON Number: 1554 To: ERIC HSIAO Date: 08/22/93 9:45p Subj: Speedcache & Disc Caddies Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi, Eric! EH> MCSDEX driver 3.02 - is that the latest? Also, I EH> noticed that various stores can rip you off with the EH> price of caddies. I went to a local computer show and EH> they had caddies for $4-4.50 each, but when I went Well, I've found that if you look in DOS 6.0's directory you'll find MSCDEX 2.22 parked there, that is unless you are using a BETA version or prhaps you didn't read the version # correctly. Also with respect to your comment on the prices of caddies you should be aware that there are copies of the licensed caddies out there... easily recognized by several facets 1) The clear lid should have no ripples on the surface, & 2) The printing on the back of the CD caddies should be crisp and sharp. I don't know where the copies are coming from but there are only two licensed plants in the world for making these, one is in Japan, and the other in the USA. The Japanese version uses a stainless steel shutter and the USA version is aluminum. The copies will jam in your cd player or they will cause your spin motor to suffer from excessive drag. The better cd players such as SONY or TOSHIBA will spit these out as they slow down the motor from being uneven and causing the coupler to drag, I don't know what happens in the TEXEL (UAC) drive but I wouldn't want ot find out. So in closing there may be a good reason why those caddies are so cheap at the swap meets, that may be all they are worth! :-# *** Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: John's Jukes Tech BBS Voice(604)872-5757 FAX 872-8073 (1:153/7080) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROY D'ARCANGELO Number: 1555 To: SAM JONES Date: 08/23/93 10:19a Subj: Panasonic Benchmrk Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Aug 22 23:04>, Sam Jones of 1:396/27 writes: SJ>> on how to correct the situation? RE>> RE>> Sorry... I think its one of those things you have to live with! If RE>> you think its bad, try running on a friends (or dealers) single SJ> SJ> Hello, Well after playing around with the newer version of SBCD.SYS (6/93) SJ> I can now definately say that all of my audio problems are GONE! The slight SJ> video pause is still there (though now barely noticeable) and I can live with SJ> it! I am so glad that this was a driver problem! Later, Sam SJ> SJ> -!- Maximus 2.01wb SJ> ! Origin: The Node III BBS New Orleans LA (504) 347-4320 (1:396/27) I came into your message I guess a little late. I was wondering if you were talking about a driver for the newer Panasonics, 562b. I just got one the other day and installed it with the software disk that came with it. The software does not have SBCD.SYS though. I have a SB PRO, 8-bit card, that I am using with this CD. Can you advise where I might be able to obtain the latest drivers for the above. Thanks... *** msgedsq 2.1a * Origin: Roy's Point - New Orleans, La. (1:396/1.6) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS ROBINSON Number: 1556 To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/23/93 9:04a Subj: 16 Bit Sound Card Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No It looks like Creative Labs has sold you. They all use the OPL-3 so the quality is the same. I just want the flexibility of SCSI as Panasonic is not the only double-speed drives around. There's plenty of software packed with it (Midisoft Sequencer, CD player, text-to-speech, Trackblaster Pro, Pro Mixer,etc.). I don't think either of us are going to be disappointed in any way thanks to MediaVision and Creative Labs strong hold in sound. Have fun and make noise ....... CR *** WM v3.01/92-0004 * Origin: The Computer Room-Pickerington, Oh (614)861-8377 (1:226/110.0) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB JACKSON Number: 1557 To: DAVID BURKE Date: 08/23/93 11:58a Subj: Thanks Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Not being a sysop, I don't know how echos are started/stopped. Your suggestions are good ones, IMHO. Someone had suggested an adult CD-ROM echo, but I haven't seen any traffic about it lately. Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2 *** FreeMail 1.07b * Origin: The Bit Bucket * Houston, Tx * 713/496-9670 * (1:106/9670) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SAM JONES Number: 1558 To: ROY D'ARCANGELO Date: 08/23/93 2:19p Subj: Panasonic Benchmrk Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No If you are here in N.O, i have uploaded the file(s) SBCD_DOS.ZIP and SBCD.ZIP to a few local BBS's (La MedSig, Just Trying It, Southern Star, Node III) so if you look around on these boards you can dnload it there. Later, Sam *** Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Node III BBS New Orleans LA (504) 347-4320 (1:396/27) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 1559 To: KEN BACHMAN @ 930/1 Date: 08/22/93 10:30p Subj: Re: Cd-rom Games Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey Ken, I just got 7th guest and I have gone pretty far, in it though now the puzzles seem to be getting harder and harder, and I was considering to buy Sherlock Holmes, but you see I have the regular Sherlock Holmes and the Lost Files, it took 28 meg and I was stuck in the begining of that game for a long time so I don't intened to buy anymore Sherlock Holmes games, but I really want to buy Wing Commander II deluxe, too bad the place I went did not have it, by the way what kind of CD-ROM do you have and what CD-ROM games do you have for it? Do you use any CD-ROM cache? well write back. C_ya Ashwin *** WM v2.03/92-0157 * Origin: Hawk's Nest BBS Methuen, Ma. (508) 688-1979(1:324/123) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 1560 To: BRENT LYNCH Date: 08/22/93 10:34p Subj: Re: Cd-rom Games Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey Brent, I thought about buying Wing Commander II dulxe but when I could not find it in the place I went to , I instead got 7TH GUEST, I think I made a good choice in buying 7th guest instaed of WIng Commander, and since I did that I cannot buy another game for a while, anyway I sure want to get Day of the Tentacle, about KIng's Quest, I got the CD-ROM version of King's Quest 5 and it took me 2 days to beat the whole game and I have the regular version of King's Quest 6 and it took me all of 2 weeks to beat the game so I will not buy the CD-ROM version of King's Quest 6, thanx for replying and write back, I need some messages to keep me busy. Ashwin *** WM v2.03/92-0157 * Origin: Hawk's Nest BBS Methuen, Ma. (508) 688-1979(1:324/123) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 1561 To: LOU PETRALIA Date: 08/22/93 10:37p Subj: Cd-rom Games Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey Lou, I don't think I will be able to get DAy of the TEntacle of a while since i just got 7th Guest and that costs me 59 bucks and my dad will not buy me another game for while. Anyway if and when I can convince my dad to get me another game, my choice will be Day of the TEnctacle, well write back and C-ya Ashwin *** WM v2.03/92-0157 * Origin: Hawk's Nest BBS Methuen, Ma. (508) 688-1979(1:324/123) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NICK FUNK Number: 1562 To: WEE YUNG Date: 08/23/93 6:34a Subj: Cdrom Forsale Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Aug 21 08:21>, Wee Yung of 1:102/138 writes: WY> CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$279. What can you tell me about this drive. Is this a good drive? I have a new MediaVision ProAudio Studio 16 sound board. Will this SCSI port work with this drive? Any information is greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!!1 *** msgedsq 2.1 * Origin: LaPlace, LA Point (1:396/61.4) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL KONOR Number: 1563 To: STEVE MCKAIN Date: 08/23/93 11:12a Subj: Re: Scsi Cdrom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >MK>Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00 > >Is this drive daisy chain able??? Yes! The external case has two 50 pin centronics which can be used for daisy chaining drives. 205-837-5053 *FSED91j* *** Star-Net v1.02 * Origin: Inferno_205.837.7715&3990_16.8KDual_3.9GB_ADS (1:373/8.0) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON KLANK Number: 1564 To: GERALD RYCKMAN Date: 08/22/93 10:14p Subj: Speedcache & Disc Caddies Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Gerald! Friday August 20 1993 06:56, Gerald Ryckman wrote to Eric Hsiao: > MCSDEX v3.02?!??! Wow...that is definitely new. The one that came with > my CDROM is only v2.1 and the one that came with MSDOS 6.0 is > (I believe) v2.21. Both of them do not support MSDOS 6.0 and I had to > use SETVER loaded in memory in order to do so. Finally, I had to hack > into the program in order to make it compatible with MSDOS 6.0 without > the need of using SETVER. Hmm...Funny thing. I use DOS6 and the MSCDEX that came with it...I also don't use SETVER....Works just fine... Jason *** GoldED 2.41 * Origin: The Fantasy Source BBS! 3.5GIG! 14.4K! 803-627-0549 (1:3639/7) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 1565 To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 08/22/93 7:09a Subj: Re: Walnut Creek Releases Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi! I have just installed a Pioneer 604X on my BBS and am looking for Cds will you please FAX me your latest catalog? You can FAX it to the number listed in the tag line. Thanks. :{) *** Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: EVERGREEN ONE, Cashmere Wa. ZyXEL E+ 19.2 (509) 782-4259 (1:344/91) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 1566 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/22/93 7:45a Subj: Cd's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Mike, ya got a magic name for the catalog? If not whats the file name? Thanks....... Jp :{) *** Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: EVERGREEN ONE, Cashmere Wa. ZyXEL E+ 19.2 (509) 782-4259 (1:344/91) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SAM JONES Number: 1567 To: ZORAN ANANIJEV Date: 08/23/93 11:32p Subj: Sb16asp+wblaster Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ZA> 2. How do you get the MT32 emulation to work on ZA> games that support them, the ZA> W/Blaster has the relevant .CBK files and I even ZA> load them manually before ZA> I get into a game still no go is there a driver or ZA> something I am missing out? All I do is run WBMODE MT.32 before playing a game that supports the MT-32 and it works ok. The games that I have used the MT-32 emulation for are Dune, Stunts, MPS World Circuit, Supaplex (sounds excellent), and Wheel Of Fortune w/ Vanna White. Do any of your games supporting General MIDI work (in other words, do any of your games in DOS work with the WaveBlaster)? There is no TSR required, the games have the MT-32 drivers included with them, they only need to "find" the WB and direct the MIDI output to it. Good Luck, Sam I am VERY pleased with my WB by the way! *** Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Southern Star - 6 Lines - HST/V32b - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 1568 To: BRIAN HIPPS Date: 08/23/93 7:08a Subj: Files.bbs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> incompatible with the software I'm running. The author of the softwar -> use the files.bbs format that is used in the Mega cd's. Is there any -> that use the mega type files.bbs? And why don't we have a standard fo -> files.bbs? One more question if I may what is the lastest version of FILES.BBS is the most abused word in this business.... Long ago, QuickBBS referred to their file listings as "FILES.BBS". This format contained the file name, beginning on column #1, and a 45 byte file description beginning on column #14. That's a FILES.BBS description file. Then someone came along & began sticking sizes and dates between the filename & description... The "FILES.BBS" word survived. This was no big deal, as most BBS packages that used FILES.BBS had to ability to filter out the time & date. Then someone came along & began calling PCBoard description files "FILES.BBS".... A PCBOARD description ain't even close to being "FILES.BBS". The reason most shareware CD ROMs contain PCBoard descriptions is that they can easily be created from the FILE_ID.DIZs now found within most archives. To edit a PCBoard description down to FILES.BBS costs money & takes time, if the descriptions are to be made meaningful and not "chopped off" at the 45th character. Shareware Studio contains FILES.BBS description files, as does the Mega series and a few others. Here's a FILES.BBS description file: FILES.BBS This description can be up to 45 bytes. 8LETTERS.ZIP This is another file description . . . tim FILES.BBS historian *** WM v3.00/92-0015 * Origin: The Liability BBS 404-491-1405 (1:133/515.0) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 1569 To: BRUCE BOWMAN Date: 08/23/93 7:01a Subj: Disk Needed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Does anyone know where I can get a CD-ROM with an environmental theme Yep, but it's about a month from completion - all original & BBS ready! tim *** WM v3.00/92-0015 * Origin: The Liability BBS 404-491-1405 (1:133/515.0) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CR HAMILTON Number: 1570 To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 08/23/93 9:42p Subj: Night Owl 9 $25 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Kevin Plummer wrote in a message to All: KP> N i g h t O w l 9 . 0 Does this have the files.bbs format for use on the bbs? CR *** timEd-B9 * Origin: Foundation BBS * FidoNet & AtariNet * 817-444-0155 (1:130/25) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIMOTHY ELLIS Number: 1571 To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 3:47p Subj: Illust. Encyc. Config File. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Greetings All. I am posting this message for a friend. He recently bought a second hand CD-ROM drive, and some bundled CD's. One of these was The Software Toolworks Illustrated Encyclopedia IBM version 2.0. The config.exe files is corrupted, and he is unable to get a replacement in Australia, as the suppliers do not have a copy of version 2 anymore. Can anyone help with a copy of the following file : Config.exe 88633 19-8-91 12.00:00pm If you can help, please netmail me details of how you can be contacted and I will pass the info on. Share and Enjoy, Timothy. *** FMail 0.92 * Origin: The Software Terminal BBS: Shopping & Messages (3:800/817) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANTONY WUTH Number: 1572 To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 08/22/93 1:23a Subj: Wanted: Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Marlin, 16 Aug 93 16:15, Marlin Rowley wrote to Antony Wuth: MR> Antony, MR> I use MCI's Cd Audio. I don't know what version of windows you have MR> but if you want my version, I am more than willing to give it to you. It all work's fine now. I got really really mad at windows, deteted it waited about an hour, Reinstalled it and it all worked. I think it was just a great microsoft mistery. seya Antony *** FMail 0.94 * Origin: Anto's Point! (3:620/250.7) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PHIL BURTON Number: 1573 To: STEPHEN RANSON Date: 08/23/93 2:11p Subj: Re: Cd-roms - Exlnt Prices Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ===> Overheard Rowan Evans say something to Stephen Ranson ===> about Cd-roms - Exlnt Prices. RE> Sorry, you can't tempt me! I can source several of the CD-ROMs you RE> mention (the ones I am interested in!) from other dealers cheaper! Hi Rowan, Would like to know where you are referring to, after checking out the US prices in this echo the Aussi ones are nothing short of depressing. (No input from anyone re the exchange rate, etc. I've been through all that and the US prices are still cheaper than ours.) Anyway, am interested in knowing where the best prices are so I can check 'em out. Cheers, ... Smash forehead on keyboard to continue..... *** GEcho 1.00 * Origin: BOP BBS - Canberra's Most Original +61-6-292-3832 (3:620/266.0) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEPHEN EATON Number: 1574 To: MICHAEL M Date: 08/22/93 8:18a Subj: Re: Cd-rom Problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No G'day Michael, SE> I'm using the Adaptec 1542 controller and all the associated MM> I had this problem, using a 1540. Removing the jumper MM> from the auto sense MM> disable (J6, pin 5) has cured it! I'll give it a go, thanks for that. I did think it was the 1542, but I'll give it a go. Thanks, Stephen *** Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Southern Realm (3:690/352) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SUNNY LEUNG Number: 1575 To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 11:19a Subj: Panasonic 562/563 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi everybody, I've got a SB 16ASP hooked up to the old SB Pro CD-ROM. I'm thinking of upgrading to the new Panasonic double speed drive. Does anyone in Australia supply this drive, and what would be the price? BTW, what's the difference between the 562 and 563? Another question <g> from me - has anyone got a Waveblaster? What's it like in terms of quality etc. ? There does not seem to be any software that supports it though ... Regards, Sunny. *** Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: (3:712/401) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SUNNY LEUNG Number: 1576 To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 11:24a Subj: Aus Creative Labs Bbs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi everybody, Is there a Creative Labs BBS in Australia. If so, what's the number? Regards, Sunny. ... I can't steer without my beer. *** Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: (3:712/401) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRENDAN FARTHING Number: 1577 To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 6:08p Subj: Aust. Phone Disc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Has anyone used the Australian Phone Book CD ? Also, does anyone know the difference between the one that sells for about $1500.00 (I think it's called Aus On Disc) and the one that sells for about $50.00 (This one is called Australian Phone Disk). The one that sells for $50 contains the entire Yellow and White Pages for every state in Australia. Why is there such a HUGE price difference between that disk and the $1500.00 one ?????? Anyone that knows please reply, Regards, Brendan Farthing. *** Ezycom V1.02 00f90022 * Origin: 500cc F1 BBS - 4 Gigs, 10 V32Bis Lines, 02-5504317 (3:712/218) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN CALLICRATE Number: 1578 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/23/93 11:24p Subj: EZ-SCSI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No If you're interested, I have EZ-SCSI disk & manual (both are originals) I'll let them go for $50.00 total, that includes I mail them to you. If someone wants it, call me at 503/623-4924. I would only accept payment of a money order. --- WM v3.01/93-0024 * Origin: Chemeketa Online BBS (503) 393-5580 (1:3406/15.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VID KID Number: 1579 To: MARTIN ROODENBURG Date: 08/23/93 3:47p Subj: Mitsumi CD-Rom drives Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No From what i heard there was a module available for the mitsumi that would enable you to connect a soundcard. But without that module it will not work with a soundcard. From all the information i have gathered over the last few months about the mitsumi. The modules between $50-70. I have only seen one place that had it available. But cant seem to remember where. Try contacting mitsumi and they might be able to tell you where to get it. Vidkid --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Rogue's Guild -Woodland Hills CA- (818) 347-4291 (1:102/812) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VID KID Number: 1580 To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/23/93 3:50p Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boris on the DRM 604X when you say bare. Do you mean without cables & software? I have seen a few places offering the same but they include the cables and software. What Scsi II controllers are available for that drive that come with the drivers for it? Last of all what is the name of your company? --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Rogue's Guild -Woodland Hills CA- (818) 347-4291 (1:102/812) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1581 To: STEVE GERWECK Date: 08/24/93 12:01a Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SG> DC> * Busty Babes......29.95 SG> SG> Can you match Mike Shannon's offer of $29 PPD?? SG> BM> Oh, come on! For 95 cents, you have sysops all over the world carrying SG> BM> a post showing your unwillingness to do your business on your own SG> BM> dime? If a vendor does a good job, 95 cents is nothing. Give us all a SG> BM> break and do your ordering in another manner. SG>Give me a break! You forget the $4 or $5 for shipping. Steve, Why not just order it from us and save yourself the aggravation? We have an 800 number, and we ship 2-day mail from within the U.S. Taking the *other* route, an order from Canada could take anywhere from 3 days to 2 weeks, plus the shipping would probably be a little higher. Interested, call 1-800-767-1284 and it will ship out the same day. $29 ppd. No surcharge for plastic. No hassles. Later, .\\ike STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5 --- * SLMR 2.1a * Tagline thievery . . . On the next Geraldo! --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1582 To: PADDY DRURY Date: 08/24/93 12:01a Subj: tag line ??? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No PD> MS> * SLMR 2.1a * If it's British, it leaks. PD>As a Brit I am not to impressed with the the tag line PD>( UNLESS you are talking about our fine line in PD>watering cans < grin > No Paddy, it was directed more in the area of your fine British autos, one of which I own. <g> Actually the ol' Lotus isn't too bad for leaks, but I've seen some MG's and Jags that have created oil slicks on par with the Exxon Valdez. 8) All part of the fun I guess. PD>On another point what sort of a deal could you do me for sending over PD>a bundle of CD's PD>Say 5 copies of ten tiles for a test run I can give you excellent prices in quantity. Call me sometime at 509-457-2892 and we can talk further! Have around 325 titles in stock right now, so there are many titles to choose from in all categories. Later, .\\ike STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5 --- * SLMR 2.1a * E-Mailing frequencies are open Captain. --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1583 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 12:01a Subj: CD-ROM LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No STARVECTOR CD-ROM LIQUIDATION SPECIALS! Q & A 4.0...........$34 Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15 House of Games......$20 Compton's Interact..$95 US Wars: Korea......$29 US Wars: Des. Storm.$29 Super CD 2..........$15 Super CD 1..........$14 Programmers Megapak.$29 Canadian Shareware..$19 MAC Shareware.......$22 Clipart Heaven......$19 5Star Prem. Windows.$27 Otherware I.........$17 Jedi Collection.....$39 History of Jazz.....$45 Hacker Chronicles...$24 Reel Clips..........$35 Kodak Photo CD......$18 Phoenix 3.0.........$12 Game Arena..........$10 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5 --- * SLMR 2.1a * The magic of Windoze: Turning a 486 into an XT. --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1584 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 12:01a Subj: NEW CD'S @ STARVECTOR! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BRAND NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR! Soundware Coll'ctn..$27 So Much Shareware 3.$28 QRZ Ham Radio.......$19 Hobbes OS/2 1993....$16 Hamware 1993........$28 Game Arena..........$13 Eagle Eye Shareware.$25 Up All Night........$17 Precision Mapping...$88 Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$29 Electronic Cookbook.$33 Learning Adventure..$13 M/M Computer Tutor..$24 Sound F/X Library...$19 Cookbook Heaven.....$27 Int'l Graphics Libr.$33 Musical Instruments.$57 The Holy Bible......$24 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5 --- * SLMR 2.1a * ...Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball... --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1585 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 12:01a Subj: D/L OR FREQ OUR CATALOG! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *************************************************************************** FREQ OR DOWNLOAD STARVECTOR'S CURRENT CATALOG W/ 300+ CD-ROM TITLES! *************************************************************************** To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 300+ CD-ROM titles that we stock, you may either download our catalog file from our BBS, or Freq (file request) it. (CD descriptions + prices included) BBS: 509-457-0206 - Download STARCAT.ZIP from <F>ile menu. (1st call) FREQ: 1:3407/101 - File request STARCAT.ZIP --- * SLMR 2.1a * E-Mailing frequencies are open Captain. --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRANDON RICKERSON Number: 1586 To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/24/93 1:38p Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I also want to get the CD version of the Wing Commander series. I have both of the Wing Commander games on CD. Its great but I really don't have a fast CD-ROM drive but its still great. Live long and prosper! => -=< Roger Wilco >=- --- FastEcho 1.25 * Origin: Thin Ice - Your traveling on very Thin Ice (1:160/9) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1587 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/23/93 4:36p Subj: * X-RATED CD-ROM * Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > JR> Is there any X-Rated CD-ROM with animals ? -> -> > Isn't that aginst the law in some states? the laws -> > for sodomy being what they are. -> -> That's Beastiality, not Sodomy - but you are correct otherwise.... You people are SICK!!! Can you not find something intelligent to talk about other than this GARBAGE!!!! HELP! Moderator!!! * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377 --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0051] * Origin: This Old House * D.S. 16.8 * Tacoma Wa (1:138/173) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1588 To: BRUCE BOWMAN Date: 08/23/93 4:38p Subj: Disk needed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Does anyone know where I can get a CD-ROM with an environmental theme Sure do! Check out Eco Quest I and II from Sierra On-Line. 1-800-757-7707. * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377 --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0051] * Origin: This Old House * D.S. 16.8 * Tacoma Wa (1:138/173) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1589 To: RACHEL REPSTAD Date: 08/23/93 4:42p Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I have at least 32 sierra/dynamix games. I love the King's Quest seri -> King's Quest III would be my favorite. I have beaten all but King's Q -> would have beaten that too but the packed file is corrupt in my disks -> get it from someone else though. I also have every space quest game e -> V. Space Quest III would probably be my favorite in that series. I al -> Willy Beamish and have beaten that too. I really like Conquests of Ca -> Have you played that? There are a few arcade sections where you have -> fight and you joust with the black knight. I also like the eco-quest -> The rainforest one is really cool. It is so awesome! You can't die in -> discovery series games! There are a few games that I really need to h -> Freddy Pharkas and conquests of the longbow. I also want Leisure Suit -> Do you have any of these games? I really like KQ3 too! KQ5 is really nice if you have a sound card. The entire Space Quest series is my favorite. (except 2, that one is too hard I think). I have Willy Beamish too, want CD version. Also have laura Bow 2, great game it is. I have Space Quest 5, and man is it funny! Short, but funny! Do you know if there is a CD version of SQ5? I also have Red Baron and Aces of the Pacific. * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377 --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0051] * Origin: This Old House * D.S. 16.8 * Tacoma Wa (1:138/173) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1590 To: RAY DYER Date: 08/23/93 4:44p Subj: BBS Shareware CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I bought a Mitsumi drive for $240can and enjoy it. Nice drive, but po -> correction for the smallest scratch you can't feel, and can only see -> barely with certain light conditions. -> (Must be due to the physical handeling of them) That's weird. I have discs with all kinds of scratches and they play just fine! Mitsumi 16bit cont. * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377 --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0051] * Origin: This Old House * D.S. 16.8 * Tacoma Wa (1:138/173) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARLIN ROWLEY Number: 1591 To: ANDREW SEE Date: 08/24/93 10:22a Subj: Explain Sound Cards to me Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I found this information in the PC Magazine. It says it does 12-bit playback and 16-bit recording. --- * Origin: PowerLine 315-865-4070 Marcy NY (1:2609/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 1592 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 2:37a Subj: Maximus & Downloading Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I'm having a bit of trouble when downloading a file from the disc at 1200bps (that's what's in the notebook, I haven't watched other users yet so I don't know about faster speeds). Every 16K, *exactly*, Maximus reports "Unable to read drive F" (the rom). When I'm running FrontDoor/Maximus alone, the file transmission stops at 16384 bytes, *WITHOUT ERROR* (although obviously the entire file isn't there). Attempting to resume under Zmodem results in a new copy which terminates at the same place. When I'm running FrontDoor/Maximus under a DV window (XDV actually, loading DV high), at every 16K (exactly) there is an error visible at the sysop end, but the drive apparently recovers and the DL continues. At the user end nothing is noticed to be wrong. This happens only when DLing from the disc. DL from the harddrive works fine, copying from the disc to the HD and DLing works fine too. The disc is intact, the drive works fine, etc. My CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT should be in the next message. Thanks for your help. --- * Origin: The Airtight Garage, San Francisco, Cal. 415-641-0348 (1:125/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 1593 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 2:38a Subj: MAX & DL, Supplemental Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Here is my CONFIG.SYS: DEVICE=C:\QEMM386.SYS NOSH RAM DEVICE=SSTORDRV.SYS /NOHIGH DEVICE=D:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:3 C:\BOOT\NJRAMDXP.SYS /P90 LASTDRIVE=K SHELL=C:\COMMAND.COM C:\ /E:256 /P BUFFERS=1 FILES=40 FCBS=1 STACKS 0,0 DEVICE=C:\BOOT\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:310 /A:0 REM DEVICE=C:\BOOT\MTMCDE.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:310 /A:0 /M:20 /I:10 /X Here is my AUTOEXEC.BAT: @echo off d:\qemm\loadhi /r:1 d:\qemm\BUFFERS=30 d:\qemm\loadhi /r:2 c:\dos\share rem d:\qemm\loadhi /r:3 c:\dos\doskey d:\qemm\loadhi /r:1 c:\boot\ksmus20/1 rem c:\loadhi /r:2 c:\mscdex.exe /d:mscd001 /m:10 /v /e d:\qemm\loadhi /r:2 d:\star\util\vmode monitor d:\qemm\loadhi /r:2 d:\star\util\vmode vesa c:\boot\mscdex.exe /d:mscd001 /m:10 /v /e SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 T4 SET SOUND=D:\SBPRO d:\sbpro\sbp-set /m:12 /voc:12 /cd:12 /fm:12 /line:12 PATH = c:\;C:\DOS;C:\BATCH;C:\FD;C:\UTIL;C:\ADDSTOR;C:\MAX;d:\pctools prompt $p$g set dv=d:\dv set fd=c:\fd set golded=c:\fd\ged SET PCTOOLS=D:\PCTOOLS set squish=c:\fd\squish SET TEMP=e:\ c: f.bat [F.BAT runs Front Door. XDV (DESQview) works better usually.] --- * Origin: Airtight Garage 415-641-0348 San Francisco California US (1:125/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 1594 To: TONY STOTT Date: 08/23/93 10:47p Subj: Re: Cd-rom Games Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TS>DS>Try Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?, espically if you have a TS>DS>sound card hooked up. TS>You should hear it with a Soundblaster Pro (for sound Fx) and a Sound TS>Canvas (for music)! What a combination! Awesome! You're using two soundcards in the same machine at the same time and the game knows which output goes where? * SLMR 2.1 * Too many laws, not enough freedom. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Airtight Garage, San Francisco, Cal. 415-641-0348 (1:125/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1595 To: JOHN PRITCHARD Date: 08/23/93 7:55p Subj: H E L P ANYONE!!!?!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > How good is the SB16/TEXEL combination? Since they do NOT work together, the combination is NOT a good one. > Which is more stable SB16 or PAS16? Both appear to be "stable", but the PAS16 will work with a LOT more CD-ROM drives than the SB16 ever THOUGHT about working with.... * SLMR 2.1a * People don't own Cats, Cats own People! --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1596 To: DAVID MCSPADDEN Date: 08/23/93 10:42p Subj: CD-ROMS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I keep forgeting to add that my BBS runs on a U.S.R. Sportster. The >CDWORLD.zip file is around 9000 kb so it only takes a couple of seconds to >download..... Impressive compression? 8-) * SLMR 2.1a * Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1597 To: TODD PRUSKI Date: 08/23/93 10:46p Subj: MPC COMPLIANT? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >have also recommended against getting the radio shack (mitsuba?) piece of junk. > Although, recently they have started making (mysteriously) 390ms CD-ROM >drives, and at the same price as the 1 second older version. Radio Shack CD-ROM drives were NEVER made by Radio Shack - the actual drives were standard Mitsumi 600ms models with a RS designed interface card. I would BET that their "390 ms" drives are the CURRENT Mitsumi LU005s in yet another OEM version.... * SLMR 2.1a * TRIBBLE.DAT = * TRIBBLE.ZIP = , TRIBBLE.ARJ = . --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SAM JONES Number: 1598 To: MICHAEL GEGGUS Date: 08/24/93 11:37p Subj: Re: 562-b Driver Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thanks alot for the advice as I finally got this little problem ironed out. The driver that came with my drive was a few months old (actually older than the drive itself by 3 months. The older driver would "stop" the music coming thru the SB16/WaveBlaster when the CD was acccessed and the newer version of SBCD.SYS fixes this bug and everything is now ok, and I am REALLY glad that I bought the drive as it is very fast (especialy for the $$$). Later, Sam --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Node III BBS New Orleans LA (504) 347-4320 (1:396/27) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG DAGGER Number: 1599 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 8:25a Subj: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I'm new to CD-ROM's and was wondering what kind I should get. I'm only 15 and on a limited budget. If anyone has info on any CD-ROM which would be under say $700, and has the best sound and graphics for that price, please tell me. --- QuickBBS 2.80 (Gamma-2) * Origin: The Northeast File Bank * (717)876-0152 *USR-DS* (1:268/302) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE PESANT Number: 1600 To: DON RIEB Date: 08/23/93 9:10p Subj: Thanks Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi there Don Well I would just like to thank-you for the quick response...and for sending me your price list...Thanks. -=Cheers=- Steve. *** Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID BURKE Number: 1601 To: BOB JACKSON Date: 08/23/93 10:21p Subj: Thanks Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Not being a sysop, I don't know how echos are started/stopped. Your -> suggestions are good ones, IMHO. Someone had suggested an adult -> CD-ROM but I haven't seen any traffic about it lately. Well, the idea is Bob or some moderator, (people who like extra work, hehehe) will pick up on the idea and start or restructure the CD echos on FIDO now. -=- Dave *** WM v3.01/91-0177 * Origin: CCAT BBS -=- ZyXEL 19,200 & HST,v32b (512)242-2206 (1:160/225.0) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM CLEMENTS Number: 1602 To: BOB JENKINS Date: 08/23/93 1:35p Subj: Buying From The U.s. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BJ> Hello. I am a new CD-rom owner,interested in purchasing from the U.S. Up BJ>here in Canada, the prices are...well...scary! I would like to know what is BJ>involved ie. customs/duty etc. Thank You. No duty (computer-related item), but there is GST at the border and quite possibly a broker's fee depending on how it is shipped. UPS and other such services usually will have someone call you (usually from Windsor for items destined for Ontario) and ask if you have your own broker or would like them to handle it for you. Fee varies with amount, I believe. It should be considered when figuring out the actual price of the item. And it is better if you can have it sent to someone in the States and pick it up -- you save that brokerage fee, a percentage of the shipping fee if there is one, and depending on your stay outside the country, could eliminate the need to declare. Be aware, though, that buying in the States has its problems. The biggest is that U.S. warranties are usually only good in the U.S. That means you normally can't take a Brand X item to a Brand X dealer in Canada and get it repaired if something goes flooey. It has to be returned to the U.S. and that can create more border concerns/costs if you don't have the paperwork for customs done in advance. And of course when you add the almost 30 per cent due to the current exchange rate, the shipping fees (often higher for Canada), GST on the full amount in Canadian dollars, you may not save as much as might think. If you have to send it back to the States just once for warranty repair, you could easily blow whatever you might save. Happy hunting. Cheers! *** * DeLuxe* 1.12 #4703 * *** FidoPCB v1.4 beta * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 1603 To: ERIC HO Date: 08/23/93 9:32a Subj: Re: Dr. Cd-rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No . Eric - In reference to Dr. Windows, Dr. Music, and Dr. Shareware: Country Fair Software would be interested in handling all three of your discs, but would need to talk to you about dealer pricing first. You neglected to post a voice phone number in your ad. - Arnie :+} *** GoldED 2.40 * Origin: Country Fair Support BBS (1:141/1020.5) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 1604 To: CHRIS CLEMSON Date: 08/23/93 9:27a Subj: Re: Font Cd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Chris - AG> CD-ROMS for sale - $18.00 each (incl. shipping) AG> FontMaster CD Library - High quality fonts (NOT shareware) CC> Hi, What types of fonts are these? If TrueType I would be CC> interested. Would $18 include shipping to the UK? These are bit-mapped files (not TT). Shipping to the UK would be an additional $3.00 - Arnie :+} *** GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Magnificent MIDI Machine (1:141/1020.5) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 1605 To: TRAVIS CAMPBELL Date: 08/23/93 10:43a Subj: Kings Quest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No 21 Aug 93 02:40, Travis Campbell wrote to Carlos Benitz: TC>> have the hardriver version of KQ6! So whats different in the cd-rom TC>> version? CB>> I didn't get any manuals with my cdrom version. TC> Did you call Sierra Online & get some manuals? Not yet. It's just sitting in my drawer, still in its shrinkwrap. I bought it at a swap meet, and later it occurred to me that it's probably a used game that someone shrinkwrapped, so I'm hosed. Sometime when I get extra time, I'll open it up and look at the install/readme's. (The thing I bought is a shrink wrapped jewl case.) I suppose I need manuals to work it? *** * Origin: Airtight Garage 415-641-0348 San Francisco California US (1:125/17) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 1606 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/23/93 10:47a Subj: Shareware And Cds Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No 20 Aug 93 13:27, Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Carlos Benitz: >> FF> I think it will only be a matter of time before ""CD of the month" >> FF> clubs start and everybody will get a nice new CD in the mailbox each >> FF> month. >> Were there "Disk of the mnth" clubs 10 years ago? BF> CBS CD Club has been around appx. 10 years, not sure about the BMG DisK, floppy of the month clubs. I was attempting to point out that this is a fairly new technology, not well intrenched in the average home. While we're getting closer, I wouldn't expect a successful mass-market disc of the month club for about 6-18 more months. Nothing big for probably 2 years. While the readers of this echo may almost all have cdrom drives, by no means do most computers. People without computers have no need for a cdrom drive. Unlike audio cd's which could attach to almost any stereo, cdroms apply to a smaller market right now. *** * Origin: Airtight Garage 415-641-0348 San Francisco California US (1:125/17) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON KULHA Number: 1607 To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/22/93 11:13p Subj: Pas16 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LG> I would agree with you about the PAS-16XL but as for buying the LG> toshiba 3401b I wouldn't even consider it its overpriced. The panasonic LG> 562b is 320ms not 350ms it can transfer 300kb/sec on the sb 16 card LG> using cdpseed (microsoft's cdrom benchmark) someone else out there was LG> saying that the benchmark tests with the pas 16+ 3401b were very poor LG> less than the required 300kb/sec level and why pay twice as much for a LG> toshiba when its the same in transfer speed. If the 562B did not exist LG> these past two months I'd definately buy a toshiba rather than a mitsumi LG> but now that the 562b panasonic is here to take over toshiba,nec,sony in LG> the over priced market you can't justify getting the same features and LG> paying twice as much when i can get 2 panasonics for the price of 1 Get real Louis. I think the Panasonic double speed at it's price is a good deal but "the same features"? Not even close. You're comparing a 200 millisecond drive to a 320ms, a 256k internal cache to 64k, SCSI to proprietary interface, a caddy drive to caddyless, forgetting the self cleaning optics, extra dust door, etc. The Panasonic is a consumer drive designed with compromises to make a price point versus a serious no compromise state of the art drive. They both have their place but the Panasonic doesn't stack up evenly with the Tosh by a long shot. DCK *** Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Sonoma Online (1:125/7) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1608 To: KEITH HALL Date: 08/24/93 3:07a Subj: Re: Worm's Vs. Cd-roms Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> If I purchase a panasonic worm or other manufactures worm can >> I use the same cd in my cd-rom? NO, as a worm drives media is not only diffrent than a normal cd, but is diffrent in the way it writes to it's media as well. A worm drive is nothing more than a large tape backup unit, so to speak. Although, there are other usages for it, you will be unable to use the media from the worm drive in the manner you expressed above. Hope this helps... Boris Osadciw ... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same! *** FMail 0.96* * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1609 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 3:07a Subj: Limited Supply Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% NEC'S 73's & 83's %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% 280ms access time - 150kps tarnsfer rate - Novell, OS/2 and Windows Compatiable - Caddy System - Dasiy Chainable SCSI & SCSI 2 Support. Refurbished - 90 day warranty Limited Supply - External Price - $249. Internal Price - $225. Purchase any current Shareware CD for $15. additional with drive! ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759 Boris Osadciw ... Silver Xpress....... Not Just Another Off-Line Mail System <tm>! *** FMail 0.96* * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES MUNRO Number: 1610 To: ALL Date: 08/21/93 1:45p Subj: Sony driver for OS2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Does any one know where I could get a driver for my SONY CDU535 series. To enable me to run it with OS2 ver. 2.1. Ihave to reboot dos all the time right now to run my CD. thanks anyone who can help jm --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: Electric Blue BBS Node 1 Niagara Falls, Can. (416)35 (1:247/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM CLEMENTS Number: 1611 To: DAVID BURKE Date: 08/24/93 6:47a Subj: THE *GOOD* OLD DAYS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> DB> I think there should be a HARDWARE ONLY CDROM echo -> DB> SOFTWARE ONLY CDROM echo DB> Sometimes I am looking for help on software, or for new and DB>interesting CD titles, at other time I might need to know about, DB>how to run several CD drive under DESQview or OS/2. I would even DB>go one more and say an ADULT ONLY CDROM echo. I don't mind the traffic, DB>but I don't have time to pick through 100s of messages to pick out the DB>one on hardware or new titles etc. DB> I understand at one time CDs were a neat new item few had, but they DB>are getting as common as hard drives. Just a thought ;-) Lordy, it's nice to see comments like this! I started reading cdrom threads fairly early -- when 10 or 20 messages A WEEK was a busy conference. Back then we were talking about getting All About Cows, not because it was a good disc but because it was *available* and there was darn little else out there under $300. I also remember one of my first stories about cdrom where a major distributor was *predicting* drives under $500 and discs under $100. People were going on about caddies -- buy one for each disc because after all, you won't have that many discs. Not at those prices. And I was a lone voice saying: "Hey, when they start selling in K-Mart....." Haven't seen them in a K-Mart yet, but in lots of other general merchandise department stores, so K-Mart can't be too far away. And now, with well over 100 discs (many of them well under $100 each) I'm glad I didn't have to buy caddies for every of them. And now people are wondering about the number of new conferences that should be created because cdrom has grown so popular! Now they want about as many conferences as there were messages in the *old* days (3-4 years ago). That's great! And it is going to get better. Cheers all! --- * DeLuxe* 1.12 #4703 * --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1612 To: CHRIS ROBINSON Date: 08/24/93 2:19p Subj: 16 bit sound card Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> quality is the same. I just want the flexibility of SCSI as Panasonic -> is not the only double-speed drives around. There's plenty of -> software They may not be the only dual speed drives around but they are the cheapest. -> Trackblaster Pro, Pro Mixer,etc.). I don't think either of us are -> going to be disappointed in any way thanks to MediaVision and -> Creative Labs strong hold in sound. -> -> Have fun and make noise ....... CR Even the PAS16 is the same thing I've had a sound blaster before the sb16 I've always stuck with creative labs maybe because their sound is the real thing and not some other copy cat copying creative labs but in a sense it helped lowered the sound cards quite a bit. Louis --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM CLEMENTS Number: 1613 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 3:31p Subj: PIONEER CD-ROM HELP ??? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Two questions for Pioneer 600/604X users: 1. Is there any way to get the drive to play all audio discs in the cartridge instead of just one, then having to go back to it to program for the next? 2. What is the best way, when using Windows discs, to have five in a cartridge and still have the drive know which tray to go to. It seems now I have to keep putting the disc in the D: or top tray. As you can tell, I'm relatively new to Pioneer and any help would be appreciated. Cheers --- * DeLuxe* 1.12 #4703 * --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MANESH RAMA Number: 1614 To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 11:40a Subj: encyclopedia's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No hey, i wuz wondering if anyone can get me a cheap encylcopedia cd for about under $50 or how bout a trade. for somthing thanx later im desperate i need one. i kinda' gave mine away. oh and how good is a groliers encylcopedia --- GOMail v1.2 [DEMO] 09-15-93 * Origin: Prime Connection - (909)274-9635 USR/DS (1:207/225) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 1615 To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 08/24/93 12:08a Subj: CD Rom Requirements Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Rob Perelman wrote +-------------------------------+ XXXNow I plan to run OS/2 v2.1 on this system and I am thinking about a XXXCD-Rom drive and maybe even a sound card. Now my question is, what kind XXXof CD-Rom drive and adaptors do I need to get to be compatible with my XXXIDE hard drive and OS/2? Please help me A.S.A.P. Thanks! +-------------------------------+ I can't say exactly what Os/2 requires for CD drives. However, any good drive will use a SCSI adaptor. None that I know of interface with an IDE controller card. If you want to do anything related to multimedia applications, a sound card is a must. I'd recomend getting the Pro Audio Spectrum 16, which has its own on board SCSI adaptor. This will save you a slot in your machine since both the sound board and SCSI adaptor will be on the same card. For CD-ROM drives, the multispin drives are a neccesity. I own the NEC CDR-84 which is fantastic. Texel and Toshiba both make multispin drives which are equally good. ___ X LonMail X "Please Captain, not in front of the Klingons" ___ X SLMR 2.1a X --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Hub Killingworth, CT 14.4 HST (1:141/110) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN TULLY Number: 1616 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 9:38a Subj: Busty Ver. 1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have a copy of Busty Babes Version 1.0 for sale to the Highest bidder. You can call me Voice at 203-387-3174, Fax at 203-387-3306 or BBS at 203-387-3289. Ken... I forgot to mention.. This is an autographed copy with Lee and Blaines signature. I have been offered $250. for it so far and will be selling soon, so if anyone is interested let me know soon, or you will loose out.. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: KL Systems /Your CD Source (1:141/815) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ELDON WAKEFIELD Number: 1617 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 7:53p Subj: CD-ROMS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Have a question for anyone I have 4 Sony 535 cd-drives on my BBS this past week end some wierd stuff stated to happen can put a cd in one of the drives the light comes on when it goes out it will eject the cd can take another on and it works the one that didnt work woul work in another drive all was working ok Thanks in Advance Eldon --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: The Country Store - Columbus, Ga. (1:3613/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANA KIRKSEY Number: 1618 To: ERIC HSIAO Date: 08/24/93 8:45p Subj: Re: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No EH>I've seen a PAS-16/Toshiba 3401B combo advertised for $599 -- EH>considerably cheaper than the numbers you started (>$1000). EH>Then there's also the Fusion 16 Double Speed CD-ROM version for EH>around the same price which has a NEC drive and a few CDs too. EH> - Eric They have the PAS-16/Toshiba combo with hook-up kit for $549.-- at CD-Rom Direct.1-800-332-2404. Diana === * OLX 2.1 TD * Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: *The Beemer Board* Manteca CA 1-209-823-0854 USR DS 16.8 (1:208/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANA KIRKSEY Number: 1619 To: SHAUN RADER Date: 08/24/93 8:45p Subj: 7th guest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SR>Yeah, I know what you mean.. but I would expect the S3 to do OKAY with SR>The 7th Guest because it's in SVGA mode and so is Windows (I guess they SR>are two COMPLETELY different video modes). I mean.. 2% is pretty sad! SR>It's still better then the 1% I used to get with my Trident. I wonder SR>if I had a SpeedStar 24x (which is what I originally wanted).. if I SR>would get 100%. Eeks! You only got 1% with your Trident Video Card?! I guess I'd better stop complaining about getting 40% with my Trident 8900 Video Card. Diana === * OLX 2.1 TD * Press "+" to see another tagline. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: *The Beemer Board* Manteca CA 1-209-823-0854 USR DS 16.8 (1:208/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANA KIRKSEY Number: 1620 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 8:45p Subj: Cd-rom catalogs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello! I have seen various message's offering free CD-Rom catalogs.Please send any CD-Rom Catalogs to my following address: Diana Kirksey 1624 Hwy.99 Sp#79 Manteca,CA. 95336 Thank You, Diana === * OLX 2.1 TD * Hello, I am part number --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: *The Beemer Board* Manteca CA 1-209-823-0854 USR DS 16.8 (1:208/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SCOTT VANZANDT Number: 1621 To: LON SEIDMAN Date: 08/24/93 12:37p Subj: NEC CD-Rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Be sure to check the speed of the drive, the Fusion 16 kits around here still have 800+ms drives in them. I would stay away from those. Scott --- WM v2.05 [Eval]/92-4620 * Origin: The Blue Light Special BBS (901) 385-8621 (1:123/32) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRUCE BERRY Number: 1622 To: VID KID Date: 08/25/93 6:35a Subj: Mitsumi CD-Rom drives Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No VK> From what i heard there was a module available for the mitsumi >that would enable you to connect a soundcard. But without that module it >will not work with a soundcard. From all the information i have gathered ove >the last few months about the mitsumi. The modules between $50-70. I have >only seen one place that had it available. But cant seem to remember where. > Try contacting mitsumi and they might be able to tell you where to get it. I have a Mitsumi, it has a connector on the interface board to connect to a sound board. All you need is the board and cable! I haven't hooked a sound board up yet, but from the DOCS, that's all you need! ■ QMPro 1.50 41-4879 ■ Dogs come when you call. Cats have answering machines. --- WM v3.00/93-0876 * Origin: Spinnaker BBS, 809-775-5073 Fidonet 1:18/24 ZyXEL (1:18/24.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN SANDERSE Number: 1623 To: KEITH HALL Date: 08/24/93 12:18a Subj: Worm's vs. cd-roms Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No W.O.R.M. CD drives conform to the Orange Book Part 2 compact disc standard. A CD is 4.72". A Panasonic W.O.R.M. uses 5 1/4" discs and as such is not compatible. CD Recordable drives are made by Sony, Philips, Ricoh, JVC, Pinnacle and others. See the August issue of New Media magazine for more information. If you're calling from Western Canada call Glenn at Compact Data Inc. (403) 269-2353 (code 909). ___ This copy of Freddie 1.2.5 is being evaluated. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Student Exchange, Calgary, CANADA 403-283-5261 HST-DS (1:134/49) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WEE YUNG Number: 1624 To: MICHEL ROMY Date: 08/22/93 8:22a Subj: Panasonic 562b Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MR>Can anyone give me the spec. of the Panasonic 562B CD-Rom MR>drive ? is it internal or external ? transfer rate, ... MR>And if it is internal, does an external version exist ? price ? It is internal drive, multisession and kodak Photo CD compatible. CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$279. MIDI cable for any sound card with Joystick port...............$19. Price does not included shipping. Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC 16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra * OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240 --- Maximus 2.00 * Origin: Long_Island RB (310) 370-4113 VAX EC (HST 16.8K/V32b) (1:102/138) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 1625 To: DONATO RABAGO Date: 08/24/93 10:51a Subj: CDS? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I sell a complete line of adult CD-Roms and I can ship them to you in Mexico. Leave me a message or send me your mailing address and I'll send you a complete catalog. I have real cheap prices. Also, my company manufactures several adult titles, so thay are really inexpensive. Examples: Visual Fantasies $19.85 Moving Fantasies $19.85 Things Change: My First Time (This is a 2-disc Full-Motion-Video XXX-Rated) It's a movie for the computer and it runs FULL SCREEN. $49.95. Let me know if you are interested. Thanks, Neil Bergman 1206 S. Holt Ave. #1 Los Angeles, California 90035 Voice: 310 652-2858 Fax: 310 652-2608 * RM 1.0 * Eval Day 7 * RoboMail -- The ultimate QWK compatible message manag --- GOMail v1.2 [DEMO] 09-18-93 * Origin: Origin Line Not Defined In GOEDIT (1:102/523) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SHAUN RADER Number: 1626 To: DUANE ELLISON Date: 08/24/93 2:42p Subj: Cd-rom bundles Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No <<***** DUANE ELLISON wrote this on 08-22─93 {May be edited} *****>> ─>My wife and I have recently been looking into purchasing a CD-Rom, Sou ─>Card, and software bundle such as the Fusion CD 16. I was curious wha ─>people think of these bundles and of the hardware included in the ─>bundles. Basically I would like to know the luck you have had in usin ─>your new CD-Rom. I would like to purchase one of the systems that is ─>around the $500 that includes a Sound Card, CD-Rom drive, and a good ─>selection of software. ─> ─>Thanks in advance for any information, anything would help! ─> ─>Oh, the main reason we were looking into the Fusion CD package was ─>because of the Compton Encyclopedia. From what I've seen.. the bundles are definitely the way to go (I have the CD-ROM upgrade kit from Creative Labs). You just buy one thing, you know they are all compatible with each other, it comes with software, and it's usually cheaper then if you bought them separately. If you want the CD drive just for the Encyclopedia, I say go for it.. but if you want to use games, and you don't mind spending more money, I'd look into the Fusion DoubleCD 16. I don't even know if this package is out yet. It comes with PAS-16, a double speed CD-ROM drive, speakers, Battle Chess Enhanced, Comptons Encyclopedia for Windows, The 7th Guest, and Arthur's Teacher Trouble (for kids). -Shaun Rader- -Madman@Liberty.Com- 08/24/93 09:20 --- * CmpQwk 1.13 #141 * "Junior, quit playing with your floppy!" --- DB 1.39/004485 * Origin: The Diamond Bar BBS - 909-923-1031 - Ontario, CA (1:218/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID M. WHITE Number: 1627 To: LON SEIDMAN Date: 08/24/93 9:31a Subj: NEC CD-Rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LS> If the included drive is an NEC multispin, then you LS> shouldn't have any LS> problems whatsoever. I've owned the NEC CDR-84 internal for LS> over a year Thanks for the information, I have since found out that the drive is an 800ms drive which is not Kodak ready so have decided against it. Thanks for the general info regarding NEC though, I will keep it in mind. --- GEcho 1.00/beta+ * Origin: Old Pueblo BBS - Tucson Computer Society 602-744-2314 (1:300/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID M. WHITE Number: 1628 To: DUANE ELLISON Date: 08/24/93 9:43a Subj: CD-ROM BUNDLES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DE> Card, and software bundle such as the Fusion CD 16. I was DE> curious what DE> people think of these bundles and of the hardware included I was also looking at the Fusion 16 package, however I found out it is an 800ms drive that is not Kodak ready so have decided against it. If you have a "Software Etc." store near you, they have that package priced at $399. --- GEcho 1.00/beta+ * Origin: Old Pueblo BBS - Tucson Computer Society 602-744-2314 (1:300/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC HSIAO Number: 1629 To: JOHN ROBERTSON Date: 08/24/93 9:18p Subj: Speedcache & disc caddies Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The caddies I have is clear above the circular part of the disc and opaque on the outer corners. The bottom of the caddy says Made in the USA, so it's not some cheap Taiwanese copy...overall the caddy looks pretty well made, and I don't think my CD-ROM drive will have any problems with them. The $10 price for a caddy is totally unjustified... I still say go to a computer show and buy them for $4-$5 each. - Eric --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: deltaComm Online - The Telix Support BBS! (1:151/107) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALASTAIR EDGINGTON Number: 1630 To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 12:03a Subj: OS/2 and SoundBlaster Pro 2.0 CD-ROM Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hiya, I've got OS/2 2.1, MultiMedia Program Manager with SoundBlaster Pro set up and working fine, but i can't get the SoundBlaster CD-ROM working!! I've tried inserting soundblaster's sbpcd.sys (or whateva it's called) in os/2's config.sys. This works fine, and the CD is accessed and all is fine. I just can't figure out where to get the cd-rom extensions driver from!! mscdex won't work. it comes up with incorrect dos version. If anyone has any ideas, i'd love to here them!! Regards, Alastair Edgington --- Ezycom V1.02 * Origin: The Web BBS, Mitcham +61-3-872-5574 (3:634/391.7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY STOTT Number: 1631 To: MARTIN TAYLOR Date: 08/24/93 8:07a Subj: Buying From Australia Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 08-18-93, Martin Taylor elucidated to Terry Wood: MT>Hi Terry. MT> MT>> Right, Well my name is Terry Wood and I'm from that little forgotten MT>> country of Australia!! I have posted a few people about getting CDR MT>> discs from the states but as of yet not 1 reply :-(.... MT>I wonder if this is normal business practice in the US or just this MT>particular person's attitude. MT> MT>I was going to order CDs from him, but after working out the exchange MT>rate and the cost of shipping, I have decided to give it a miss. Plus MT>the person's attitude annoyed me somewhat. MT>Anyway, I can give you the cattledog if you wish. You may have better MT>luck than I. Have faith, you were just unlucky! I have bought stacks of cd stuff from US seller found through this echo, and been entirely happy. The vendors I have dealt with include Ismail Arslingaray, Doug Carpenter, CD Rom Inc, & Computers at Large (forgive me for those I left out!). I even bought my drive mail-order (shipped to a friend in New York), and had not problems, or rather, any problems were fixed cheerfully and rapidly. My advice? Go for it.. these guys whose names you see all the time here are good guys, and will do the right thing. Mind you, if you need to get the vendor to send the goods direct to you, many of the savings evaporate, so at least check some of the Oz vendors too (their names appear in this echo as well) --- ■ WinQwk 2.0 B4 #220 ■ God must love stupid people, She made so many of them. --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Coastal Communications Multiline BBS (02)977-6820 (3:714/906) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY STOTT Number: 1632 To: TIM HELTON Date: 08/24/93 8:07a Subj: Re: New Echo - Multimedia Refer: NONE Read: 08/27/93 8:28p Private: No On 08-20-93, Tim Helton elucidated to David Harrison: TH>-> There is an echo with the exact same name in SBCNET, and I was wond TH>-> it is the exact same echo? TH> TH>It probably is if he creates echos the same way he creates CDs. MEOW!! Claws well out there Tim? <g> --- ■ WinQwk 2.0 B4 #220 ■ Multimedia extensions = Bill Gates' new mansion! --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Coastal Communications Multiline BBS (02)977-6820 (3:714/906) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT STEPHENS Number: 1633 To: LOONG CHUNG Date: 08/24/93 1:16p Subj: Panasonic CDR-63 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LC>Could any one give me full details on the Panasonic CDR-563? LC>e.g. Speed, transfer rate etc. LC>And how much is it in Australia? LC>Thanks LC>Loong Supposed to be 320ms access time, double transfer rate (300kb/sec), supports photo-cd, XA, multisession recordings, and costs A$450 for the AT-BUS version (through the SB interface). -Robert ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here. --- EzyQwk V1.02 * Origin: Lake BBS. NSW, Australia (049) 562853 (3:622/407) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEPHEN WALSH Number: 1634 To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 8:21p Subj: CDROM Drive wanted.. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No WANTED: I URGENTLY require a NEC CDR-80 cdrom SCSI drive. Please E-Mail me if you have one for sale or know of someone that does... Stephen Curl@csource.oz.au --- * Origin: Ballarat Mail +61-53-420845 V21->V32bis *700Mb* (3:635/509) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ASHLEY STRAHLE Number: 1635 To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 3:42p Subj: Guinness Disc of Records Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have a query, has anyone gone out and bought a copy of the Comptons 1992 Guinness Disc of Records (DOS version)? I have the "Special Edition", but I'd like to here from people who have the full edition. What is so special about the special edition is that I can't view the 256 color GIF pictures that are on the disc... only the 16 color GIF pictures that are on there. Anyway, what I'd like to know is whether the executable on the full version is the same as the "special edition". The file specs are: Executable: gdr.exe Size : 454192 bytes Date : 05-18-92 Time : 12:49p Can anyone help me out in what I am looking for??? Thanks in advance... Ashley Strahle. --- Maximus 2.00 * Origin: 4-DOS BBS Geelong (3:635/513) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARCUS LEE Number: 1636 To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/23/93 5:55p Subj: ATI + 7th Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I was thinking of purchasing an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro 2mb/EISA... and I noticed you said you had probs playing 7th Guest and only 86% optimal on the video... Are the probs related to the ATI card? And 86%.... I thought it would have to be 100% being such a great card... Do you run the vesa drivers that came on the CDROM? Regards. PS: How much do you think is a good price for the ATI, I've got around $780 quoted... Oh, and do you know ANY video cards that get 100%? --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Redcliffe Library Network (3:640/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANDRE QUEREE Number: 1637 To: CHRIS ROBINSON Date: 08/23/93 11:57p Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Yves Desjardins to Chris Robinson <=- YD> I just bought the Multimedia Pro16 II from Media Vision. The bundle YD> contains the ProStudio16 sound card, NEC CDR84 (internal, multispin, YD> multisession) plus 10 CD'S. I would recommand this sound card to YD> anyone who wants to buy a 16 bits sound card. It is fully compatible YD> with the sound blaster, the sound quality blows you away and it has a But remember it's only compatible with the original Sound Blaster, not the SB Pro or SB16 - that's another limiting factor for this sound card! Catch ya' later! Andre ... The first rule of intelligent tinkering is to save all the parts. --- Blue Wave/Max v2.11 [NR] * Origin: Heaven's Door * 61-2-440-8937 * 2 lines * T.PEP V32bis (3:711/927) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD NIXON Number: 1638 To: TONY DAVIS Date: 08/20/93 12:18a Subj: OIE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TD>That last count is the kicker. Since the DA has decided that the BBS TD>itself was in violation of laws, there seems little doubt that the OIE BBS TD>equipment will not be returned prior to a long drawn out legal fight. Find a local attorney who will take the case Pro-Bono, it will cost you more that what the computer is worth if you decide to hire an attorney. TD>Although I have every intention of filing whatever civil suites are TD>necessary to get the equipment returned, I truly believe there will not be TD>a quick return of OIE. Best of luck to you and please keep us posted. * OLX 2.1 TD * Any body seen my tagline...? --- WM v3.01/92-0214 * Origin: The Classifieds SF, CA (415) 665-7918 (1:125/665.0) (1:125/665.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SAM JONES Number: 1639 To: DON KULHA Date: 08/25/93 12:48p Subj: Pas16 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DK> Get real Louis. I think the Panasonic double DK> speed at it's price is a DK> good deal but "the same features"? Not even close. DK> You're comparing a 200 DK> millisecond drive to a 320ms, a 256k internal cache DK> to 64k, SCSI to proprietary DK> interface, a caddy drive to caddyless, forgetting DK> the self cleaning optics, DK> extra dust door, etc. The Panasonic is a consumer drive designed with DK> compromises to make a price point versus a serious DK> no compromise state of the DK> art drive. They both have their place but the DK> Panasonic doesn't stack up evenly DK> with the Tosh by a long shot. DK> DCK Yeah your right about the Toshiba being a faster drive but the 562-b runs all of my programs fast enough. And as far State-Of-The-Art goes that means NOTHING right now as newer faster drives will be superior to the Toshiba within a year, so why blow alot of $$$ now when the Panasonic can provide more than adequate performance for under $250? Sam --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Southern Star - 6 Lines - HST/V32b - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEITH DOMBROWSKI Number: 1640 To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 9:42p Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM Drivers. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No All, After much ado, I recieved the following on C-Serve... CompuServe Mail Date: 19-Aug-93 14:06 EDT From: Torsten Droste[totronik] [100064,1346] Reply to: Mitsumi Driver Hi Keith, USA and Canada residents can order directly from our US distributor MICROWARE TECHNOLOGY DISTRIBUTING, Inc. 51 Maplewood Avenue Albany, NY 12205 USA Phone: (518) 438-2512 (800) 382-2405 Fax: (518) 438-4002 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- So, it appears there is an easier way to get the german drivers... Keith --- DB B2011/020361 * Origin: The Dragon's Den * [914] 795-5199 * (1:272/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ENRIQUE IGNARRA Number: 1641 To: JUAN VALENTE Date: 08/24/93 4:53a Subj: Re: CD-ROM compatibility. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Juan Valente to All <=- JV> This message was from CHRIS DEPAOLA to JUAN VALENTE, JV> originally in conference GENRL_MAIL JV> and was forwarded to you by JUAN VALENTE. JV> ------------------------- JV> Nick, 'ol buddy, 'ol pal....HEEEEEEELLLLLLPPPPP!!!!!! JV> It seems like I only call you when I'm in trouble. SO I am in trouble JV> and I need help. I recently bought a CD-ROM drive that is supposedly JV> compatible with my Soundblaster Pro card, but I can't get the computer JV> to acknowledge the cd drive through the sound blaster. The cables are JV> compatible and fit fine, but for some reason it doesn't work. The I/O JV> address is 220 on the blaster but the cd-rom install program doesn't JV> list that option for I/O addresses. The options are only 300 and JV> higher on the cd-rom. AM I COMPATIBLE!!!!!! Please respond as soon as JV> possible, I'm realyy desperate. This is my second cd-rom drive. I NEED JV> COMPATIBILITY!!!! JV> Chris JV> * OLX 2.1 TD * Hick: Looks both ways before crossing a one-way street. i don't know much about this but you might want to try to change the address on the soundcard if you can. ... I'd rather ride the Wave than wallow in QWKsand! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- GOMail v1.1 [DEMO] 09-06-93 * Origin: Origin Line Not Defined In GOEDIT (1:135/356) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEOFF MOEHLE Number: 1642 To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 4:33p Subj: help! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey man write me a letter or something..im being ignored...where do i get fast access time and a 300kb/second transfer rate?...but at a good price!!!!!!im maybe interested in a Texel!! Well what do you...the people...think I should get? any help would be valuable...please write me!!! Geoff Moehle --- GEcho 1.00/beta+ * Origin: Well of Souls 503-741-1829 14400 16K files 1.4GIG (1:152/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE REED Number: 1643 To: DAVID YIELDING Date: 08/24/93 6:39p Subj: Chinon/Adaptec Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello David! Saturday August 21 1993, David Yielding writes to All: DY> Does anyone out there have a Chinon 435 on an Adaptec 1542b working? DY> mine will "see" the drive but tells me the media is invalid. I had the same problem, so I dumped the Chinon and bought a Toshiba. I tried and tried to get the Chinon to work, and after MANY calls to their tech support, they couldn't figure it out, either. ;-( ... "Imagination is more important than honesty" (Bill Clinton) --- QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-9) * Origin: The CrossRoads BBS <THE Source for Programmers!> (1:344/79) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1644 To: JOSH PICHE Date: 08/24/93 6:59a Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I've heard that the CD rom version will be out around the same time a -> disk version. Will the CD version include extra stuff, or is it just Sierra's CD-ROMS are ALWAYS different from disk version! The president of the company mentioned something about 'shovelware', that is disk software 'shovled' onto a CD and calling it CD-ROM. KQ6 for instance has an opening sequence about 7 times larger than the disk based version. Also prfessional voices for the characters. * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377 --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0051] * Origin: This Old House * D.S. 16.8 * Tacoma Wa (1:138/173) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NIRAV SHETH Number: 1645 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 5:01p Subj: FrEe CaTaLoG Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey, If anyone is interested, please call (205)351-0072 or write Nirav Sheth 2802 McDonald Ct. Decatur, AL 35603-8700 For a free catalog.... Good prices... Ex. MSBookshelf $60.... So on All new merchandise, new company.... Thank you... --- WM v3.01/92-0358 * Origin: Cyclone BBS! "Taking the World by Storm!" (1:3607/2.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 1646 To: MARK WOMAK Date: 08/20/93 10:39a Subj: Sound Blaster Pc Speaker Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No what that IS is a connection from you PC speaker to the SB. *** GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: Phone Henge [203-826-1153 HST/V32b] New Britain,CT (1:142/212) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG SHEPPARD Number: 1647 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 1:37a Subj: Double Speed Cd-rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SH@-}Everbody, I would like to know that whether that the speed of the SH@-}CPU(386/486) will affect the performance of the CD-Rom. It is because I SH@-}would like to purchase a CD-Rom but I don't know if one of my old 386 SH@-}can handle... Thank You! Sunny, Yes, your CPU will affect the CD-ROM. You failed to mention if you had a DX or an SX. I have a 386DX/33 with 8MB of RAM, and my Mitsumi drive works very smoothly; the animation in Wing Commander 2 is very smooth, with only the most graphics-packed screens have a millisecond pause. Nothing big, it's not even annoying. Well, back to the issue...there is one aspect of a CD-ROM that a processor upgrade would help tremendously, and that is the time it takes to load things. I've noticed that, even though animation is fine, a friend's 486DX-50 just blows mine away in the time it takes to load something. It's your decision. I'd say buy it from a reputable dealer, try it out, and if it just doesn't suit your fancy, return it. It's up to you...:) Good luck, Craig in South Jersey * SLMR 2.1a * Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic *** VFIDO 6.10.03 * Origin: K'tithrak Mang BBS (609) 453-0541 (1:266/75) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAM TEMPLE Number: 1648 To: VINCE SORENSEN Date: 08/22/93 1:15p Subj: Canadian Source Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Vince Sorensen wrote in a message to Pam Temple: VS> Yes, we sure do have a catalogue. If you want, you could VS> leave your address here, 10,000 Sussex Drive, Rosedale, B.C. V0X 1X0 VS> looking forward to hearing from you - thanks for asking! ThankYOU. Cheers, Pam *** timEd/B8 * Origin: A Brand new FTN System! (1:153/602.1) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROY D'ARCANGELO Number: 1649 To: SAM JONES Date: 08/24/93 3:22p Subj: Panasonic Benchmrk Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thanks Sam I will get it from there.... *** Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Southern Star - 6 Lines - HST/V32b - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL GEGGUS Number: 1650 To: JOE SLIFER Date: 08/23/93 12:36p Subj: Re: Mitsumi Drives Vs Panasonic Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Joe Slifer to Michael Geggus <=- MG> benches at 250ms @ 330Kbps using MegaDemo CDBench......Although I bought MG> the SB Pro seperatly from the CD-ROM I paid $129 for the SB Pro w/STW MG> encyclopedia for Win MPC, indy 500 and Lemmings (plus other goodies) and JS> Could you supply that source for the SB Pro & bundeled software. Computabiity in the Computer Shopper has it for $129US phone 1-800-554-9950 or (414)357-8181 if you can't use 800#s (like me, Japan). Fax (414)357-7814. They only charged me $6 for shipping to an APO (mil post office) in Japan, and it took 3 days to get it. Mike... *** Blue Wave/TG v2.10 [NR] * Origin: The Texas Lighthouse 81-3117-63-7572 (6:731/18.0) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL GEGGUS Number: 1651 To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/23/93 6:33p Subj: Re: Begining... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Rowan Evans to Michael Geggus <=- MG> CD ROM I/F and audio connector. MegaDemo Benched it at 250ms access MG> and 330Kbps. RE> RE> That's interesting... it only spex at 300Kbps and 450ms in RE> double-speed mode! Different Machines/environments/benchmarks/references....My Mitsumi book indicated a 350ms access and MegaDemos CDbench said it was 400ms and 150kBps.....The real key was during operations, I noticed the difference straight away. RE> What command line parameters did you use for CDMKE41.SYS.... I RE> couldn't get it to work so I changed to SBCD.SYS (and it works RE> fine!)..... This is it....... devicehigh /L:2,13440 =C:\CDMKE41.SYS /D:MVCD001 /R /SBP:220 /N:1 /A: I only added the /A: from the read.me text on the driver disk, it's not really necessary it should default to doublespeed. I've tried it high and low, and both run great with same spex. ... The question is.....What's to become of the Mitsumi in the box? *** Blue Wave/TG v2.10 [NR] * Origin: The Texas Lighthouse 81-3117-63-7572 (6:731/18.0) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL GEGGUS Number: 1652 To: SAM JONES Date: 08/23/93 12:55p Subj: Re: 562-b Driver Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Sam Jones to Michael Geggus <=- MG> the driver (my case CDMKE41.SYS) came with the CD- SJ> Hello, I also have the Panasonic 562-b and the drive seems to be SJ> very fast, except for one problem: In DOTT and kQ6 everything pauses SJ> for a split-second whenever the drive is accessed (ex- to read the SJ> speech data) then everthing is ok (no choppiness in speech or SJ> graphics). The driver I am using is SBCD.SYS. I would like to try the SJ> driver you are using, could you give me the # of a board that I could SJ> download it from on a first-time call if possible? Thanks, Sam Sam, the driver (CDMKE41.SYS) came with the drive and controller, purchased from Wee Yung (TRUC) who usually frequents this echo. My only local BBSs are here (sigh) in Japan, and I havn't seen it or SBCD.SYS or SBPCD.SYS here Maybe Wee Yung could assist you there. As for your delay what CPU are you using and how much memory do you have/ allocate to the CD-ROM. I use the standard set-up with CDMKE41.SYS (no mention of raw buffers unlike the Mitsumi) and MSCDEX uses 20 EMS buffers. Both drivers are loaded high (by Memmaker) on a doublespaced disk using DOS 6.0 (Ok DOS 6 haters take your shots). I'm not experiencing delays but I did with the mitsumi. The Mitsumi used DMA access (specified by the driver) The 562B driver did not specify DMA access. I am assumming through discussions here and throughout that on 486 machines (386 too I beleive) that DMA access is actually slower (DMA controllers I should say) than actually using CPU for access.....Food for thought...hope it helps? Mike..... ... Swapped the LU005 for the 562B captain.........Warp 9 Mr. Scott... *** Blue Wave/TG v2.10 [NR] * Origin: The Texas Lighthouse 81-3117-63-7572 (6:731/18.0) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL GEGGUS Number: 1653 To: MICHEL ROMY Date: 08/23/93 12:59p Subj: Re: Panasonic 562b Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Michel Romy to All <=- MR> Can anyone give me the spec. of the Panasonic 562B CD-Rom drive ? is Book says 380ms at 300Kbps (mine was faster using MegaDemo CDbench) Caddyless motorized tray, very nicely made. Some say you can get it for $249US internal. I paid $279US for it with controller, although I didn't need the controller as it plugs sraight into the SB Pro. Don't know of an external, but post a msg to Wee Yung this echo and he'll certainly reply........ MIke.... ... No problem is too big for High Explosives! *** Blue Wave/TG v2.10 [NR] * Origin: The Texas Lighthouse 81-3117-63-7572 (6:731/18.0) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIAN BISATZ Number: 1654 To: MARTIN ROODENBURG Date: 08/21/93 1:55a Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Martin You write the MITSUMI Drive has a 16-Bit AT-Bus interface. Since i intend to buy one of them, I'd like to know if it is possible to run this drives with two AT-BUS hard-drives install. Greetings from switzerland Gian. S QSZ portx %4 rz %3 / * 1st 1.11 #2201 * Point of no return !! *** FidoPCB v1.4 beta-'h' * Origin: Hitline Mailbox CH-Hausen (2:301/213) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PHIL HORNBY Number: 1655 To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/19/93 11:08p Subj: Mistumi/sb/sbpro Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Mark, On Wednesday August 11 1993, Mark Womack wrote to All: MW> But while I was looking at the SBPro board, I noticed a plug that MW> was identified as PC SPEAKER MW> The manual has no explanation of what it's for. See Page 18 and Appendix D of the "Getting Started" manual ... :-) MW> It's 2 MW> prongs and my speaker wire won't match it because it's 4 prongs. Only two wires are used to connect the speaker; you'll probably be able to see which two; you'll need to make up a lead to go from the motherboard to the SB/Pro. The polarity of the two connectors is important for it to work, but doesn't seem to do any lasting damage if you get 'em the wrong way round ;-) (Despite careful testing with my multimeter, I still managed to get them back-to-front, at the first attempt) MW> I wonder what output goes to the speaker - the sound output? No, it's the other way round....the beeps that would have gone to the internal speaker, get redirected to the SoundBlaster. I don't know if my motherboard is unusual, but I had a wire a 3K3 resistor in series with the speaker o/p, to reduce the volume a bit. Without it, the beeps came out as {{{{{BEEPS}}}}}} :-) Phil. *** GoldED 2.41 * Origin: Season's End <Leeds, Yorkshire, UK> (2:250/339.1) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOOP STOKVIS Number: 1656 To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 08/18/93 2:52p Subj: So Much Shareware Iii Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Ismail! Could you send me a catolog with all your CDroms? My address is: Joop Stokvis C/o Stichting BBS Waterland PObox 1196 1440 BD Purmerend The Netherlands Thanks in advance! Groeten! Joop *** TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: BBS Waterland is now node 2:280/802 (12 lines) (2:280/803) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOOP STOKVIS Number: 1657 To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/18/93 2:55p Subj: Night Owls 9 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boris! Could you send me a catalog? My address is: Joop Stokvis C/o Stichting BBS Waterland PObox 1196 1440 BD Purmerend The Netherlands I'am intersted in players as well! Thanks! Groeten! Joop *** TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: BBS Waterland is now node 2:280/802 (12 lines) (2:280/803) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOOP STOKVIS Number: 1658 To: MICHAEL KONOR Date: 08/18/93 2:57p Subj: Scsi Cdrom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Michael! > SCSI CDROMs For Sale: > > Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00 > Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00 Do you ship them to Europe as well? I'am interested in 2 external drives! You could send me a fax to: xx31 2990 43030. Groeten! Joop *** TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: BBS Waterland is now node 2:280/802 (12 lines) (2:280/803) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAN WILLEM RUYS Number: 1659 To: PADDY DRURY Date: 08/18/93 10:04p Subj: Dinosaurs ? Which One ?? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Me HAVE to have dinosaur cd Media design interactive features a CD on Dinosaurs. I don't know the exact price, but it is in the region of 120 $. Contact them on +44 252 737630, or FAX +44 252 710948. Cheers, _/an Willem *** TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: BBS Waterland is now node 2:280/802 (12 lines) (2:280/803) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM FREDERICK Number: 1660 To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 5:44p Subj: 7th Guest... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I'm having problems with 7Th guest. I bought it when it first came out, and played it through. I haven't tried to play it for a while. In the meantime I upgraded from DOS 5 to DOS 6.... now it won't work at all. Has anyone else had this problem? My settings in my config and autoexec are the same, I have even more free memory. What's the problem? I'm open to suggestions..... thanks. Jim. *** WM v3.01/93-0070 * Origin: GATEWAY ONLINE SYSTEMS, Lakeland Fl. 813-686-8530 (1 (1:3635/20.0) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROB MCINTYRE Number: 1661 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/24/93 7:02a Subj: Cd Liquidation! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No What is the JEDI Collection ? Is it a Star Wars library ? *** Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: *** Electronic Encounters - Ottawa Ontario, Canada *** (1:163/133) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 1662 To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 10:49p Subj: Norton Speedcache Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey everyone, please tell me what this Norton SpeedCache is, is this a cache for the CD-ROM if so, does it come with Norton Utilities, or is it a totaly different product and how much does it cost and does it work, you see I have a 350 ms 150 kb/sec Mitsumi drive and though I am perfectly satisfied by it sofar, I would like to speed it up, so please tell me what this SpeedCache is about, thanx and C-ya Ashwin *** WM v2.06 [Eval]/ * Origin: $$$$ Fort Knox BBS $$$$ 2 Nodes <16.8 HST-DS> (1:324/293) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN CALLICRATE Number: 1663 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/23/93 11:24p Subj: Ez-scsi Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No If you're interested, I have EZ-SCSI disk & manual (both are originals) I'll let them go for $50.00 total, that includes I mail them to you. If someone wants it, call me at 503/623-4924. I would only accept payment of a money order. *** WM v3.01/93-0024 * Origin: Chemeketa Online BBS (503) 393-5580 (1:3406/15.0) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VID KID Number: 1664 To: MARTIN ROODENBURG Date: 08/23/93 3:47p Subj: Mitsumi Cd-rom Drives Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No From what i heard there was a module available for the mitsumi that would enable you to connect a soundcard. But without that module it will not work with a soundcard. From all the information i have gathered over the last few months about the mitsumi. The modules between $50-70. I have only seen one place that had it available. But cant seem to remember where. Try contacting mitsumi and they might be able to tell you where to get it. Vidkid *** Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Rogue's Guild -Woodland Hills CA- (818) 347-4291 (1:102/812) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VID KID Number: 1665 To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/23/93 3:50p Subj: Cdrom Systems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boris on the DRM 604X when you say bare. Do you mean without cables & software? I have seen a few places offering the same but they include the cables and software. What Scsi II controllers are available for that drive that come with the drivers for it? Last of all what is the name of your company? *** Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Rogue's Guild -Woodland Hills CA- (818) 347-4291 (1:102/812) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1666 To: STEVE GERWECK Date: 08/24/93 12:01a Subj: Best Cdrom Prices!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SG> DC> * Busty Babes......29.95 SG> SG> Can you match Mike Shannon's offer of $29 PPD?? SG> BM> Oh, come on! For 95 cents, you have sysops all over the world carrying SG> BM> a post showing your unwillingness to do your business on your own SG> BM> dime? If a vendor does a good job, 95 cents is nothing. Give us all a SG> BM> break and do your ordering in another manner. SG>Give me a break! You forget the $4 or $5 for shipping. Steve, Why not just order it from us and save yourself the aggravation? We have an 800 number, and we ship 2-day mail from within the U.S. Taking the *other* route, an order from Canada could take anywhere from 3 days to 2 weeks, plus the shipping would probably be a little higher. Interested, call 1-800-767-1284 and it will ship out the same day. $29 ppd. No surcharge for plastic. No hassles. Later, .\\ike STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5 *** * SLMR 2.1a * Tagline thievery . . . On the next Geraldo! *** MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1667 To: PADDY DRURY Date: 08/24/93 12:01a Subj: Tag Line ??? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No PD> MS> * SLMR 2.1a * If it's British, it leaks. PD>As a Brit I am not to impressed with the the tag line PD>( UNLESS you are talking about our fine line in PD>watering cans < grin > No Paddy, it was directed more in the area of your fine British autos, one of which I own. <g> Actually the ol' Lotus isn't too bad for leaks, but I've seen some MG's and Jags that have created oil slicks on par with the Exxon Valdez. 8) All part of the fun I guess. PD>On another point what sort of a deal could you do me for sending over PD>a bundle of CD's PD>Say 5 copies of ten tiles for a test run I can give you excellent prices in quantity. Call me sometime at 509-457-2892 and we can talk further! Have around 325 titles in stock right now, so there are many titles to choose from in all categories. Later, .\\ike STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5 *** * SLMR 2.1a * E-Mailing frequencies are open Captain. *** MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1668 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 12:01a Subj: Cd-rom Liquidation! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No STARVECTOR CD-ROM LIQUIDATION SPECIALS! Q & A 4.0...........$34 Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15 House of Games......$20 Compton's Interact..$95 US Wars: Korea......$29 US Wars: Des. Storm.$29 Super CD 2..........$15 Super CD 1..........$14 Programmers Megapak.$29 Canadian Shareware..$19 MAC Shareware.......$22 Clipart Heaven......$19 5Star Prem. Windows.$27 Otherware I.........$17 Jedi Collection.....$39 History of Jazz.....$45 Hacker Chronicles...$24 Reel Clips..........$35 Kodak Photo CD......$18 Phoenix 3.0.........$12 Game Arena..........$10 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5 *** * SLMR 2.1a * The magic of Windoze: Turning a 486 into an XT. *** MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1669 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 12:01a Subj: New Cd's @ Starvector! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BRAND NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR! Soundware Coll'ctn..$27 So Much Shareware 3.$28 QRZ Ham Radio.......$19 Hobbes OS/2 1993....$16 Hamware 1993........$28 Game Arena..........$13 Eagle Eye Shareware.$25 Up All Night........$17 Precision Mapping...$88 Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$29 Electronic Cookbook.$33 Learning Adventure..$13 M/M Computer Tutor..$24 Sound F/X Library...$19 Cookbook Heaven.....$27 Int'l Graphics Libr.$33 Musical Instruments.$57 The Holy Bible......$24 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5 *** * SLMR 2.1a * ...Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball... *** MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1670 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 12:01a Subj: D/l Or Freq Our Catalog! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *************************************************************************** FREQ OR DOWNLOAD STARVECTOR'S CURRENT CATALOG W/ 300+ CD-ROM TITLES! *************************************************************************** To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 300+ CD-ROM titles that we stock, you may either download our catalog file from our BBS, or Freq (file request) it. (CD descriptions + prices included) BBS: 509-457-0206 - Download STARCAT.ZIP from <F>ile menu. (1st call) FREQ: 1:3407/101 - File request STARCAT.ZIP *** * SLMR 2.1a * E-Mailing frequencies are open Captain. *** MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 1671 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 2:37a Subj: Maximus & Downloading Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I'm having a bit of trouble when downloading a file from the disc at 1200bps (that's what's in the notebook, I haven't watched other users yet so I don't know about faster speeds). Every 16K, *exactly*, Maximus reports "Unable to read drive F" (the rom). When I'm running FrontDoor/Maximus alone, the file transmission stops at 16384 bytes, *WITHOUT ERROR* (although obviously the entire file isn't there). Attempting to resume under Zmodem results in a new copy which terminates at the same place. When I'm running FrontDoor/Maximus under a DV window (XDV actually, loading DV high), at every 16K (exactly) there is an error visible at the sysop end, but the drive apparently recovers and the DL continues. At the user end nothing is noticed to be wrong. This happens only when DLing from the disc. DL from the harddrive works fine, copying from the disc to the HD and DLing works fine too. The disc is intact, the drive works fine, etc. My CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT should be in the next message. Thanks for your help. *** * Origin: The Airtight Garage, San Francisco, Cal. 415-641-0348 (1:125/17) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 1672 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 2:38a Subj: Max & Dl, Supplemental Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Here is my CONFIG.SYS: DEVICE=C:\QEMM386.SYS NOSH RAM DEVICE=SSTORDRV.SYS /NOHIGH DEVICE=D:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:3 C:\BOOT\NJRAMDXP.SYS /P90 LASTDRIVE=K SHELL=C:\COMMAND.COM C:\ /E:256 /P BUFFERS=1 FILES=40 FCBS=1 STACKS 0,0 DEVICE=C:\BOOT\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:310 /A:0 REM DEVICE=C:\BOOT\MTMCDE.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:310 /A:0 /M:20 /I:10 /X Here is my AUTOEXEC.BAT: @echo off d:\qemm\loadhi /r:1 d:\qemm\BUFFERS=30 d:\qemm\loadhi /r:2 c:\dos\share rem d:\qemm\loadhi /r:3 c:\dos\doskey d:\qemm\loadhi /r:1 c:\boot\ksmus20/1 rem c:\loadhi /r:2 c:\mscdex.exe /d:mscd001 /m:10 /v /e d:\qemm\loadhi /r:2 d:\star\util\vmode monitor d:\qemm\loadhi /r:2 d:\star\util\vmode vesa c:\boot\mscdex.exe /d:mscd001 /m:10 /v /e SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 T4 SET SOUND=D:\SBPRO d:\sbpro\sbp-set /m:12 /voc:12 /cd:12 /fm:12 /line:12 PATH = c:\;C:\DOS;C:\BATCH;C:\FD;C:\UTIL;C:\ADDSTOR;C:\MAX;d:\pctools prompt $p$g set dv=d:\dv set fd=c:\fd set golded=c:\fd\ged SET PCTOOLS=D:\PCTOOLS set squish=c:\fd\squish SET TEMP=e:\ c: f.bat [F.BAT runs Front Door. XDV (DESQview) works better usually.] *** * Origin: Airtight Garage 415-641-0348 San Francisco California US (1:125/17) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALASTAIR EDGINGTON Number: 1673 To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 12:03a Subj: Os/2 And Soundblaster Pro 2.0 Cd-rom Driv Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hiya, I've got OS/2 2.1, MultiMedia Program Manager with SoundBlaster Pro set up and working fine, but i can't get the SoundBlaster CD-ROM working!! I've tried inserting soundblaster's sbpcd.sys (or whateva it's called) in os/2's config.sys. This works fine, and the CD is accessed and all is fine. I just can't figure out where to get the cd-rom extensions driver from!! mscdex won't work. it comes up with incorrect dos version. If anyone has any ideas, i'd love to here them!! Regards, Alastair Edgington *** Ezycom V1.02 * Origin: The Web BBS, Mitcham +61-3-872-5574 (3:634/391.7) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEPHEN WALSH Number: 1674 To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 8:21p Subj: Cdrom Drive Wanted.. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No WANTED: I URGENTLY require a NEC CDR-80 cdrom SCSI drive. Please E-Mail me if you have one for sale or know of someone that does... Stephen Curl@csource.oz.au *** * Origin: Ballarat Mail +61-53-420845 V21->V32bis *700Mb* (3:635/509) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARCUS LEE Number: 1675 To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/23/93 5:55p Subj: Ati + 7th Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I was thinking of purchasing an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro 2mb/EISA... and I noticed you said you had probs playing 7th Guest and only 86% optimal on the video... Are the probs related to the ATI card? And 86%.... I thought it would have to be 100% being such a great card... Do you run the vesa drivers that came on the CDROM? Regards. PS: How much do you think is a good price for the ATI, I've got around $780 quoted... Oh, and do you know ANY video cards that get 100%? *** Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Redcliffe Library Network (3:640/203) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARLIN ROWLEY Number: 1676 To: STEPHEN KOVACSISS Date: 08/24/93 2:24p Subj: EXPLAIN SOUND CARDS TO ME Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I found this information in the PC Magazine article concerning Sound cards and they stated that the Ultra Gravis Sound card can "record at 16-bit 44khz, and 12-bit playback at 32khz." Whether this is true or not, I don't know. I'm not trying to start a sound war here, so if I'm wrong then I'm wrong. --- WM v3.01/91-0239 * Origin: Nite-Air BBS System(315) (1:2609/3.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB JACKSON Number: 1677 To: SHAUN RADER Date: 08/25/93 8:34a Subj: Re: 7th guest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Shaun Rader to Graham Murphy <=- SR> <<***** GRAHAM MURPHY wrote this on 08-17─93 {May be edited} *****>> ─>Thats about all it does work well with. S3's are no good for anything ─>other than windows - < remainder of text deleted> SR> Yeah, I know what you mean.. but I would expect the S3 to do OKAY with SR> The 7th Guest because it's in SVGA mode and so is Windows (I guess SR> they are two COMPLETELY different video modes). I mean.. 2% is pretty SR> sad! It's still better then the 1% I used to get with my Trident. I SR> wonder if I had a SpeedStar 24x (which is what I originally wanted).. SR> if I would get 100%. Without trying to start a "my video chip is better than your video chip" war, especially in a CD-ROM echo, I would say that those interested in optimizing their video performance, for interactive CDs or otherwise, would be well-advised to call up Steve Gibson's BBS (the columnist for Info World and others) and download his video board test results. They are a bit surprising and somewhat contradictory to much of what is in the trades (especially the ads) regarding various video technologies, including the "accelerators". Those who like to trash the S3 chips for DOS apps just might get their attitudes adjusted a bit. ... File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N) --- Blue Wave/RA v2.10 * Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 | (1:106/30.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB JACKSON Number: 1678 To: TIM HELTON Date: 08/25/93 8:43a Subj: Re: Files.bbs Refer: NONE Read: 08/27/93 8:28p Private: No -=> Quoting Tim Helton to Brian Hipps <=- TH> FILES.BBS is the most abused word in this business.... Long ago, TH> QuickBBS referred to their file listings as "FILES.BBS". This format TH> contained the file name, beginning on column #1, and a 45 byte file TH> description beginning on column #14. That's a FILES.BBS description TH> file. Thanks, Tim. I'm not a sysop so I'm not terribly interested in such items - BUT - from now on in my reviews, I'll try to be more robust in my descriptions of such files as I find them on CDs. Previously, I've just used the name I found on the CD. I think I'll start describing the contents (e.g. what stuff starts in what column, etc.) so sysops can understand what to expect. I enjoyed the brief trip through FILES.BBS land. ... I call things as I see them; If I didn't see them, I make them up! --- Blue Wave/RA v2.10 * Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 | (1:106/30.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID SNIDER Number: 1679 To: RICK COOKE Date: 08/24/93 12:18p Subj: Virtual Sex Disk Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting Rick Cooke to All dated 08-15-93 *** > I saw a show on HBO featuring a CDROM that was a Virtual Reality > Xrated disk. Anyone heard of this, and know where it is available? > > Rick Cooke > Yeah, I heard of "Virtual-Valerie" X-rated CD-ROM on Real Sex 6 on HBO myself. And I REALLY want to know where it is myself. David Snider --- FastEcho 1.20a * Origin: Midnight Express (1:2410/165) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID SNIDER Number: 1680 To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/24/93 12:31p Subj: sound blaster 16 vs 16ASP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting Louis Ghinis to All dated 08-15-93 *** > Louis > *!* FidoPCB v1.4 beta > * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) > > *** Quoting Louis Ghinis to All dated 08-15-93 *** > *@SUBJECT:sound blaster 16 vs 16ASP? N I'll tell you Louis (I hope I spelled that right) the difference between the SB16 and the SB16 ASP is that the asp has a Advanced Signal Processor or a DSP for signal processing and compressing/decompressing. And that means that you can change the waveform and it will take 65% of the load off the host CPU. And here's the kicker you can get a hold of a daughterboard called the WaveBlaster that can simulate General-midi and the Roland MT-32 and it's compatable with ANYTHING that can use GMIDI or Roland and now you don't have to pay a fortune for some good midi equipment, it retails for $250 more or less, and from what i hear it sounds DAMN good. David Snider p.s I hope this information helps you,and if it does let me know, O.K.? --- FastEcho 1.20a * Origin: Midnight Express (1:2410/165) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID SNIDER Number: 1681 To: ZORAN ANANIJEV Date: 08/25/93 2:12a Subj: SB16ASP+WBLASTER Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No No,the TG-16 is not compatable but the Turbo Duo system is retailing for $299.99 with ALOT of games. And I'm glad I could help. David Snider --- FastEcho 1.20a * Origin: Midnight Express (1:2410/165) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID SNIDER Number: 1682 To: STEVEN CALLAND Date: 08/25/93 2:15a Subj: Turbo Grafx CD-ROM?? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No No,the TG-16 is not compatable but the Turbo Duo system is retailing for $299.99 with ALOT of games. And I'm glad I could help. David Snider --- FastEcho 1.20a * Origin: Midnight Express (1:2410/165) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EDWARD PALMER Number: 1683 To: STEVE MCKAIN Date: 08/24/93 8:15p Subj: NEC CDR-25 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No You're welcome, Steve. By the way, I noticed another reply to you from Eric Ho. He said that the drive couldn't be daisy-chained because it only had one connector. In case you're not familiar with SCSI, he's only half right. The drive does have only one connector, but you can still daisy-chain it if you make it the last drive on the chain. Ed --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: (1:140/28) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAHMUT KURSUN Number: 1684 To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 8:17p Subj: Nightowl 9 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello, it seems that nightowl makers just take files from every available source and press them without certifiying into a CDROM. As long as I remember, every Nightowl has a slight irregularity. The 6.0 (my first CDROM) has a copyrighted Game from Apogee, the 8.0 has a hack of a copyrighted freeware graphicsprogram, the Raytracer POV, but it is tolerated by the POV Group and on the new 9.0, I found in Section 23 Games/Recreation a file with the titel GIG.ZIP; GIG.ZIP [0] Arcade Style Game Not Bad. ). Which contains the Filelist of a Adult BBS in Hawaii GIG LST 289165 02-05-93 12:04a GIG-JPG LST 312971 02-02-93 3:00p If you master a CDROM, check it out closer. Next mail is a What-to-do-list --- * Origin: Monster Point 1290 (2:246/4.1290) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAHMUT KURSUN Number: 1685 To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 10:00p Subj: Pressing CDROM, what-to-do Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No If you master a CDROM, check it out closer. Here is a list what to do: -Dont put Wolfenstein 3D on your CDROM (forbidden in Germany) -Just zip the files, if you use just one packer, it is easier for the user. You favorite Phil Katz's PKZIP Program but it is the most used packer in the PC-World. Dont put the original PKZIP in the root of the CDROM, take the PKUNZIP Code (I think free code to unzip *.ZIP packets exist somewhere) and make your own UNZIP program. Use PKZIP 1.1 Format, this is the easiest way and the new PKZIP 2.0 is a screamer when it comes to unzip the 1.1 format. You can save 5-10% with PKZIP 2.0 but on 640 MB, there is no need to save place. -put banners out of Zipped packets -If you convert different packer formats to zip and slip the banners, you get trouble with some archives that have a security envelope. I think it should be overridden, except in the Virus protection area. -check all Files with shez or a similar Archive Utility. With shez, you see if the file consistance is 100% and you also see if the File is OS/2 or unix with extended Filenames, extended Paths or "/" slash instead of "\" backslash in the paths. You also can simply exclude BBS Ads or Ads of Shareware selling companies. -Dont compilate a new CDROM from other CDROMs -Dont take a CDROM for Source for a new CDROM -Dont reprint a CDROM under a new name, or dont call it V X+1 if it is same or only slight changed -Dont blow up 640x480 GIFS to 1024x768 Gifs with rescale option of some graphicprograms. The picture Quality could not be improved with rescaling. -If you use the Word GIF, mention that it is Trademark of Compuserve -Think about the CDROM if you want to make it MPC, for example, I have a MPC CDROM, which has the original Microsoft Mousedriver and the original Tseng4000 VESA driver, the files are just renamed. And this MPC CDROM only work if you have a Original Soundblaster Card and a Tseng4000 Card. This will lead to lots of trouble on other systems. A better example is a new MPC CDrom, which uses Sound and displays the Pictures with 320x480 which is a crippled IBM VGA 320x200 and should work on most Graphiccards without any driver. -Dont print confusing prices on CDROMs. I saw people that print 169$ to a CDROM and on the Market the CDROM goes by the price of 30 $. -something weird: Make it full, that means 640 Meg or die! -If you print the filesize on the CDROM or in the documents, calculate it this way: 100000000= 100 Million bytes not equal 100 MB (Megabytes) this is 95.3 MB because 1 MB is 1024 Kbytes and 1 Kbyte is 1024 Bytes special for sysops: -use less folders, some Sysops have BBS Software that only support 200 Fileareas. 50 Areas on Harddisc and 3 CDROM with each 50 Areas and the System is dunn. With 12 CDROM each 10 Folders, it is no Problem for a Sysop to add more CDROM to the BBS. -use this Quickbbs FILES.BBS format: XXXXXXXX.EXT Description ^14th column -use this TBBS FILES.DIR format: ; Banner FILENAME.EXT FILENAME.EXT Description -also make a FAR File, which is used on some BBS Systems Here is a example FAR File that I use with TBBS and Shareware Studio 1 d:\ANSI\files.bbs ANSI d:\BASIC\files.bbs BASIC d:\BATCH\files.bbs Batch d:\BBS\files.bbs BBS-Systems d:\BBSLIST\files.bbs BBS Lists ... -also try to make some alternate FILES.BBS Files: FILENAME.EXT Size Date Description FILENAME.EXT Size Description You can put all this different FILES.BBS Files on the CDROM, like: FILES.BBS, FILES.DIR, (I dont know Remote Access Files Format, I think it should be FILES.RA and similar to QBBS Format), FILES.001, GIFS.BBS UTILS.BBS, GIFS.LST, UTILS.LST ... -Make a FILES.BBS. Aint no matter if you dont have BBS Experience. With a FILES.BBS Filedescription you give the User short and usefull information about the FILES in each subdirectory. -If you make a interface that shows and extracts Zipfiles off the CDROM, make this utility autodetect the screensize. Most Programs that I know are limited to 25 Line Screens. I prefer 50 Lines when it comes to textscreens. --- * Origin: Monster Point 1290 (2:246/4.1290) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN ROODENBURG Number: 1686 To: GIAN BISATZ Date: 08/26/93 11:42p Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Gian, > You write the MITSUMI Drive has a 16-Bit AT-Bus interface. Since i > intend to buy one of them, I'd like to know if it is possible to run > this drives with two AT-BUS hard-drives install. The 16-Bit AT-Bus interface is really not the same thing as your IDE-AT-Bus interface altough the names might be confusing. In fact the two adapter-types are using different IO-adresses and won't interfere with eachother. On the controller that comes with the Mitsumi drive are quit a lot of selectrable adresses, interrupts and DMA-channels. There's so much choice It (almost) can't go wrong (unless you want to install five or more of these controllers...). Greetings from The Netherlands, Martin. --- * Origin: It's hard to make original origins, so I don't ! (2:285/101.12) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN ROODENBURG Number: 1687 To: JUAN VALENTE Date: 08/27/93 12:00a Subj: CD-ROM compatibility. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Juan, JV> Nick, 'ol buddy, 'ol pal....HEEEEEEELLLLLLPPPPP!!!!!! JV> It seems like I only call you when I'm in trouble. SO I am in trouble JV> and I need help. I recently bought a CD-ROM drive that is supposedly JV> compatible with my Soundblaster Pro card, but I can't get the computer JV> to acknowledge the cd drive through the sound blaster. The cables are JV> compatible and fit fine, but for some reason it doesn't work. The I/O JV> address is 220 on the blaster but the cd-rom install program doesn't JV> list that option for I/O addresses. The options are only 300 and JV> higher on the cd-rom. AM I COMPATIBLE!!!!!! Please respond as soon as JV> possible, I'm realyy desperate. This is my second cd-rom drive. I NEED JV> COMPATIBILITY!!!! JV> Chris The 220-address your friend is talking about is usually the address used for the soundblaster-card itself, not for the CD-ROM-Drive. I don't have a REAL soundblaster myself (just a good working 16-bits SB Pro clone ) but as far as I know, the soundblaster uses the 300-address, optionally the 320-address. But now some questions: What type of CD-ROM-drive does your friend have ? Is he using some kind of install-program that came with the SB ? I'm told a Panasonic ???-drive could be connected without problems. A Mitsumi won't work without some cable-tricks on a SB Pro. Bye, Martin. --- * Origin: It's hard to make original origins, so I don't ! (2:285/101.12) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SAM BROWN Number: 1688 To: DON SPROUL Date: 08/24/93 10:26p Subj: Re: Gravis Ultrasound Card and CD-Rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Select a dma channel that doesn't conflict with the GUS. You may be using dma 1 now, switch to 5, or in windows if it is choppy set the dma to 1 (8 bit) strangely enough it seems to fix the problem. --- Renegade v07-17 Exp * Origin: The Library of Trantor *1 Gig* 404-920-7711 v32bis (1:133/707) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAURENCE ALLEN Number: 1689 To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 08/24/93 3:47p Subj: Cd Rom requirements Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > 486 DX-33 > 130 MEG IDE HD > Both Floppies > 4 MB Ram > SVGA Monitor and card > > Now I plan to run OS/2 v2.1 on this system and I am thinking about a > CD-Rom drive and maybe even a sound card. Now my question is, what > kind > of CD-Rom drive and adaptors do I need to get to be compatible with my > IDE hard drive and OS/2? Please help me A.S.A.P. Thanks! > Try the Texel CD Rom Drive and a Trantor T130 SCSI-2 Controler card. The Sound Blaster also works great. * KWQ/2 1.2 * NP> * KWQ/2 1.2 * Boost OS/2 2.1 sales - release Windows NT --- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93 * Origin: JW-PC Consulting DataFlex.HST (608)837-1923 (1:121/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY MURPHY Number: 1690 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 11:08a Subj: Cd rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Here is the READ.ME I sent just today to McAfee Associates as part of an archive with a file from PIER2. I forward it to you FWIW: --------------------------------- 8/24/93 This IDEDIAGP.ZIP archive comes from the PIER2 CD-ROM. SCN107BT finds Over4032 [O-4032] virus in the EXE file. It's strange to me that, first of all, [O-4032] is NOT listed in VIRLIST.TXT, nor in any other reference I have, and also strange that SCN107BT found this same virus in a different sample sent last week (in VIPER.EXE). [Viper.exe was found on PC World *.* subscription disk, #5] Also strange is the fact that BOTH samples are accompanied by Turbo PAScal source code! Is this an infection in a TP compiler? Is it an anomoly of TP or SCN107BT? Inquiring minds ... If there *is* such a virus, it's been a busy boy; showing up in two places in MY home is most unlikely. One came in on a commercial floppy, and now one on a CD-ROM! I'd very much appreciate a phone call, verifying or debunking the implied threat of this virus. I've no idea what it might do, and I won't execute it. The people who produce the PIER2 CD-ROM need to hear about it, too. (I'm not convinced it isn't a false alarm from SCN107BT.) Thanks in advance for your expected reply. Jerry Murphy (I also sent them my address/phone) ---------------------------------- In the unlikely event I hear from McAfee any time soon, I'll let you all know what they say. Meanwhile, a prudent person would be very careful. Practice safe HEX! the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio * DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * Nature almost always sides with the hidden flaw. --- InterPCB 1.50 * Origin: Nerd's Nook (216)-356-1431 - HST (1:157/3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY MURPHY Number: 1691 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 11:20p Subj: Over4032 [o-4032] virus Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No McAfee Associates has confirmed by phone call just moments ago that the file I thought infected by this virus, which was found on the PIER2 CD-ROM, is actually a FALSE ALARM, related to the Turbo Pascal library functions. SCAN107 BETA will be repaired, and the final version will NOT give this same false alarm again. To confirm, the file IDEDIAGP.ZIP on PIER2, and the file VIPER.EXE on PC World's *.* #5, are both clean of viruses. --- InterPCB 1.50 * Origin: Nerd's Nook (216)-356-1431 - HST (1:157/3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES ZMIJEWSKI Number: 1692 To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/25/93 12:00a Subj: Avi file Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I'm still loking for a disk with avi files on it. If it was wav files or gif pictures their would be no problem, is avi just the new thing out or is thier some problem making them. I was also wondering if you knew anyone who sells IDE Drives (Western Digital) --- InterPCB 1.50 * Origin: Nerd's Nook (216)-356-1431 - HST (1:157/3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LUIZ MEYER Number: 1693 To: CHRISTIAN GRIMM Date: 08/23/93 6:48p Subj: scsi cdrom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Christian Grimm to Michael Konor <=- CG> * Em mensagem para All, Michael Konor disse: MK > SCSI CDROMs For Sale: MK > Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00 MK > Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00 MK > Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac. Features 50 MK > Pin True SCSI, MK > 300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and MK > 64k Buffer. MK > Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty MK > 205-837-5053 anytime. CG> De que cidade você é? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You really don't think he'll understand what you're saying, do you? See ya! Luiz Meyer ... Danger, Christian Grimm! Off-topic messages! Danger! --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: < Top BBS > [Ctba,PR,BR*041-273-5895*14.4 V32b*14H-6H] (4:804/3.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SHADOW SMITH Number: 1694 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 11:23p Subj: CDROMNET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MHS Addr: CDROMNET --- ConfMail V3.2 * Origin: Paradigm BBS (10 Lines) * Hampton, VA * 804-838-3644 (1:271/175) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE MCKAIN Number: 1695 To: MICHAEL KONOR Date: 08/25/93 8:24a Subj: RE: SCSI CDROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MK>>MK>Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00 MK>> MK>>Is this drive daisy chain able??? MK>Yes! The external case has two 50 pin centronics which can be used for MK>daisy chaining drives. Could you provide me with more information such as access time, transfer rates, reliability??? Steve --- * QMPro 1.50 41-4928 * UFO's are real, the Air Force doesn't exist. --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff072/a] * Origin: The Orient Express - An Elite BBS for Adults - (1:372/6969) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE MCKAIN Number: 1696 To: MICHAEL KONOR Date: 08/25/93 8:31a Subj: SCSI CDROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MK>SCSI CDROMs For Sale: MK>Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00 MK>Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00 MK>Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac. Features 50 Pin True SCSI, MK>300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and 64k Buffer. MK>Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty MK>205-837-5053 anytime. Does this come with controller card and cables another words would it be ready to plug and play when it arrived??? Steve --- * QMPro 1.50 41-4928 * Hard Work never killed anyone, but why chance it? --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff072/a] * Origin: The Orient Express - An Elite BBS for Adults - (1:372/6969) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHARLES HART Number: 1697 To: MICHAEL HAJOVSKY Date: 08/23/93 9:10p Subj: Re: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MH> Hear, Hear. I am all for it. If you disagree with the prohibition of MH> free speech just leave the country, or be removed from the society. MH> Now, since we have democrats in the White House the rule should apply MH> against republicans subversive speech, as well as against the free CD MH> discussion subversives in the CD_Echo. As has been made very clear to me, an Echo is _not_ a democracy. A well regulated dictatorship is a much better description. No one is forcing you to stay where you do not want to be, so if you don't like the rules, *leave*. That's what the ancestors of most living Americans did when the result was a bit more drastic that the result that will come from leaving an Echo. But, that's you total and only recourse - the moderator "owns" the Echo and does exactly what he want when he wants - and if he fails to please the bulk of the members they will stop comming[[[[[[[.[D [Dcoming, so I suspect the good moderator of this Echo is responding to member comments. --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: Terrapin Station BBS * (904)939-8027 * USR DS * (1:366/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1698 To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 08/24/93 11:24p Subj: PRECISION MAPPING Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL>Hi Mike. Can you give me a little help with using Precision Mapping? I JL>am having a little trouble figuring out how to get down to city level. Which version do you have? The new version 1.5b has much improved city search and zooming features, plus an addendum to the manual, which explains a lot more. If you have version 1.2, you might consider sending it to S&S for an upgrade. Later, .\\ike --- * SLMR 2.1a * Used taglines for $ale - 8 bits each. Call 555-FUNY --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1699 To: MARK PALMER Date: 08/24/93 11:24p Subj: encyclopedias et al Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MP> MS> We have the Grolier's Illustrated version 2.0 at $35. The MPC version MP> MS> is $48. Call any time if interested. MP>What would shipping to the UK cost???? $5 by Small Packet Airmail (no insurance), or $11 for insured Airmail. Feel free to call or fax any time if you need more assistance. Later, .\\ike STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5 --- * SLMR 2.1a * My computer's down. Can someone send it flowers? --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1700 To: JOE PATTERSON Date: 08/24/93 11:24p Subj: CD's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JP>Hi Mike, ya got a magic name for the catalog? If not whats the file name? JP> Thanks....... Jp :{) Joe, If you're referring to our catalog file, it is named "STARCAT.ZIP". You can either d/l it from our board at 509-457-0206, or freq it from 1:3407/101. Hope that helps. Bye, .\\ike --- * SLMR 2.1a * If it's British, it leaks. --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1701 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 11:25p Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 SPECIALS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS! IT'S HERE! IT'S SHIPPING! IT'S HOT! AND IT'S 680+MB OF PURE 93 SHAREWARE! N I G H T O W L +--------+ | | +=======+ | $29.00 | ====|===|==== || || +--------+ | | || || ====|===|==== +=======| * SPECIAL - NIGHT OWL 8 + 9 . . . $49 | | || 7 + 8 + 9 . . . $69 || Pier 2 + Night Owl 9 . . . $59 || STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX) --- * SLMR 2.1a * ... He who hesitates is frost. - Eskimo proverb --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 1702 To: ERIC HO Date: 08/25/93 10:36a Subj: Dr. Cd-rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Eric - =>In reference to Dr. Windows, Dr. Music, and Dr. Shareware: I would be interested in handling all three of your discs, but would need a dealer pricing first. Could you send a list to 1:202/1705 V.32 from 10:pm to 7:am PST. Thank you, Adrian Salas * QMPro 1.50 41-2384 * If truth is stranger than fiction, you must be truth! --- WM v3.00/91-0098 * Origin: Uni-Rom BBS - San Diego <USA> - (619) 279-4774 (1:202/920.0) (1:20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN ELFERT Number: 1703 To: MICHAEL KONOR Date: 08/25/93 6:01a Subj: scsi cdrom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00 Do you have SIX of these? Do they handle 650 meg CD-ROMS? Brian --- WM v3.01/91-0224 * Origin: The City Lights <612-633-1366> <6 LINES> <16.8 D/S> (1:282/108.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG JACKSON Number: 1704 To: NICHOLAS GOLDWYN Date: 08/25/93 6:13a Subj: RE: MITSUMI DRIVES?? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No NG>I paid Pds 149 + VAT for my Mitsumi which NG>included Photo Access software. What are the specs for your PhotoCD capable Mitsumi drive? I recently obtained a Mitsumi drive and wanted to insure PhotoCD capability (neither the manual, nor the dealer, would say). --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: Micro Message Service NCRTP (919)779-6674 TBBS 2.2M (1:151/102) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SCOTT VANZANDT Number: 1705 To: N Date: 08/26/93 1:01a Subj: ccc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No n --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Buccaneer's Harbor - Millington, Tn (901) 873-2837 - (1:123/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID BURKE Number: 1706 To: JIM CLEMENTS Date: 08/25/93 10:58p Subj: THE *GOOD* OLD DAYS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->> DB> I think there should be a HARDWARE ONLY CDROM echo ->> DB> SOFTWARE ONLY CDROM echo -> -> DB> I understand at one time CDs were a neat new item few had, but -> DB> they are getting as common as hard drives. Just a thought ;-) -> -> Lordy, it's nice to see comments like this! I started reading -> cdrom threads fairly early -- when 10 or 20 messages A WEEK -> was a busy conference. -> -> * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario ^^^ I have gotten back a lot of messages that it is a good idea, Thanks for yours. By the way... I worte a program called CRS (well the installation creats that directory and CRS starts the program) or "Cattle Registry System" that would not be what the CRS stands for hummmm guess not, just thought it interesting. -=- Dave PS: There are 1000s of CDROM DISC out there now... as little as $4. --- WM v3.01/91-0177 * Origin: CCAT BBS -=- ZyXEL 19,200 & HST,v32b (512)242-2206 (1:160/225.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACK YONG Number: 1707 To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 7:56p Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi there, I'm opening a BBS and thought a CD-ROM would be a nice offer to users, do you guys have any offers for me, or maybe some offers? --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Corner Store (604)464-0231 -14.4K- (1:153/255) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SHAUN RADER Number: 1708 To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/25/93 2:32p Subj: Norton speedcache Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No <<***** ASHWIN BIHARI wrote this on 08-23─93 {May be edited} *****>> ─>Hey everyone, please tell me what this Norton SpeedCache is, is this a ─>cache for the CD-ROM if so, does it come with Norton Utilities, or is ─>a totaly different product and how much does it cost and does it work, ─>you see I have a 350 ms 150 kb/sec Mitsumi drive and though I am ─>perfectly satisfied by it sofar, I would like to speed it up, so pleas ─>tell me what this SpeedCache is about, thanx and C-ya ─> Ashwin Norton SpeedCache is a cache system, it uses memory to speed up access to and from the hard drive and other drives. Norton SpeedCache comes with Norton Utilities, there is also a Norton SpeedCache+ that claims to "Rev-up your CD-ROM drive by more than 3000%!" that doesn't come with Norton Utilities. I don't know if this is true, but it sure sounds good! I know that the regular SpeedCache speeds up Windows by a lot! I can get into Windows in about 10 or 20 seconds faster then without the cache. I don't know how much it costs, but SpeedCache+ is over $60 (without Norton Utilities). -Shaun Rader- -Madman@Liberty.Com- 08/25/93 13:13 --- * CmpQwk 1.13 #141 * HELP, I'm being held prisoner by this BBS. --- DB 1.39/004485 * Origin: The Diamond Bar BBS - 909-923-1031 - Ontario, CA (1:218/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY HALL Number: 1709 To: BOB JENKINS Date: 08/24/93 6:59p Subj: MITSUMI QUESTION Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BJ> Being financially challenged, yet feverishly lusting over a CD-ROM BJ>my own, I have noticed the name "Mitsumi" (sp?). A few questions: BJ> BJ> 1)Will this drive function with my SB 2.0 ? BJ> 2)How much will it put me out (I'm up here in the Great White North BJ>Ottawa) ? BJ> 3)If I decided to purchase one via a U.S. mail order complny, has a BJ>from Canada doen this, and how did things go ? BJ> BJ> Thanks for the reply. BJ> BJ>--- GEcho 1.00 BJ> * Origin: Lester's Hideaway, Smiths Falls, ON (1:256/202@FIDONET.ORG) You can get, just as good a price from, most stores in Toronto. If you want I will give you the names and address of some of them. See Ya, --- * WinQwk 2.0 #0 * Unregistered Evaluation Copy --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1710 To: DON KULHA Date: 08/25/93 1:08p Subj: PAS16 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Get real Louis. I think the Panasonic double speed at it's price -> is a -> good deal but "the same features"? Not even close. You're comparing a -> 200 millisecond drive to a 320ms, a 256k internal cache to 64k, SCSI -> to proprietary 200ms to 320ms is only 33% better improvement which doesn't mean hardly as much if itwere 40ms it would be a big different. 256k cache internal? Well even 256k cache isn't enough 2 meg cache is the best to have a software cache is proven to be just as good as a software cache like norton or pckwik -> interface, a caddy drive to caddyless, forgetting the self cleaning -> optics, I like it cadyless saves me $5 each cd that I don't have to buy a caddy for. -> interface, a caddy drive to caddyless, forgetting the self cleaning -> optics, Could always buy a cleaning kit for it. -> millisecond drive to a 320ms, a 256k internal cache to 64k, SCSI to -> proprietary I like at bus better than scsi someone mentioned the performance of a scsi drive with the panasonic and it performed less than it should on scsi. -> art drive. They both have their place but the Panasonic doesn't stack -> up evenly with the Tosh by a long shot. Well 50% less in price is a big deal but it ain't worth paying double for those useless extra features if it were 600kb/sec drive then it would be worth double the price. Louis --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1711 To: BRENDAN FARTHING Date: 08/25/93 1:11p Subj: Aust. Phone Disc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Also, does anyone know the difference between the one that sells for -> about $1500.00 (I think it's called Aus On Disc) and the one that -> sells for about $50.00 (This one is called Australian Phone Disk). Well for $1500 it better be the entire yellow pages of all the countries of the world for that price otherwise it ain't worth it. Louis --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1712 To: HENDRE FALKSON Date: 08/24/93 2:03p Subj: CD-ROM AND SBPRO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >Mine has an IDE interface (SBPro + Panasonic CD drive). 40 pins does NOT an IDE interface make - the SB Pro has a PROPRIATARY interface, unique to it and to the very few Panasonic/Matsushita drives that have been specifically designed TO THAT INTERFACE. * SLMR 2.1a * What do you mean, my "Birth Certificate expired"?!? --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1713 To: JORGE VELASCO Date: 08/24/93 2:05p Subj: ZIP COPYWRITE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > >> BF> CD producers are required by LICENCE and therefore by tort > >>LAW to register their PKZIP. > >> > >> What is your basis for this claim? > > PKWare's requirements for COMMERCIAL usage of PKZIP/ > > PKUNZIP. >Do you think that PKWare isn't gonna sue yet so in the long run they can sue >more? Not likely, after the Xerox suit against Apple got thrown out for too long of a wait.... * SLMR 2.1a * Out to lunch - if not back by 5, out to dinner too. --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1714 To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/24/93 2:13p Subj: THERE ARE 2 OF US!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > CK> MYSELF! Ummm.. from what I hear, the only drives that the > CK> Soundblaster Pro will hook directly up to are the Panasonic > CK> and the Matuadkfaklfja (or some other long chinese name) > Are you thinking of Matsushita?? This is an associated company > to Panasonic...... Matsushita is the parent company of the Panasonic brand name/subsidiary (along with Technics and a few others).... * SLMR 2.1a * It's HARD to soar with eagles when you work with turkeys! --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1715 To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 08/24/93 3:04p Subj: CD-ROM INTERFACES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BF> Always IN-2000 - don't settle for lesser Adaptec stuff.... > The Always card is in no way superior to the Adaptec line. In the >first place, the IN-2000 only comes as an ISA card, no MCA or EISA support. For those of us that don't have MCA or EISA (or local bus, for that matter), the IN-2000 is an excellent choice, and FAR superior overall to any of the Adaptec stuff (especially considering relative PRICING). I have USED both - and DUMPED all of my Adaptec stuff in favor of the IN-2000. >do believe it is an ISA busmaster The IN-2000 does NOT do bus mastering - which stuff is overhyped on an ISA bus anyway due to BUS throughput limitations under DMA. >using an ISA busmaster basically limits the useful system RAM to 16 Megabytes. This IS a problem with the Adaptec stuff, which ARE Bus Mastering cards. >Also, Always has refused to produce OS/2 drivers for their card OS/2 is the only case where Adaptec works better - though I have heard good things about a third-party Allways OS/2 driver. * SLMR 2.1a * Sex is nobody's business but the 1<=N<99999 involved.... --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1716 To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 08/24/93 5:19p Subj: MITSUMI 16-BIT CARD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >Anyone know if the 16 bit controller card works with the LU-002S? It is supposed to be compatable. >and if so, how much is it It is normally only available as a bundle package with the LU005, but with the advent of the ATI and such sound cards with the Mitsumi interface built-in.... * SLMR 2.1a * If you would know a man, observe how he treats a Cat. --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1717 To: JOE SLIFER Date: 08/24/93 5:20p Subj: ADVICE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > LG> blaster 16 card. In the states its $180 U.S. for the mitsumi and $249 > LG> U.S. for the panasonic 562b >Whats the source for the 562b? Thats $30 cheaper then I've seen it. -Thank CD-ROM Source here locally carries the Panasonic 562 at $249 - likely several other dealers can match that price.... * SLMR 2.1a * NAVY: Never Again Volunteer Yourself --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1718 To: BOB JENKINS Date: 08/24/93 6:00p Subj: MITSUMI QUESTION Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > 1)Will this drive function with my SB 2.0 ? The SB Pro uses a propriatary CD-ROM interface, that is NOT compatable with the Mitsumi propriatary interface. The Mitsumi drives, however, are normally sold WITH a controller card. * SLMR 2.1a * Remember - it's this planet or Al Gore.... --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1719 To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 08/24/93 6:02p Subj: CD SPEEDWAY Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >isn't it 100ms=1 sec. NO. 1000 Milliseconds to the Second - by Metric System definition. * SLMR 2.1a * This calls for EXTREME measures! Start Electric Bagpipes! --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1720 To: BOB HALL Date: 08/24/93 6:06p Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No >I would suggest any of you to leave a message to Mr. Tony Davis, and get his >opinion. I plan to do better - Tony still plans to be at the One BBS Con, so I plan to talk to him face-to-face (likely as part of a LARGE crowd!).... >He has came forth and discussed his situation in this echo Among other places. * SLMR 2.1a * Murphy's Rule of Combat: Incomming fire has right of way --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1721 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 08/24/93 7:09p Subj: SB WITH NEC DOUBLE SPIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > RE> Well, if I install 3 Panasonic paddle cards and set the > RE> addressing correctly, yes! It just means I need a very big case! > And I can do the same with 2 SCSI controllers.....gained a slot And you have 2 "slots" left to run Hard Drives on, to boot. >I will stack my SCSI-2 CD drives performance on a SCSI-2 controller up against >anything else you care to compare it to...... And they will at best MATCH the performance of everything else, the DRM-604X excepted. > RE> When you start talking about Pioneer 6 CD drives, I start > RE> to drool, but what hobbyist has the money, unless they run > RE> a BBS and have someone subsidising them?? >Now those -are- slow..... Granted somewhat on the DRM-600A - the DRM-604X is by NO means "slow", compared to other CD-ROM drives.... * SLMR 2.1a * Annoy a Democrat - demand that they tell the Truth! --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1722 To: DAN SCHWEMLEIN Date: 08/24/93 7:10p Subj: GIF AND/OR MOD CD WANTED Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >I am looking for a CD that has all GIFs (no nudity So Much Screenware should fit this. GIFs Galore is also a good match.... * SLMR 2.1a * He's a Democrat 'cause he's too poor to be Republican. --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1723 To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/24/93 7:28p Subj: CD-ROM HELP! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >would be purely taking stabbs in the dark. I have 4 major drivers I need to >have: STACKER 48k, MTMCDE.SYS, MCDEX.EXE 144K (64 BUFFERS) and PC-CACHE 1M. Load the MSCDEX buffers into ExTENded (XMS) memory - I think that's the "/E" switch. This will save you appx. 128K that you won't need to loadhi any more.... >can't load all four of these high no matter what order they're in. I just >can't understand that because I have 4 Megs of ram. 384K of this at MOST can be used for "loading high" = and out of that 384K ALSO comes your System ROM, your Page Frame, your Video RAM, and any adapter BIOS ROMs in the system. To make it a short story, the "loadhi" address range is from the 640K DOS limit up to the 1 Meg 20-bit Real Mode address limit. * SLMR 2.1a * Hex Dump (n): where Witches put worn-out curses. --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1724 To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/24/93 7:30p Subj: NEW MPC SPECS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > GM> By the way,what's that about 640*480*65,535 cols? A SVGA card is > GM> still 256 or am I confused here? > You're confused.... An SVGA card with 1Mb on it is capable of displaying > 65,536 colours in 640x480 resolution in Windows.... Actually, cards that do more than 256 colors are generally NOT refered to as "superVGA" but more commonly "truecolor" or some such terminology.... * SLMR 2.1a * The mice may have the right but the Cat has the claws.... --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1725 To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/24/93 7:33p Subj: PRO AUDIO OR SOUNDBL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > T7G install, which a few people are using as a measure of "how fast their > CD-ROM drive is" reports on three installs I have seen :- > PAS 16/NEC CDR-55 - 300Kbps > SB16 ASP/Panasonic CR563 - 584Kbps > SB16 ASP/Panasonic CR563 - 612Kbps! (Different machine!) Try it with a SCSI drive that is doublespin for a FAIR comparison. Better yet, try it with a Pioneer DRM-604X on a FAST SCSI card like the Allways IN-2000 or Adaptec 154x - the PAS is OK, but it's SCSI interface is NOT a fast one (generally doesn't NEED to be with most CD-ROM drives).... * SLMR 2.1a * Do SCAian Rednecks have Crossbow racks in their pickups? --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 1726 To: CR HAMILTON Date: 08/25/93 7:57a Subj: Re: Night Owl 9 $25 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 23 Aug 93 21:42:58, I heard Cr Hamilton shout to Kevin Plummer: CH> Kevin Plummer wrote in a message to All: CH> KP> N i g h t O w l 9 . 0 CH> CH> Does this have the files.bbs format for use on the bbs? CH> CH> CR Yes it does. .....|<evin --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: The Softwares Zone (1:231/570) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE BENHAM Number: 1727 To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 11:20p Subj: Hitachi CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have a Hitachi CDR 3500 and when I play Audio CD's it sounds real choppy... Could this be ebcause of the 8bit controller card? I have a 486 66MHz DX2 VL-Bus machine. --- T.A.G. 2.6e8a Alpha * Origin: You mean I can't *WRITE* to this? (1:2410/116@FIDONET.ORG) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALISON COZZUBBO Number: 1728 To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 10:17p Subj: Hitachi Driver Card Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have a Hitachi CD ROM drive and card without docs. Can anybody tell me what the jumpers do on this card? The number on the card is TCD-IF8P or anything compatible. All I need to know is how to change the address of the card and the I/O port or whatever the jumpers do. Alison --- Ezycom V1.02 * Origin: The Cats Alley 203-746-5875 (1:141/975) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE TERRELL Number: 1729 To: JAMES MUNRO Date: 08/25/93 10:46p Subj: Sony driver for OS2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello James...I am running OS/2 2/1 on a Sony CDU31A CDROM drive. I too had the same problem and obtained the driver from the Comstar BBS in North Carolina at 1-704-541-0692. If you don't have any luck, send me a message and I'll try to find it and make it available on my BBS, The Phantom's Lair at 1-904-286-5575. At this time I can't seem to locate it, but while this message is going to you, I'm sure I will find it. Take care and good luck! DAVE --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Phantom's Lair BBS (1:3608/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC HO Number: 1730 To: ALL SYSOPS Date: 08/24/93 10:58p Subj: DR. CD-ROM TITLES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello BBS SysOps, Do you want to increase your file bases? Do you want to get the latest shareware programs? If your answer is "YES", please try our CD-ROM ! * Dr. Windows Vol. I ------ Applications, Icons, Utilities, Desktops , wallpaper and more.... for Windows 3.x (Released in Jun. 1993) * Dr. Music Vol. I ------ Players, converters, MIDI, WAV, VOC... for SB or compatible sound card. (Released in Jul. 1993) * Dr. Shareware Vol. I ------ The latest collections ! More than 600MB. Includes Windows NT, OS/2 2.1, RA2.x, communication, clipart, programming, database, business, utilities, BBS Door, Windows, Wordprocessors..... 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CD-ROMs are BBS ready(w/full description, files.bbs). * For more information, please F'req ACES.ZIP at 1:143/88 or 408-453-6250 * ACES.ZIP contains full description and file list. * F'req before you place the order. --- * Origin: Bank of GIFs, Dr. Image BBS 408-453-6250 14.4K (1:143/88) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ASHMAN Number: 1731 To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 8:46p Subj: CDROM/PHOTOCD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone know of a recommended CDROM drive for and AMIGA 3000 system that is compatible with Kodacks PhotoCD... i would like to get more info on this option nowadays... You could actually go shoot 36 Picture with your high quality 35mm camera and have it Developed to PhotoCD and then import these major HIGH QUALITY IMAGES to 24 bit programs... Instead of Scanning... Sounds interesting.. I heard XTEC supports this... Any info appreciated..? --- Star-Net v1.02 * Origin: ImageNet * Coventry,RI * (401)822-3060 HST (1:323/115.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BETH CORRIGAN Number: 1732 To: DIANE PENCIL Date: 08/24/93 10:57a Subj: kodak photo CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No hi diane unfortunatly the wall mart near me doesnt do the photo cds but im trying to get the address for kodak to ask them about it! ill keep tryin! Beth --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: The BlackMarket (508)682-0133, 3 Gig+, CD-Rom, Adult, Midi (1:324/115) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 1733 To: JOSH PICHE Date: 08/24/93 11:14p Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Well Josh, I got the latest InterAction Magazine and it said nothing really in depth about what might be on the CD-ROM version of that game, in an ariticle consercing Police Quest 4, they explained what it was going to be about and then at the end of the article in the last paragraph it said that there will also be a CD-ROM version of that game, but they didn't tell in what ways the CD-ROM version is better than the regular version, I will keep you posted on any new things on it. C-ya and write back. Ashwin --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Just when I was getting the hang of hard drives.... (1:324/119) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1734 To: VID KID Date: 08/26/93 2:18a Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Boris on the DRM 604X when you say bare. Do you mean without >> cables & software? I have seen a few places offering the same >> but they include the cables and software. What Scsi II >> controllers are available for that drive that come with the >> drivers for it? When we say bare, we mean you get the drive, magazine, drivers, RCA cables, power cable and manual. If you can find a company that is also offering the SCSI shielded cable for the same price as we offer our unit's for, I suggest you better grab one fast as our price's are lower than most dealers can by them at. As for SCSI controllers, you can just about use any SCSI controller, but you will need to make sure that it offers support drivers for cdrom systems. Also, if you elect to purchase the DMR604X, it is HIGHLY recommended that you install the system onto a 16 bit controller and NOT an 8 bit, due to the quad spin and high transfer rate an 8 bit controller will give out drive not ready and or crc error readings. If you need further information, please feel free to call us at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist you further. Boris Osadciw ... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1735 To: ANTON SWART Date: 08/26/93 2:18a Subj: Re: red hot lot... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Yo .... >> no 1 u mumbled... ->> Kings Quest 7 is now out and available !! >> What does that mean! If u have it i'd like it! Yes, it is in stock ! >> S00 Right now i would like ONLY IF ITS G00d!! honest oppinion!: >> Gameware >> Definiytevly Kings Quest 6 & 7 Have all of the above in stock and yes Kings Quest VI is an excellent game. >> CCould u give me the individual prices coz i dont wanna waste >> fax.... I will try to netmail you a more detailed answer! >> thanx cheers! Chat with you soon.... Boris Osadciw ... Happy as a Pig in Mud! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1736 To: BRENDAN FARTHING Date: 08/26/93 2:18a Subj: Re: Aust. Phone Disc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Has anyone used the Australian Phone Book CD ? >> Also, does anyone know the difference between the one that >> sells for about $1500.00 (I think it's called Aus On Disc) and >> the one that sells for about $50.00 (This one is called >> Australian Phone Disk). >> The one that sells for $50 contains the entire Yellow and >> White Pages for every state in Australia. >> Why is there such a HUGE price difference between that disk >> and the $1500.00 one ?????? Simple! The one for $1500. offers an up to date database, while the other one ( Phone Disk ) is nothing more than scans from the phone book, which can mean you would get a lot of " This number has been disconnected " messages. Also, Aus On Disk offers a more features than does Phone Disk. As they say, you get what you pay for! Hope this helps.... Boris Osadciw ... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1737 To: MANESH RAMA Date: 08/26/93 2:18a Subj: Re: encyclopedia's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> hey, i wuz wondering if anyone can get me a cheap encylcopedia >> cd for about under $50 or how bout a trade. >> for somthing >> thanx >> later >> im desperate i need one. >> i kinda' gave mine away. >> oh and how good is a groliers encylcopedia We have both Groilers for DOS or Windows and their priced at $50. each. If your interested, please feel free to give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to assist you further. Boris Osadciw ... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 1738 To: CHRIS BOURNE Date: 08/23/93 3:05p Subj: CSS CD Price List Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Do you match prices? --- FreeMail 1.07b * Origin: The Outer-Limits (618) 439-9629 * HST/V32 * (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANE PENCIL Number: 1739 To: DON SPROUL Date: 08/24/93 11:10p Subj: Gravis Ultrasound Card and CD-Rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I have a Mitsumi CD-Rom and I have an Gravis Ultrasound card that > emulates a Soundblaster by software. My audio is very choppy and video > with audio is choppy as well. Video alone is fine. I am using port > 220, and IRQ 5 for the > sound card, and I am using port 300 and IRQ 10 for the CD-Rom drive. > Can anyone PLEASE help me. I don't want to change my sound card again. > I like the Gravis, and it hasn't given me any problems until now. Been using th eGravis card for over a year with no problems including 7th guest. I have mine in a system that has a Texel drive on it however. I set my Gravis card to Irq 7 which seems to work fine. I also have 2 serial ports, parallel port, an Orchid Farenheit VA/VLB card which grabs a sound interrupt (I think IRQ 5), a scanner and the gravis card. With all that stuff it still manages to work ok. Might try changing your IRQ. Also are you running the newest SBOS software? That makes a BIG difference in it's ability to run compatibly. Diane Pencil --- FMail 0.92 * Origin: The Computer Recyclery for Used Equipment (513)236-3448 (1:110/150) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREGORY MATYJA Number: 1740 To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 12:40a Subj: Help w/2 soundcards and cdrom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I recently bought a fusion16 cdrom kit and was wondering if it is possible to get the cdrom to work with the SB Pro and the PAS 16 card in at the same time. The only problem I encounter is the CD-rom starts adding/changing characters with data cds. (Audio CDs work normal) I have tried changing the interupts and DMAs on both cards, but have had no luck fixing the prob. Greg Matyja --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Hard Drive Cafe - USR 16.8 D/S - (216)668-2572 - (1:157/619) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEPHEN KOVACSISS Number: 1741 To: ANDREW SEE Date: 08/25/93 9:17p Subj: EXPLAIN SOUND CARDS TO ME Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No AS}Who told you that? The GUS does "true" 16 bit playback, at sample rates up }to 60 kHz. It has 16-bit playback with up to 44.1 kHz sample rates. Stephen * 1st 1.11 * It takes courage to innovate, not imitate. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CanCom BBS - Canton, OH (1:157/629) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC SCHONNING Number: 1742 To: NIGEL ZETT Date: 08/25/93 11:22a Subj: Re: MSCDEX Command Line Options Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No NZ> Sorry to bring this one up again, but I recall reading a few messages NZ> weeks about the MSCDEX command line options (both documented and NZ> undocumented). I went to look for the message again and it was gone ( NZ> were actually). NZ> Could someone please run down a list of ALL options, their parameters NZ> uses? And no, the skimpy docs that came with my MSCDEX update (from F NZ> Domain) DON'T list them at all, just a "recommended set-up line". if you are running dos 6.00 just type HELP MSCDEX --- QM v1.00 * Origin: Creekside Manor (805) 484-8016 16.8k DS CdCom Support BBS (1:206/2512.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RON YOUNG Number: 1743 To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/22/93 6:52p Subj: Re: Wanted cable texel - pas- Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message dated 19-Aug-93 02:03:07, Boris Osadciw wrote: BO> >> I need a cable to go between mr Texel CD-ROM and my PAS-16? BO> Yep, in stock and priced at $15. You have them for a Texel/SBPro for audio? Ron young --- Xenolink 1.0 Z.3, EmacsXL.4 * Origin: Amys' Place - [419-691-0279] - Toledo OH (1:234/22) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WEE YUNG Number: 1744 To: MICHEL ROMY Date: 08/22/93 8:22a Subj: Panasonic 562b Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MR>Can anyone give me the spec. of the Panasonic 562B CD-Rom MR>drive ? is it internal or external ? transfer rate, ... MR>And if it is internal, does an external version exist ? price ? It is internal drive, multisession and kodak Photo CD compatible. CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$279. MIDI cable for any sound card with Joystick port...............$19. Price does not included shipping. Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC 16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra * OLX 2.1 TD * voice 310-602-2076.8am-12pm,6pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240 *** Maximus 2.00 * Origin: Long_Island RB (310) 370-4113 VAX EC (HST 16.8K/V32b) (1:102/138) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID M. WHITE Number: 1745 To: DUANE ELLISON Date: 08/24/93 9:43a Subj: Cd-rom Bundles Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DE> Card, and software bundle such as the Fusion CD 16. I was DE> curious what DE> people think of these bundles and of the hardware included I was also looking at the Fusion 16 package, however I found out it is an 800ms drive that is not Kodak ready so have decided against it. If you have a "Software Etc." store near you, they have that package priced at $399. *** GEcho 1.00/beta+ * Origin: Old Pueblo BBS - Tucson Computer Society 602-744-2314 (1:300/2) --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: MIDNIGHT CRUISER from the starship Enterprise! [214]241-6805 (1:124/1019.1912) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DERIK MINNICH Number: 1746 To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 5:58p Subj: Sanyo CD-ROM drive. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi everone! I am searching for someone who has been around CD-ROM's for a LONG time. I have a Sanyo CD ROM drive which I bought used. It works mechanically but I need to find a driver for it. So far I have been able only to find out that Sanyo made the drive for only a short time. It is a SCSI drive and I need to find out who made a controller that supported it. If anyone has ANY info they can give me, I would be extremely grateful. The drive Model # is ROM-2501U and was made in February 1988. Thanks, Derik Minnich --- ProBoard v1.31 [Reg] * Origin: CANDI LAND BBS, MONROE, MI (313)243-6689 (1:2380/120) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 1747 To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 7:09p Subj: CD Caddies Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Who has the best price on new cd caddies? Steve ... 313-242-8792 --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 * Origin: CANDI LAND BBS, MONROE, MI (313)243-6689 (1:2380/120.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON PUGH Number: 1748 To: AUSTRALIANS Date: 08/23/93 3:04p Subj: Affordable cd-roms Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No AUSTRALIA The following disks are available from: Don Pugh, CDROM SUPPORT BBS 17 Irvine St Peppermint Grove, West Australia 6011 PH 09-384-9043 BBS Data 09-383-4925 (Fidonet 3:690/750) Night Owl 9 $49.00 Seventh Guest $89.00 Super ClipART $19.00 PC-SIG Games $39.00 Super Games for Windows $19.00 Circa Windows $29.00 Simtel-20 1992 $19.00 GIGA Games $39.00 For Affordable CD-roms in Australia: Credit Cards Accepted --- msgedsq 2.2b * Origin: CD_ROM SUPPORT BBS,(3:690/750) Perth, 10Gb Files (3:690/750) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY STOTT Number: 1749 To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/25/93 7:44a Subj: Price Confusion Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 08-21-93, Mike Avila elucidated to Rowan Evans: MA>*** Quoting Rowan Evans to Joel Dumas dated 08-18-93 *** MA>> MA>> A dealer tried to interest me in a PAS 16/Texel... They wanted over MA>> $1300.00 for the combo and, (they also sold the SB kit!) when SHOWN MA>WOW! That is an outragous price. I got the Texel drive and the Rowan (and everyone else too), can I gently suggest that due to this being an international echo, we all include the symbol for the currency we are referring to when we quote a dollar amount? Common abbreviations are as follows:- Australian $ AUD or A$ US $ USD or US$ Canadian $ CAN or CAN$ There appears to be many messages where the different currencies used without being indentified as such create misunderstanding. Thanks --- ■ WinQwk 2.0 B4 #220 ■ I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.. --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Coastal Communications Multiline BBS (02)977-6820 (3:714/906) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOEL DUMAS Number: 1750 To: PAUL NUSBAUM Date: 08/26/93 1:42a Subj: Re: CD-Rom kit Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Paul Nusbaum to Josh Piche <=- JP> That sounds great. I'm really considering getting a CD JP> Rom, but it's kind of tough to make a decision. For JP> instance, I don't know if it's really worth it to spend JP> extra cash for this multispin technology. Plus, these PN> I don't know a lot about CD ROMS to be honest, but from what I PN> have heard, the multispin technology could be a big feature in the PN> near future, one that would make it worth buying now. I haven't used PN> the full advantages of the drive yet so I can't say for sure, though. What's a multi-spin, multi-session CDROM? --- Blue Wave/Max v2.11 [NR] * Origin: "Lightning BBS, Perth WA, +61-9-344-7199 (4 lines)" (3:690/602) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAURIE BATT Number: 1751 To: SUNNY HUI Date: 08/24/93 8:38a Subj: Double speed Cd-Rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No G'day Sunny, In a message on <Aug 21>, you said : SH> Everbody, I would like to know that whether that the speed SH> of the CPU(386/486) will affect the performance of the SH> CD-Rom. It is because I would like to purchase a CD-Rom but SH> I don't know if one of my old 386 can handle... Thank You! Dont worry about it. CDROM will work on almost any machine. My first CDROM about 4 years ago ran on a 286 with no problem. My present CDROM has at times been used on a 286 a 386 and 486 Laurie --- msgedsq 2.2b * Origin: The PNG Connection, Cairns,Tropical Nth Qld, OZ (3:640/532) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAURIE BATT Number: 1752 To: MIKE AVILA Date: 08/24/93 8:51a Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No G'day Mike, In a message on <Aug 21>, you said : MA> *** Quoting Rowan Evans to Joel Dumas dated 08-18-93 *** >> >> A dealer tried to interest me in a PAS 16/Texel... They >> wanted over $1300.00 for the combo and, (they also sold the >> SB kit!) when SHOWN MA> WOW! That is an outragous price. I got the Texel drive and MA> the PAStudio16 at different times but from the same place MA> and total cost including shipping was under $750 (don't MA> remember EXACT amount). Matter of a fact I believe it was MA> just under $725. You obviously didnt realise that Rowan and Joel are both in Australia $750 US dollars converts to about $1100 Ozzie Dollars, add the import duty/sales tax and that brings to around $1300 Laurie --- msgedsq 2.2b * Origin: The PNG Connection, Cairns,Tropical Nth Qld, OZ (3:640/532) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANDRE QUEREE Number: 1753 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/25/93 10:03a Subj: 7TH GUEST. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Andre Queree <=- > AQ> PS. It's a shame that Americans don't realise that not everyone > AQ> uses NTSC video. > PB> Does that mean we won't be able to get PAL video's here? >That's right! And also, we are legally not allowed to copy the NTSC tape to >PAL format - even for our own use - as that would infringe copyright! BF> Wrong - as long as you don't DISTRIBUTE such a copy to anyone else, BF> you DO have the right to make such a copy. You should take a closer look at my tag line, and I should be more specific - it IS illegal in Australia to make a copy of your own video tapes, audio tapes, LPs and CDs for any use whatsoever. There was a lot of controversy here recently as a lot of people were confused over this issue, but it was cleared up in a very simple statement which said it WAS ILLEGAL. Making any sort of copy infringes basic copyright laws - I would suggest you check closer to find out what the laws in you country and state are. Most people here still think its OK to copy their CDs to tape to listen to in the car - I guess it's just a convenient understanding of the law. It is also illegal to make backup copies of computer software unless it is specifically stated in the software's license agreement. >It's a shame the Americans think they are the only people in the world!! BF> It's a shame that Europe is the ONLY part of the world that still BF> clings to the incompatable-with-everything PAL standard.... As I said, you should take a closer look at my tag line - PAL is in use in a lot more places than just Europe. It offers higher picture resolution (and therefore better quality) and is just as compatible with other formats as NTSC is (ie. not at all). And what do you mean "we still cling"? PAL is a more recent format than NTSC! It would seem that the NTSC users were "still clinging" to old formats!! Catch ya' later! Andre ... Al, I just leaped into a tagline. What does Ziggy have to say? ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.11 --- EzyQwk V1.02 * Origin: 500cc F1 BBS - 4 Gigs, 10 V32Bis Lines, 02-5504317 (3:712/218) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SCOTT GOLBY Number: 1754 To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 08/24/93 3:52p Subj: CD Rom Requirements Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi there, RP> Now I plan to run OS/2 v2.1 on this system and I am thinking about a RP> CD-Rom drive and maybe even a sound card. Now my question is, what kind RP> of CD-Rom drive and adaptors do I need to get to be compatible with my RP> IDE hard drive and OS/2? Please help me A.S.A.P. Thanks! I haven't heard of anything that would confict with your IDE drives, if something did it would probably drive the makers out of business very quickly! :-) There are a whole heap of SCSI cards and CD-ROMs that are supported by OS/2 straight out of the box, as well as the Sound Blaster and PAS Audio cards. I have the SBPro + CD-ROM kit, while OS/2 2.1 does not have drivers for the CD-ROM staight out of the box its just a matter of downloading the driver from you local BBS or Creative Labs and putting it on the install floppy and adding it to the startup. The quite neat thing is OS/2 see the driver there and installs it over to the hard drive. I didn't have any problem then installing the OS/2 CD-ROM version off the SBPro + CD-ROM combo. 'C' ya... Scott Golby sgolby@st.nepean.uws.edu.au * KWQ/2 1.0C * --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: INFOcentre BBS, Penrith, Over 2 Gig, (047) 36 6263 (3:713/616) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HURLEY Number: 1755 To: DON SPROUL Date: 08/25/93 12:12p Subj: Gravis Ultrasound Card an Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DS>I have a Mitsumi CD-Rom and I have an Gravis Ultrasound card that emulates a >Soundblaster by software. My audio is very choppy and video with audio is >choppy as well. Video alone is fine. I am using port 220, and IRQ 5 for >the What software are you trying to run? And which Mitsumi do you have? If it's the 600ms 150k version that is your problem. I have the same thing here and can't run 7th Guest and Sherlock Holmes pauses for .5sec every 5-10sec. My solution is to get a 280ms 300kb drive. I'll have mine on order just as soon as I get back from vacation in Sept. Brian * OLX 2.2 * ALT1.BBS: Fatal error at F000:DEAD, dropping...(click) --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: Bread Board * 214-617-8259 * (1:124/5147) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD BEEBE Number: 1756 To: ANDREW BELL Date: 08/18/93 11:00p Subj: looking.. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No AB=>I'm looking for a CD-Rom.. Must be BBS door compatible AB=>should contain Graphics, Sound, And Grsaphic & sound I have one I would sell you. Its filled with sound(.ROL,.WAV,.MOD etc) and graphics(.PCX, .GIF, etc) about 650 megs. Includes utilities too. You can call me voice at 402-470-3443 or netmail 1:285/209 if your interested and want more details. Thanks. --- Ezycom V1.02 06fa0011 * Origin: DreamScape International BBS(402)470-2264 16.8K (1:285/209) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE ROGERS Number: 1757 To: GIL GOLDFINCH Date: 08/22/93 5:12p Subj: CABLES- DRIVE TO SOUNDCRD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GG>the SCSI interface driver for an NEC CDR55 player and an audio cable GG>between the CD and sound card. Thanks for the advice though. Any further GG>help would be appreciated. Yup, Those drive to soundcard cables have been almost impossible to find. I started looking for a source for them almost 2 years ago, and they seemed to be non-existant. But I now can get these sound cables for almost any combinations of drives and sound cards. I'll check to see for sure your drive and sound card are on my cable list tomorrow after I get to work at the store. (I'll look back at your note to be sure, but what sound card do you have?) Oh, I think the price is $9.50 I'll let ya know. _______ -<SAR>- CD ROM World (402)434-2908 --- WM v3.00/92-0084 * Origin: Flite-Line Lincoln, NE. 402-421-1171 (ZyXEL) (1:285/203.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ROBERTSON Number: 1758 To: RAY DYER Date: 08/23/93 10:27p Subj: BBS Shareware CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi, Ray! Saw your note about Night Owls 9, we carry it here in Vancouver for $50 CAnadian. No import hassles, and have lots in stock. Leave me a note or netmail for order, we take Visa, M/C or cheques all at par. No charge for mail to sysops. :-# --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: John's Jukes Tech BBS Voice(604)872-5757 FAX 872-8073 (1:153/7080) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ROBERTSON Number: 1759 To: DON SPROUL Date: 08/23/93 10:32p Subj: Gravis Ultrasound Card and CD-Rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi, Don! Recently you asked... DS> Hi, DS> I have a Mitsumi CD-Rom and I have an Gravis DS> software. My audio is very choppy and video with DS> audio is choppy as well. Video alone is fine. I am DS> using port 220, and IRQ 5 for the DS> Gravis, and it hasn't given me any problems until now. Could you try adjusting the MSCDEX buffers, say to 15 or 31 or possibly 61, this may help otherwise you might try a cache program to smooth the data transfer out a bit. An easy way to tell if your drive is the problem is to see if the light is on continuously or if it flickers on/off with the sound/video problems. Also what CD are you trying to run, 7th Guest doesn't work well on the Mitsumi! :-# --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: John's Jukes Tech BBS Voice(604)872-5757 FAX 872-8073 (1:153/7080) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY RASA Number: 1760 To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 7:36p Subj: Shareware for CD's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: All Shareware CDROM Publishers If you are interested in receiving shareware direct from the author, please post an address where you'd like a disk to be sent, or a BBS phone number where uploads can be posted. Randy Rasa --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta-'e' * Origin: COLOSSUS ]II[ Sys. 10gig, 12 lines, 913-897-6667 (1:280/35) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 1761 To: CR HAMILTON Date: 08/24/93 5:27p Subj: Big Sky ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CH>What kind of prices do you get on these? And are they ready for bbs use >(i.e, files.bbs in each subdirectory?) I run Maximus, and just got a >Panasonic w/ SCSI card, and am trying to determine the best way to >proceed... Big Sky is now selling for $26 plus shipping. It is BBS ready with the files.bbs in each directory. If you have any questions, just give me a call. Thanks. Computer Works Jim... CD-Rom Sales! (205) 793-4481 Voice (205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders --- FreeMail 1.08b * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 1762 To: STEPHEN WALSH Date: 08/26/93 11:53a Subj: CDROM Drive wanted.. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SW> WANTED: SW> I URGENTLY require a NEC CDR-80 cdrom SCSI drive. Please SW> E-Mail me if you have one for sale or know of someone that SW> does... I have one but unfortunately it will cost you $200 BUT you get a free NEC cdr-80 drive with it. <g> --- timEd/B8 * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 1763 To: MAHMUT KURSUN Date: 08/26/93 12:00p Subj: Nightowl 9 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Mahmut Kursun wrote in a message to all: MK> If you master a CDROM, check it out closer. Next mail is a MK> What-to-do-list You made many very good suggestions. I would suggest you make a cd and find out how easy these suggestions are to implement.<G> --- timEd/B8 * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON SCHMIDT Number: 1764 To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 08/24/93 9:08a Subj: Medical Advice Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SR> I asked before, but didn't receive an answer so I'll try again. SR> I'm looking for a CD that has a complete listing of drugs and SR> prescriptions and those that conflict or should not be taken SR> with each other, etc. In a calalog (Late Summer 1993) put out by TigerSoftware, (800) 888-4437, lists the following CD on page 17: The Family Doctor $49.90: A practical, extensive medical guide offering answers to nearly 1,500 commonmly asked health questions. Includes national support group listings, educational resources and data on prescritptions drugs. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This doesn't sound as complete as "The Pharmasist" but it might be of some value. You might contact the company that puts out the Parmasist and see if they plan a CD version. Or, ask your local real life pharmasist to see what might be available. Or, the publishers of such books covering the information you want. [MTN_QWK 1.0]- *** From sunny Vancouver, USA *** --- WM v3.00/92-0634 * Origin: DON'T PANIC! Resistance is USELESS! 206-573-9411 (1:105/107.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1765 To: BRANDON RICKERSON Date: 08/25/93 10:55p Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I have both of the Wing Commander games on CD. Its great but I re -> don't have a fast CD-ROM drive but its still great. Live long and pro What drive do you have? I have a Mitsumi. I LOVED W.C. I even without the mission disks... The CD versions are woth it just for the price difference of buying it all separately... --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0051] * Origin: This Old House * D.S. 16.8 * Tacoma Wa (1:138/173) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1766 To: ROBERT HAWORTH Date: 08/25/93 6:50a Subj: New Roland Compat Sound C Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No What exactly is this card? Is it the Turtle Beach one? * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377 --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0051] * Origin: This Old House * D.S. 16.8 * Tacoma Wa (1:138/173) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1767 To: ZORAN ANANIJEV Date: 08/25/93 6:55a Subj: SB16ASP+WBLASTER Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> 1. What is the best MOD playing program for this unit? I've seen the -> comes with the PAS16 and it definately sounds better than anything fo -> the best I have used so far is Dual Module Player. I use WOWII. I couldn't get DMP to work, I think it would be the best but I think my board isn't 'seen' by it. -> 2. How do you get the MT32 emulation to work on games that support th -> W/Blaster has the relevant .CBK files and I even load them manually b -> I get into a game still no go is there a driver or something I am mis -> -> The games are Strike Commander, MPS Grand Prix, X-Wing, Dune2...they -> have options for either SB+MT32 or SB+Roland or MT32 on its own. I didn't know you could emulate the MT-32. The options you listed are for SB AND MT-32. SB for digitized speach and F/X MT-32 for EXCELLENT music! Have you ever heard a MT-32? I don't think it is available anymore. (Been replaced by better one CM-32L I think) When it was it was about $500 by itself... Hope I was of some help :) Henry * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377 --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0051] * Origin: This Old House * D.S. 16.8 * Tacoma Wa (1:138/173) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1768 To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 08/25/93 7:02a Subj: Re: Cd-rom help! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> 1998848 bytes free EMS memory -> -> 2031616 bytes total XMS memory -> 2031616 bytes available XMS memory -> 0 bytes available contiguous extended memory -> DOS resident in High Memory Area -> High Memory Area in use -> -> Unlike with QEMM, if I were to use, say, 16M of that EMS memo -> would still have the 20M of XMS available. OF course, if I wanted to -> graphics in this window, I could have about 696K free, instead of 632 -> What's more, all of my other DOS sessions could still use graphics! -> this is available with an 850 Meg C: drive, a Pioneer DRM-604X six pa Are you saying you have over 40mb of memory? The numbers you list show about 2.5mb each, did you get your numbers crossed? I do sometimes. I saw a guy in HS modems even that said he had a 12000 modem, I think he meant 1200. * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377 --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0051] * Origin: This Old House * D.S. 16.8 * Tacoma Wa (1:138/173) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1769 To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/25/93 7:12a Subj: Kings Quest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Not yet. It's just sitting in my drawer, still in its shrinkwrap. I -> it at a swap meet, and later it occurred to me that it's probably a u -> that someone shrinkwrapped, so I'm hosed. Sometime when I get extra -> I'll open it up and look at the install/readme's. (The thing I bough -> shrink wrapped jewl case.) I suppose I need manuals to work it? If it is copy=protected you do, though who would be DUMB enought to copy protect a CD-ROM? It's not like you can just 'put' it on your hard drive or nothing. hehehe! The manuals are all of about $5 I believe. You can call at 1-209-683-4468 to see what gives. * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377 --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0051] * Origin: This Old House * D.S. 16.8 * Tacoma Wa (1:138/173) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON ELKINS Number: 1770 To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 08/26/93 2:16a Subj: CD-ROM Disks in Canada Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey, I know this is a REALLY late reply to a message, but I've been looking for a Catalog for good CD-ROM software, b/c I am soon-to-be Sysop of a Galveston area board. I have CD-ROM capacity, and would greatly appreciate the catalog, if you don't mind. My address: Jason Elkins 706 Duroux Rd. LaMarque, TX 77568 (409)935-2301 THANX!! --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Beacon Terra One -OS/2- (1:386/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON FLETCHER Number: 1771 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/24/93 10:37a Subj: BIBLES & RELIGION Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MS>Sorry Keith, our special purchase stock is gone on those, but they are MS>in stock again at the regular price of $13.00. Mike, Do you also have "Shakespeare" at a good price. If so, will order both. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: C.F.O.N.J. TBBS 2.2M - All HST 16.8/V.32B 908-486-2956 (1:107/932) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEVIN WOOD Number: 1772 To: THOSE IN THE KNOW Date: 08/26/93 12:51p Subj: NEC CDR-84 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I've been considering this drive. I have a concern though. I'm a quadriplegic and can't move my fingers. I need a drive with a caddy so I don't ruin my CDs. I'm trying to find out about the doors. Needing to use both hands to insert ther disk, I won't be able to hold a door open while I do it. How are the doors set up? It's hard for me to get out to see for myself. Would anyone recommend another drive with similar features that they consider superior? Thanks, Devin * SLMR 2.1a * --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Your source for TBBS enhancement software! (1:322/360) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VINCE SORENSEN Number: 1773 To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 1:02p Subj: CANADIAN CD-ROM SOURCE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Night Owl 9... order your copy today from the CD-ROM WHOLESALERS! Now just $35 Cdn including all applicable taxes for a limited time **PLUS** Order any other disc at the regular price, and receive a mystery 640 Meg Shareware disc absolutely free! ------------------CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA------------------ 306-789-4654 Voice Mailing address (please include 306-789-8690 Fax $2 S/H per disc): 6 Armstrong Bay, 306-789-8682 Online Ordering Regina, Sk. Canada S4N 4G7 This offer may not be combined with any coupons or other specials. --- The Mail Box [NR] * Origin: SUPERBOARD/CD-ROM WHOLESALERS (306)789-8682 (1:140/121) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VINCE SORENSEN Number: 1774 To: RAY DYER Date: 08/25/93 1:03p Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Ray! $75 for Night Owl 9? If you can't find one of our authorized dealers in the Toronto area, give us a call. Its worth trying mail order out, if its going to save you $40+. You'd pay $75 + 8% Ontario Sales Tax + 7% G.S.T. through that store ($86.25). With us, you pay $37. Period. All applicable taxes included. Shipping included. You receive it in 2-3 days. If you buy *any* other disc from us along with that Night Owl, you'll receive Shareware Studio for the cost of the shipping and handling (free+$2). I've been a retail customer. I've been a mail order customer. I've paid high prices, and I've had 1 1/2 month waits for mail ordered discs to arrive from the U.S. That's why I'm here - because I knew there had to be a better way for Canadians like myself. Give us a call at 306-789-4654, and we'll make *sure* that you never want to go anywhere else. Vince --- The Mail Box [NR] * Origin: SUPERBOARD/CD-ROM WHOLESALERS (306)789-8682 (1:140/121) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BERNARD SAVONET Number: 1775 To: OLIVER BLADEK Date: 08/24/93 8:06p Subj: Mscdex v2.22 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ML] OB> 'mscd001 ') When I type the specs for the CD it's ML] OB> c:\sb16\drv\mscdex.exe /d:mscd001 /m:5 /d: ML] OB> It replies with incorrect DOS version. I have an ASI 486/33SX ]and is using DOS 6.0 and Windoze 3.1 Thanx in advance TTYl ML]how about using setver.exe ??? Oliver, Have you tried to use the Mscdex in your \DOS directory (instead of the one in \sb16\drv) with exactly the same parameters? I did that on my machine and it did work instantly. REMARK: According to several mails in this conference, it seems that you need setver anyway. I was using it already, so cannot really confirm. Good luck! Bernard * OLX 2.2 * Damn this hobby is expensive --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: Li'LL BBS - Paris France - (33-1) 43.07.40.97 (2:320/7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FEDERICO MUNOZ PENA Number: 1776 To: CARLOS FERNANDEZ SANZ Date: 08/19/93 8:59p Subj: i didn't know ! Sorry ! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I'm Sorry, i didn't know i have to write in English, My Sysop Told me after the message was sent. But I promise not to do so again ! Atte. Federico Alejandro Muñoz Peña --- * Origin: MegaLink BBS, Chihuahua, Mexico! +52-(14)-10-36-29 (4:971/7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FEDERICO MUNOZ PENA Number: 1777 To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 08/19/93 9:02p Subj: Conectar CR-ROM MITSUMI A Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Estimado Adrian : I never receive your answer, I do not know why ! But I'm glad you write me, i hope you can send me a copy of your last answer, I will apreciate that ! I'm not so good writting in English, correct me if i'm wrong. Thanks. Federico Alejandro Muñoz Peña --- * Origin: MegaLink BBS, Chihuahua, Mexico! +52-(14)-10-36-29 (4:971/7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 1778 To: FEDERICO MUNOZ PENA Date: 08/25/93 8:40p Subj: Conectar Cr-Rom Mitsumi A Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No FMP:>Estimado Adrian : FMP:>I never receive your answer, I do not know why ! But I'm glad you write m FMP:>i hope you can send me a copy of your last answer, I will apreciate that ! FMP:>I'm not so good writting in English, correct me if i'm wrong. FMP:>Thanks. FMP:>Federico Alejandro Muñoz Peña I have a Mitsumi what do you need to connect? * QMPro 1.02 41-1025 * 5¼ floppy is not better than 3½ hard. --- * Origin: Creaturas de la Noche *IDS* [Monterrey México] (4:971/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC HO Number: 1779 To: ARNIE GROSS Date: 08/25/93 6:59p Subj: Re: Dr. Cd-rom Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No > In reference to Dr. Windows, Dr. Music, and Dr. Shareware: > Country Fair Software would be interested in handling all > three of your discs, but would need to talk to you about > dealer pricing first. Sure, No problem. Dealers are welcomed. > You neglected to post a voice phone number in your ad. Thanks. You can call me at 510-683-8855 (9:00 to 18:00 Pacific Time) or Fax at 510-683-8875. Eric --- * Origin: Bank of GIFs, Dr. Image BBS 408-453-6250 14.4K (1:143/88) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG ISOKRARI Number: 1780 To: ROLAND LAROCQUE Date: 08/25/93 7:18p Subj: Magnavox cdd 461 cd-r Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No You sent me mail about helping me with my CD ROM a few days ago today is 8-25... Thanks but I really didn't have any problems with it. Trying to find some good CD's to put on it that aren't too expensive right now. Wouldn't mind used CD's but really haven't come across anything I trust... --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Pearl Jam vs Magnum One.. <OKC,OK> *405*755*1372* (1:147/2112) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE WARWICK Number: 1781 To: NICHOLAS GOLDWYN Date: 08/26/93 3:51p Subj: Re: Mitsumi Controller Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No OK...Thanks for taking the time to reply. Best regards from Deer Valley, Az. :-) --- GOMail v1.2 [DEMO] 09-15-93 * Origin: The DESERT BBS HST-DS 16.8 (602)942-1584 (1:114/253) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE ROY Number: 1782 To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 11:51p Subj: Night Owl 9 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! Night Owl 9 for sale $40.00 CDN + postage. reply here, thanks Cheers, Steve --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Serendipity BBS, BC Canada (604) 599-3820 (1:153/916) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RON FINDLING Number: 1783 To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/23/93 8:04p Subj: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > RF> Regarding multimedia, for example, it's apparently very difficult > RF> under Windows to synchronize full motion video and speech, whereas > RF> under OS/2 it's relatively easy. > I'll have to check my Windows 3.1 SDK! OS/2 also has a lot more MM stuff than Windows, not just a full-motion video player, a CD-ROM music player, but even a laser-VIDEOdisc player. You have to pay big extra buck$ to get the equivalent functionality with Windows... Read one of the most recent BYTE issues for a comparision re: Windows vs. OS/2 multimedia... OS/2 easily comes out on top. ======================================================================== > Well, I find it interesting that the OS/2 2.1 GA doesn't have some of the > CD-ROM drivers, you have to pull them off a support BBS.... It's not reasonable for any OS to include ALL the drivers for EVERYTHING it supports, new ones are constantly coming out, and OS/2 comes on enough disks anyways. ___ X SLMR 2.1a X Projection: By 2010, we'll ALL be working for Microsoft. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: DaTaCoRp (1:353/730) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NICK FUNK Number: 1784 To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 6:43a Subj: Panasonic 562 & Pro Studio 16 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone know if the new ProAudio Studio 16 by MediaVision SCSI port will work with the Panasonic CR-562 double speed drive. An if so are the drivers included with the sound card. Any information is greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!11 --- msgedsq 2.1 * Origin: LaPlace, LA Point (1:396/61.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1785 To: SHANNON BLACKBURN Date: 08/25/93 1:11p Subj: JEMDISC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >Yes, the files are explicit in comparison to the rest of the disk (full frontal >nudity and so forth). His descriptions of the files are accurate. >By the way, you do not need a Macintosh computer to view *.MAC files; all you >need is a viewer such as CompuShow (CSHOW). AllMac works much better overall on .MAC files than CSHOW.... * SLMR 2.1a * The Meadow Party in '96! --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1786 To: SIMEON CRAN Date: 08/25/93 2:00p Subj: CDR74 + AHA1542B HELP!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >I have an NEC CDR-74 CD-ROM drive and an Adaptec AHA1542b SCSI host adapter. I >run OS/2 2.1 which recognises all the hardware without a problem. >All is good as long as I run OS/2. >But when I have tried to run plain DOS (without OS/2) I have a problem because >I don't have drivers to work with MSCDEX. You need the Adaptec ASW-1410 AND ASW-410 kits, or their "EZ-SCSI" (repackaged Corel SCSI) kit. >The Adaptec people say that there is nothing they can give or sell me You're lucky - back when I put up with Adaptec stuff, they wouldn't talk to me at ALL - and I'm a DEALER! * SLMR 2.1a * Don't blame me. I voted Libertarian!!!! --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1787 To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 08/25/93 2:03p Subj: PRO AUDIO OR SOUNDBLA Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >Pioneer DRM-604X not only holds 6 discs, but it transfers at 612KB/sec > With the Adaptec 1742 in enhanced mode running under OS/2 2.1, the >CD-ROM is indeed almost fast enough to rival an old MFM hard drive. The 604X should be in many cases FASTER than an old MFM setup - MFM maxed out at appx. 500KB/sec, though the average access commonly was as low as 28 ms (and in a few cases even LESS).... Depends on how the diles are laid out and how many of them and how big.... * SLMR 2.1a * Cats are aliens that took over the Earth millenia ago. --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 1788 To: DARIN CELINO Date: 08/25/93 2:05p Subj: ADVICE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >|SP> But the PAS 16 does have a SCSI portand the Mitsumi doesn't.. >Not sure of this.....but I think that the PAS 16 has a kit available to run a >Mitsumi from the CD port. There is no such thing - though the PAS16 SCSI port will work with a WIDE range of drives, the Mitsumi is NOT among them. You may be thinking of the ATI FX/CD sound card, which DOES have a Mitsumi- compatable port on it.... * SLMR 2.1a * Barnum is outdated - it's now every 10 seconds.... --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1789 To: DONATO RABAGO Date: 08/26/93 1:30a Subj: SHIPPING? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DR>I am from Guadalajara Jalisco., MEXICO, and I would like to know if you can DR>ship any CD-ROM to M xico. If you can I would like a price list, please We sure can. Air Parcel Post shipping is $6 for up to 1 lb, and about $3 for each additional pound. Be glad to send you a catalog, or you can freq it from 1:3407/101. Filename STARCAT.ZIP. Later, .\\ike --- * SLMR 2.1a * Dammit Jim! I'm a doctor, not a tagline! --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1790 To: TONNY LIN Date: 08/26/93 1:30a Subj: Encyclopedias Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TL> MS> We have the Grolier's Illustrated version 2.0 at $35. The MPC version TL> MS> is $48. Call any time if interested. TL>Let me know the different between them. Tks! The Illustrated version consists mainly of text and VGA images. The MPC version runs under Windows and features sound and full-motion video in portions. Both in stock if you're interested! Bye, .\\ike STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5 --- * SLMR 2.1a * Hello, I am Mike and I am a baudaholic. --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1791 To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 08/26/93 1:30a Subj: NEW CD-SOUTHERN BEAUTIES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL>MS>BR>> BR> ********** SOUTHERN BEAUTIES MAY NOT BE USED ON ANY BBS JL>MS>Then why did you put FILES.BBS on it? JL> > ^^^ JL>I think that is called meeting the letter, but not the intent of the JL>copyright laws. <G> It's kind of like Neverlock saying not to use their JL>program unless you have purchased the program you are unprotecting. ;) Well whatever. <sigh> I've asked him three times to explain it, with no reply (that I've seen) to date. Still a good looking CD, but I doubt that a lot of sysops will be buying it. 8) Bye, .\\ike --- * SLMR 2.1a * I'm leaving my body to science fiction... --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1792 To: ROB MCINTYRE Date: 08/26/93 1:30a Subj: CD LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RM>What is the JEDI Collection ? Is it a Star Wars library ? No Rob, it an educational CD package from the Joint Education Initiative at College Park Md. Deals with Earth and Space Sciences. Later, .\\ike --- * SLMR 2.1a * E-Mailing frequencies are open Captain. --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1793 To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 1:30a Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BRAND NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR! King's Quest VI.....$47 Shareware Explorer..$59 Phonedisc USA.......$69 Soundware Coll'ctn..$27 So Much Shareware 3.$28 Gameware Collection.$24 Aminet Amiga 1993...$15 5 Star Windows......$27 Electronic Cookbook.$33 Programmers Megapak.$29 Canadian Shareware..$19 Precision Mapping...$79 Shareware Online 2.soon Microsoft Golf......$58 Mac Shareware.......$22 M/M Computer Tutor..$30 Int'l Graphics Libr.$33 Color Magic Clipart.$28 The Holy Bible......$24 Am. Bus Phonebk 93..$35 Reel Clips..........$35 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5 --- * SLMR 2.1a * Picard and Riker in '96! --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1794 To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 1:31a Subj: NEW CD 4-PAK: $59 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ---------------------[ SHAREWARE EXPLORER 4-PAK ]-------------------------- * 26,000+ files * 3 discs are completely DOS files * 4th disc is completely Windows 3.0/3.1 files (over 7000) * Mostly 1992/1993 files * Less than 1% duplication among the 4 CD's ********* * BBS ready ** $59 ** * Very nice file retrieval interface and menu system ********* STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5 --- * SLMR 2.1a * This tagline will self-destruct in 5-million nanoseconds. --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 1795 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 5:23p Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROM'S [A] Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SHORELINE CD-ROM PRICE LIST PHONE ORDERS: (310) 652-2858 FAX ORDERS: (310) 652-2858 CD-ROM TITLE Your Price "A SURVEY OF WESTERN ART (Eng, Fr, Gr, Sp.)" $29.33 ADVENTURES OF WILLY BEAMISH $20.70 AIRCRAFT ENCYCLOPEDIA $31.05 ALOHA HAWAII $21.56 ANIMALS MPC (SAN DIEGO ZOO) $20.70 Animation Festival $18.11 ANNABEL'S DREAM OF ANCIENT EGYPT $72.80 ARTHUR'S TEACHER TROUBLES $25.88 AUDUBON'S BIRDS OF AMERICA $21.84 AUDUBON'S MAMMALS $21.84 BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SPACE $21.84 BARRONS PROFILES OF AMERICAN COLLEGES $23.29 BATTLE CHESS ENHANCED $24.75 BEAUTY & THE BEAST $15.53 BERLITZ Think & Talk French $144.86 BERLITZ Think & Talk German $144.86 BERLITZ Think & Talk Italian $144.86 BERLITZ Think & Talk Spanish $144.86 BIBLE LIBRARY $30.19 BIBLES & RELIGION $14.66 BRAIN DRAIN $32.78 BRING THE WORLD TO YOUR SENSES $10.35 BUSINESS & ECONOMIC ATLAS $21.56 C.I.A. WORLD FACT BOOK $29.33 Cameron's Fine Art $34.50 CANYON ACTION! $30.19 CAREER OPPORTUNITIES $31.91 CARMEN SAN DIEGO DELUXE $22.43 CD STORYTIME VOL1 $18.98 CD-CAD (computer aided design) $14.66 CD-ROM DIRECTORY ON DISK 1992 $25.88 CHESSMASTER 3000 $20.70 CICA MS WINDOWS $12.94 CINEMANIA MICROSOFT $82.80 CLASSIC COLLECTION + $85.90 Clip Art Heaven $18.98 CLIPART GALORE $32.78 CLIPART GOLIATH $14.66 COATES ART REVIEW: IMPRESSIONISM $29.33 Color Magic $21.56 COLOSSAL COOKBOOK $14.66 COMPLETE BOOKSHOP $14.66 COMPLETE WORKS OF SHAKESPEARE $21.84 COMPOSER QUEST $45.71 COMPTONS INTERACTIVE ENCYCLOPEDIA $138.00 CONAN: THE CIMMERIAN $35.36 CONSUMER INFORMATION $31.91 Cook Book Heaven $18.98 DAGGER OF AMON RA $32.78 DARWIN MULTIMEDIA $61.24 DEATHSTAR ARCADE $14.66 DESERT STORM $22.43 DESKTOP PUBLISHERS DREAM DISC 93 $31.05 DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES $14.66 DICTIONARY OF THE LIVING WORLD $31.05 DINOSAUR ADVENTURE $25.88 DISC CADDIES (DOMESTIC) $5.24 DISC CADDIES (EUROPEAN) $4.15 ECO-QUEST $32.78 ELECTRONIC HOME LIBRARY $35.36 ELECTRONIC LIBRARY OF ART I $30.19 ELECTRONIC LIBRARY OF ART II $30.19 EUROPEAN MONARCHS $30.19 "FAMILY CHOICE, BRITANNICA" $22.43 FAMILY DOCTOR $19.65 FAMILY EDUCATION COLLECTION $19.65 FOOD ANALYST $39.68 FRACTUNES $31.91 FRESH ARTE $31.91 FUTURA $32.78 Game Arena $11.21 GAME PACK II $26.74 GARBO MSDOS/Mac $12.94 Gif Galaxy $20.70 GIGA GAMES $17.25 GIGABYTE GOLD $35.36 GOLDEN IMMORTAL $22.43 GREAT CITIES OF THE WORLD I $22.43 GREAT CITIES OF THE WORLD II $22.43 GUNIESS DISC OF RECORDS $24.15 HAM RADIO $14.66 [Continues in next message...] --- GOMail v1.2 [DEMO] 09-18-93 * Origin: Origin Line Not Defined In GOEDIT (1:102/523) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL TURNER Number: 1796 To: MARCUS STUART Date: 08/24/93 12:00a Subj: Re: Mod Cd-Roms Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Sun 15-Aug-1993 9:18p, Marcus Stuart babbled: MS> I saw this message and i thought WOW a whole CD full of mods !! MS> I run a small bbs with 300 mod files or so in the uk and just wondered MS> if you could possibly tell me where i could get hold of this amazing cd MS> mentioned above ? I almost BOUGHT that CD yesterday! For $30 (US) but it didn't say anything as to wether or not it has the FILES.BBS file or any other sort of Descriptions file on it! Does anyone know if this CD has such files? :) --- * Origin: ReFLex Point-Pasadena, CA. 818-792-5622/3477/3938 (1:102/962.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SETH KLINE Number: 1797 To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 2:04p Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone have a CD-ROM for sale? I would like it cheap but it doesn't matter. --- Echodor 3.11a * Origin: The Cerberus BBS-Haverhill,MA-508-521-6883-HST/DS (1:324/137.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SETH KLINE Number: 1798 To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 2:06p Subj: CD's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No How much do good game CD's cost? Like some good Sierra games like SP4, PQ4 etc? Please get back to me. --- Echodor 3.11a * Origin: The Cerberus BBS-Haverhill,MA-508-521-6883-HST/DS (1:324/137.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF PATTEN Number: 1799 To: ROB PERELMAN Date: 08/25/93 12:14p Subj: CD Rom Requirements Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RP> I am buying a new computer soon with these specs: RP> 486 DX-33 RP> 130 MEG IDE HD RP> 4 MB Ram RP> Now I plan to run OS/2 v2.1 on this system and I am thinking RP> about a CD-Rom drive and maybe even a sound card. Now my RP> question is, what kind of CD-Rom drive and adaptors do I need RP> to get to be compatible with my IDE hard drive and OS/2? RP> Please help me A.S.A.P. Thanks! You will need more RAM, at least a total of 8 MB. If you can afford 16 MB, get it. The hd is a bit on the small side too, you know how those GUI programs think they have the disk to themselves... ;-) For a CD-ROM, get a SCSI-2 unit with a Future Domain or Adaptec host adapter. Drivers for these are included with OS/2, making installation easier. Jeff --- msgedsq/2 2.1a * Origin: Quibbler's Say (1:2410/242) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACK O'NEILL Number: 1800 To: ALASTAIR EDGINGTON Date: 08/27/93 1:04a Subj: OS/2 and SoundBlaster Pro Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 08-23-1993, ALASTAIR EDGINGTON was overheard mumbeling to ALL about OS/2 and SoundBlaster Pro, AE> I've got OS/2 2.1, MultiMedia Program Manager with SoundBlaster AE> Pro set up and working fine, but i can't get the SoundBlaster CD-ROM AE> working!! AE> AE> I've tried inserting soundblaster's sbpcd.sys (or whateva it's Alastair, What you want is either CLIOS2CD.EXE, available from Creative Labs BBS, or CLICD2.ZIP, avaiable on the IBM support BBS. CLIOS2CD is a self-extracting archive that contains a device driver (SBPCD2.SYS) and instructions. It's a beta version, so it may no longer be avaiable. CLICD2.ZIP is a release version containing an adaptor device driver (SBCD2.ADD) and instructions. With either of these you'll have access to data and audio CDs from PM, WinOS/2, and DOS sessions, and won't need SBPCD.SYS or MSCDEX. * KWQ/2 1.2a * Windows error #104: Operator fell asleep while waiting. ............................................................................... --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0097] * Origin: EXOTICA'S PETS & STUFF-CRYSTAL RIVER,FL- (1:3653/66) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DERIK MINNICH Number: 1801 To: DOUG DAGGER Date: 08/26/93 5:43p Subj: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No $700?!?!?! That is alot of money for one drive, unless you are planning on getting a Pioneer 6 disk machine :) Anyway, here is the HOTTEST tip I can give you. You can get an Internal Toshiba 3401 (THE fastest single drive out on the market right now) for $399 bare bones from CD-ROM Direct. Note this a bare bones drive, meaning you will have to get a SCSI controller if you don't have one, which they also sell. This is the lowest price I have found in the U.S., the ONLY catch is, you must buy C.O.D. which runs like $29. I have a number around somewhere, (There ad is is Computer Shopper). If you cannot find it, let me know. Any other questions, let me know here! Good luck! Derik Minnich The Crypt BBS, Carleton, MI (313) 654-9054 (1:2380/210) --- ProBoard v1.31 [Reg] * Origin: CANDI LAND BBS, MONROE, MI (313)243-6689 (1:2380/120) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SYLV JUMAGA Number: 1802 To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 12:15p Subj: Canadian CDROM dealers?? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Greetings, all! I was wondering if there are any *CANADIAN* companies out there that are selling CD-ROM drives and/or CD's . . . I see all sorts of ads posted here, but am dismayed when I realize their area codes are in the U.S. and there is no mention of the ability to ship to Canada, etc. Sylv ___ X DeLuxe2/386 1.25 #6475 X df7Uafd:1+Y3_hanks for hanging up the phone, dear. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Just Another BBS,Souris,MB,[204]483-2552 (1:348/300) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1803 To: DAVID SNIDER Date: 08/26/93 9:15a Subj: sound blaster 16 vs 16ASP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> And here's the kicker you can get a hold of a daughterboard called -> the -> WaveBlaster that can simulate General-midi and the Roland MT-32 and -> it's compatable with ANYTHING that can use GMIDI or Roland and now -> you don't have to pay a fortune for some good midi equipment, it -> retails for $250 more or less, and from what i hear it sounds DAMN -> good. You mean there is a daughterboard for the sb16/asp? That is fantastic don't know if i ever will need it though but if i were a musician/artist it would be a fantastic deal rather than buying those stand alone midi keyboards having to buy cartridges and record sound fx's through the mic of the midi instead through the computer and be able to edit things. Louis --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1804 To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/26/93 9:21a Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Sierra's CD-ROMS are ALWAYS different from disk version! The -> president of the company mentioned something about 'shovelware', that -> is disk software 'shovled' onto a CD and calling it CD-ROM. -> KQ6 for instance has an opening sequence about 7 times larger than -> the disk based version. Also prfessional voices for the characters. What I like about sierra and dislike about sierra also. For the likeables sierra does in fact lower their prices by 50% after 6months-year when their sales have dropped so that others can get a chance to buy it at a low affordable cost just like space quest iv,willy beamish for around $13 u.s through a mail order company i've seen those games were when new around $49 u.s. 3 times the price. What I don't like about sierra is they charge the cd version the exact same price as the disk version when their making more profit on the cd version instead of the disk version if you calculate a typical sierra game on disk takes 10 disks thats 30cents each thats $3 american now a cd version would cost less than $1 now that extra $2 savings if they were to take that off it would $2 doubled at the distributor level and then doubled again at the retail level would be almost $10 u.s. so that extra $10 they are making more profit off the cd version but the good thing though atleast they have the leeway to lower their prices on the cd rom versions but less leeway on the diskette versions. Louis --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1805 To: GEOFF MOEHLE Date: 08/26/93 9:24a Subj: help! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hey man write me a letter or something..im being ignored...where do i -> get fast access time and a 300kb/second transfer rate?...but at a -> good price!!!!!!im maybe interested in a Texel!! Well what do -> you...the people...think I should get? any help would be -> valuable...please write me!!! For 300kb/sec transfer rate the panasonic 562b is the best for the buck. Its $249 american texel may run you over $400 u.s. the panasonic has 300kb/sec transfer rate (of course thats what makes it dual speed), 320ms access time, 64k cache, can be hooked directly to sb 16 without the need of an interface card taking up a slot. I would of gone for the mitsumi if this product didn't existed but then i'd have only a 150kb/sec transfer rate, 350ms access time and a 32k cache and not a morotorized tray. Louis --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1806 To: DAVID M. WHITE Date: 08/26/93 12:51p Subj: CD-ROM BUNDLES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> DE> Card, and software bundle such as the Fusion CD 16. I was -> DE> curious what -> DE> people think of these bundles and of the hardware included -> -> I was also looking at the Fusion 16 package, however I found out it -> is an 800ms drive that is not Kodak ready so have decided against it. -> If you have a "Software Etc." store near you, they have that package -> priced at $399. That is discusting 800ms? Geez you can get a 320ms 300kb/sec transfer 562b panasonic with sound blaster 16 and kodak photo cd access disc for around the $399 price. Sounds like their trying to sell some people old technology for the same price as new technology drives. Louis --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1807 To: JIM FREDERICK Date: 08/26/93 12:55p Subj: 7TH GUEST... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I'm having problems with 7Th guest. I bought it when it first came -> out, and played it through. I haven't tried to play it for a while. -> In the meantime I upgraded from DOS 5 to DOS 6.... now it won't work -> at all. Has anyone else had this problem? My settings in my config -> and autoexec are the same, I have even more free memory. What's the -> problem? I'm open to suggestions..... thanks. Jim. What error messages do you get when running 7th guest? Louis --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: YVES DESJARDINS Number: 1808 To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 5:52p Subj: Benchmark test for CDROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! I'm looking for some type of benchmark test for a CDROM. Any suggestion? What is the "standard" benchmark test. Also where can I get it? thanks, Yves --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: Excalibur - Regina, Sk. (306)949-8605 (1:140/23.3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RACHEL REPSTAD Number: 1809 To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/26/93 8:47a Subj: games Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I also have Laura Bow II and that was a good game. I have The Colonel's Bequest too. Have you played that? That is a pretty challenging game. I have King's Quest V but I haven't beaten it. I've had it for about 2 years but it just doesn't make me want to play. I really liked King's Quest VI. I've beaten Space Quest 2 a couple of times and I really don't think there is a game that is too hard... just really challenging. The more challenging it is the more determined I am to beat it. But if you are having lots of trouble, GET THE CHEAT SHEET! I'm sure if you look around hard enough you will find one. Or you could just call the Sierra board and edit that and just print it out. That's where most of today's cheat sheets come from today. Anyway, I have Aces of the Pacific and I want Red Baron. Dan Hatterick, y'know the Sysop of this board is really in flying simulations. I really want Space quest 5. I've beaten all of the others and I would like to continue to do that. I just LOVE a good adventure! --- Ezycom V1.02 01fa005e * Origin: AUTOBYTE BBS-Franklin,VT/802-285-6846 14.4k -4CDS! (1:325/1204) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC HSIAO Number: 1810 To: ANDRE QUEREE Date: 08/26/93 9:04p Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Who cares if it isn't compatible with the SB16. The SB16 came out after the PAS-16 and the PAS-16 has the upperhand for 16-bit sound. There aren't any games that support the SB16 but not the PAS-16. It's not a limiting factor at all. The PAS-16 is still a great card. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: deltaComm Online - The Telix Support BBS! (1:151/107) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VICTORIA GILLIAM Number: 1811 To: LAURENCE ALLEN Date: 08/26/93 5:12p Subj: OS/2 2.1 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RP > 486 DX-33 RP > 130 MEG IDE HD RP > Both Floppies RP > 4 MB Ram RP > SVGA Monitor and card RP > RP > Now I plan to run OS/2 v2.1 on this system and I am thinking about RP > a CD-Rom drive and maybe even a sound card. Now my question is, RP > kind of CD-Rom drive and adaptors do I need to get to be RP > compatible IDE hard drive and OS/2? Please help me A.S.A.P. RP > Thanks! LA} Try the Texel CD Rom Drive and a Trantor T130 SCSI-2 Controler LA} card. The Sound Blaster also works great. RP, If you only have 4megs of RAM, I can tell you for a fact that OS/2 will run SLOWLY...remember, it says MINIMUM 4 megs. Also, for a good Multimedia kit, I suggest the FUSION 16 kit from MediaVision. It includes the Pro-Audio Spectrum 16 sound card and a Sony CDROM (internal)...the external kit (16E) has an NEC CDROM. Both are OS/2 compatible (but you will need a special driver from MediaVision to install/utilize the CDROM with OS/2). (Any other --- WM v3.01/92-0182 * Origin: Dr Downloads BBS (305) 746-0795 (1:369/74.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NIRAV SHETH Number: 1812 To: TIM HELTON Date: 08/26/93 7:33p Subj: Disk needed Refer: NONE Read: 08/28/93 10:04p Private: No Try getting Ecoquest from sierra-on-line.... I got it for $50.... Thanks... --- WM v3.01/92-0358 * Origin: Cyclone BBS! "Taking the World by Storm!" (1:3607/2.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PETER DETTELIS Number: 1813 To: TERRY WOODWARD Date: 08/22/93 7:29p Subj: new rules Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have no disagreement with the rules decision. CD-ROM discs have a variety of information to offer and limiting discussion on one or more areas some people might find offensive is fine. It's up to the moderator and I'm sure everyone will abide. I have my opinion about the subject but I respect yours too. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: COSUG BBS: Colorado Springs PC User Group 719-632-2566 (1:128/13) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRENT LYNCH Number: 1814 To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/25/93 6:59p Subj: Re: Cd-rom Games Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ::To: Brent Lynch From: Ashwin Bihari Subj: Re: Cd-rom Games :: AB> Hey Brent, I thought about buying Wing Commander II dulxe but when I AB> could not find it in the place I went to , I instead got 7TH GUEST, I AB> think I made a good choice in buying 7th guest instaed of WIng AB> Commander, and since I did that I cannot buy another game for a while, AB> anyway I sure want to get Day of the Tentacle, about KIng's Quest, I Some other recent CDROM games are: Space Shuttle:A SVGA edutainment/space shuttle sim. Lord of the Rings: Interplay's classic RPG with video clips from the animated films, and voice included Return of the Phantom: Same as Disk version, except saves about 20+ megs of space on the old HD Dune: Oft-delayed Virgin game, havent played it, but it looks mighty impressive with film clips from the movie. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- GEcho 1.00/beta+ * Origin: The Master's BBS - D'Bridge,SuperBBS,FMail,USR-HSTV32 (1:103/500) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LISA HUTTER Number: 1815 To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 9:29p Subj: My New cd-rom! help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi All, I've just recently installed a panisonic CD-Rom and I'm not sure how to get the most out of it...I thought that I'd be able to play musical CD's while working in Windows, etc...Of course this isn't the only reason I made this purchase but I'd thought it would be a fun feature. Can anyone give me some advice as to how to make the most of my new "toy"? Also, what are some good programs out there.... Any help would be greatly appreciated :) Bye for now, Lisa --- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93 * Origin: JW-PC Consulting DataFlex.HST (608)837-1923 (1:121/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON BOSMAN Number: 1816 To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/24/93 11:23p Subj: Cdrom Systems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BO>Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare -$1199. BO>Boris Osadciw I always figure a newcomer should keep his mouth shut for a while before posting. So after reading several hundred posts, I have a few questions. What can you tell me, and others newbies, about the Pioneer bare drives listed above? Specifically, access time, seek time, transfer rates, can they fit in a 5.25 in slot, what kind of interface card is required, etc. How might the above compare to a couple or six Panasonic 562's on a file server? Thanks. If anyone else cares to comment, please do, positive or negative. ___ X OLX 2.2 X Unable to locate Cola -- Operator Halted! --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Lighthouse CBCS HST/V.32, 150+ echos, 517-321-0788 (1:159/950) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON BOSMAN Number: 1817 To: ALL Date: 08/24/93 11:53p Subj: cr562, 563, info wanted Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello all. I have been reading here for a while and have a few questions. The Panasonic CR562b seems to be the drive of choice. What is the difference between it and the 563? Is there a difference between the 562 and the 562b? I have a SB Pro 16, used to have the drive (522 I think) that came in the Creative Labs kit. Can the 562x just plug and play using the same settings that came with the kit's setup? Can two or more 562's be daisy chained on the SB Pro 16? If you have answers to anything I missed, please forward them. Thanks to all in advance. ___ X OLX 2.2 X Press Ctrl,Alt,Del for new CAD program. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Lighthouse CBCS HST/V.32, 150+ echos, 517-321-0788 (1:159/950) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN EAGAN Number: 1818 To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 12:12a Subj: *Wanted Your DEAD CD-ROMS!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * Original Area: FOR-SALE * Original To : All (1:157/619) WANTED! Your DEAD CD-ROM Drives! I am Looking for TOSHIBA XM-3201B's and NEC's ONLY! I want them! They are just sitting around gathering dust. Looking For Toshiba and NEC! I WANT THEM! Sell them to me! Call me and we'll discuss a fair price or Reply here! Might as well make some money on them! Sean Eagan --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Hard Drive Cafe - USR 16.8 D/S - (216)668-2572 - (1:157/619) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1819 To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 11:19p Subj: OS/2 CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ==================== OS2 ON CD For Only $65.00 ? ==================== IN STOCK Until Septemeber 14, 1993 you can purchase the complete OS/2 v2.21 package, which offer's you the installation disks, cd, manuals and other special discounts for only $65.00! Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65. Call NOW and get your copy today! ORDER LINE ONLY 800-243-0517 Boris Osadciw ... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY JOHNSON Number: 1820 To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/25/93 8:08p Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Sorry Ashwin, I think your message got to the wrong person - I don't know anything about this. Maybe it's a common name - I'm not at all surprised --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: DataNet (3:640/221) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY STOTT Number: 1821 To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/26/93 9:04a Subj: Re: Cd-rom Games Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Carlos, the Sound Canvas is external, connected through a Midiman MM401 midi interface card. --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Coastal Communications Line 1 (3:714/906) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: POE LIM Number: 1822 To: NITIN N. GUPTA Date: 08/26/93 11:38p Subj: Pas16 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Nitin, On Aug 22 01:04 in a msg to Poe Lim, Nitin N. Gupta of 1:324/295 wrote: > Sorry, but I am not familiar with os/2. Is it better than win3.1 or > win NT -!- FMail 0.94 NT is only now shipping (if you can find it, as they are extremely rare at present). As for Win 3.1..... OS/2 let's you run Win 3.1 apps, and then pre-emptively multitasks then seemlessly on the WPS. But this isn't the OS/2 echo, so I had better not go too far. Cheers, Poe --- * Origin: Serendipity Inc, Cowra. +61-63-41 1859 (3:623/630) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: POE LIM Number: 1823 To: SUNNY LEUNG Date: 08/26/93 11:40p Subj: Panasonic 562/563 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Sunny, On Aug 22 11:19 in a msg to All, Sunny Leung of 3:712/401 wrote: > of upgrading to the new Panasonic double speed drive. Does anyone in > Australia supply this drive, and what would be the price? About Aust$450 inc tax. > BTW, what's the difference between the 562 and 563? 563 is the SB version, the 562 is the general version. Cheers, Poe --- * Origin: Serendipity Inc, Cowra. +61-63-41 1859 (3:623/630) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VICKI CRAWFORD Number: 1824 To: TONY VALUIKAS Date: 08/26/93 6:46a Subj: MultiLine/CDROM/DV/HELP!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Aug 15, 1993>, Tony Valuikas wrote to All: TV> Can anyone help me on this? TV> I keep getting CRC errors on all files download from the CDROM. TV> With one Node up everything works but with more than one Node TV> I get errors. The problem is either the access speed of the CD rom or your comms port chips. What speed does the CD drive do? Do you have 16550 uart chips in your computer because as soon as you multi-task you will need them. The CRC errors tends to show the comms port chips are not high-speed ones. Vicki --- msgedsq 2.1 * Origin: Computer Connection - Adelaide, Aust. (08)326 2388 (3:800/809) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANDRE QUEREE Number: 1825 To: RICK BYERS Date: 08/27/93 1:55a Subj: Audio CDs on CD-ROMs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Rick Byers to All <=- RB> Does anyone know where I can get some good text files or a RB> book that would tell me how I can Instruct the CD-ROM drive to play an RB> audio CD? I have programs that will do it but I'd like to expand on RB> these and have had troubles telling MSCDEX to play it. Well thanks RB> alot, Rick Byers Hi Rick! The Microsoft Windows Multimedia books (from Microsoft Press) explain how to program the CD for CD-Audio under MS Windows. Not sure about any books for DOS though! Catch ya' later! Andre ... Al, I just leaped into a tagline. What does Ziggy have to say? --- Blue Wave/Max v2.11 [NR] * Origin: Heaven's Door * 61-2-440-8937 * 2 lines * T.PEP V32bis (3:711/927) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG MCDONELL Number: 1826 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/26/93 10:38a Subj: CD LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Whilst on a recent visit to Earth Mike Shannon spake thusly to All MS> STARVECTOR CD-ROM LIQUIDATION SPECIALS! MS> Shareware...$22 Clipart Heaven...$19 5Star Prem. Windows.$27 MS> Otherware I...$17 Jedi Collection..$39 History of Jazz.$45 MS> Hacker Chronicles...$24 Reel Clips..$35 Kodak Photo CD.$18 MS> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 Mike, I was wondering about this Kodak Photo CD ... is it editing tools, a database utility or what?? I may need it if Digital Cameras ever reduce in price down to my price range 8-) Also, in my recent order to you ( and thanks for prompt service on the last couple of orders, BTW ) I included a request for Return to Zork, which is supposed to be out soon. You may care to let myself and others know via this echo when this title, and also the new Tex Murphy and Labyrinth CDs, become available. I'm sure there are a lot of other 35 year old fathers out there still playing games <G>. Cheers, Greg ... When you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? --- Fmail 0.96+ RA200+ * Origin: Galen BBS "A Happy Heart is like Good Medicine" (3:711/920.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SCOTT GOLBY Number: 1827 To: ALASTAIR EDGINGTON Date: 08/25/93 5:00p Subj: OS/2 and SoundBlaster Pr Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi there, AE> I've tried inserting soundblaster's sbpcd.sys (or whateva AE> it's called) in os/2's config.sys. This works fine, and AE> the CD is accessed and all is fine. I just can't figure AE> out where to get the cd-rom extensions driver from!! AE> mscdex won't work. it comes up with incorrect dos version. Yeah I put the sbpcd2.sys in the startup, and didn't get the CD-ROM working either. I went looking for the CDFS.IFS file which I also added to the config.sys under OS/2 2.0 to get the CD working, and I couldn't find it! What I did was get the CDFS.IFS file off a OS/2 2.0 disks (on one of the first couple) and put it onto my 2.1 partition and into the config.sys like this. IFS=H:\CDFS.IFS /Q Seems to work here. I have been told there is a new SB-Pro CD-ROM driver for OS/2 2.1 but I have yet to see it. 'C' ya... Scott Golby sgolby@st.nepean.uws.edu.au * KWQ/2 1.0C * --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: INFOcentre BBS, Penrith, Over 2 Gig, (047) 36 6263 (3:713/616) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ROBERTSON Number: 1828 To: ERIC HSIAO Date: 08/26/93 10:17p Subj: Speedcache & disc caddies Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi, Eric! RE your msg... EH> The caddies I have is clear above the circular part of EH> the disc and opaque on the outer corners. The bottom EH> of the caddy says Made in the USA, so it's not some EH> cheap Taiwanese copy...overall the caddy looks pretty Fasinating:-) Actually check this out..is the frosting a smooth finish or is it lumpy or a bump between the smooth surface and the frosting. The par tyou are saying is opaque , if it's part of the lid, should actually be frosted, something like a lightly sanded surface. Also the fact that they say "Made in USA" doesn't mean anything, as the copies (perhaps from Hong Kong) wouldn't miss that now would they? Read up on the copy business in any trade journal on ANY product, you'll find it rampant. However the going wholesale price on caddies from reputable distributors, such as Walnut Creek is around $4.50 US so I'm not sure how anyone can sell caddies at "$4-$5" at swap meets that are NOT copies. Ttloo... :-# --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: John's Jukes Tech BBS Voice(604)872-5757 FAX 872-8073 (1:153/7080) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1829 To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 1:26a Subj: $9 CD SPECIALS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No $9 CD'S ----------- Phoenix 3.0 WIN/OS2 Windoware Super Games for Windows Powerpak Gold 3 Phethean's Ham Radio 3.0 Super Games for DOS ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p International orders welcomed. CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5 --- * SLMR 2.1a * I think my data transmission is low on fluid. --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 1830 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/26/93 8:48a Subj: Re: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BF> > Note. All of the high end high-performance drives BF> intended for commercial BF> >or heavy-duty service use caddys. BF> Not any more - Panasonic's recent offerings include BF> double-speed drives that BF> are caddyless. BF> >I wouldn't consider using a caddyless for my BBS BF> I refuse to put up with those caddy-type single-disc monstrosities. I can This makes no sense at all. Caddies are a lot more CONVENIENT than non-caddy units. With a caddyless CD, one must get the old case, unload the CD, put it in the case, get the new CD, remove it from its case, put it in the carrier, and close the door, all the while exposing the CDs to dust, dirt, fingerprints, scratches, and the odd drop on the floor. With caddies, one simply removes the old caddy and pops in the new one. Less muss, less fuss, and no potential damage to the CD. BF> BARELY tolerate caddies on multi-disc changers, as there BF> IS no other viable Once again, the caddy is MUCH more convenient, as well as more durable, plus one can change an entire SUITE of software at once. The only drawback is that the entire suite must be changed, not easily allowing mix-and-match suites. Les --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: GUI? Ptui!!! --- Last Chance Pt 4 (1:387/800.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 1831 To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/26/93 9:02a Subj: Re: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MW> You're exactly right. QEMM "optimize" consistently gave me less memory MW> when it had to deal with the CD driver. For example, it would get MW> finished and display a message saying, "you have 98K less now than when MW> you started." I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me! I can't MW> really do it on my own because it would be purely taking stabbs in the MW> dark. It's not that difficult. MW> I have 4 major drivers I need to have: STACKER 48k, MTMCDE.SYS, MW> MCDEX.EXE 144K (64 BUFFERS) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Use the /E switch to utilize expanded memory buffers. MW> and PC-CACHE 1M. Likewise, you should be (have to be, actually) using EMMS or XMS (preferably XMS) for your cache. The driver itself only takes up a few dozen K. MW> It can't load all four MW> of these high no matter what order they're in. I just can't understand MW> that because I have 4 Megs of ram. None of which DOS can use. If you are going to use a crippled kludge of an OS, you are going to have to expect some limitations. Nonetheless, you should be able to load all four of these applications high without any trouble. MW> I guess there's a few things I don't MW> know about memory. I always thought that you could load stuff high MW> until you ran out of extended or expanded memory but I guess that's MW> not true. It's not even close. Upper memory (or UMB) is simply that fragmented region created by the presence of the video card. Executable code cannot reside in non contiguous memory regions, so DOS cannot for practical purposes use the memory between the start of your first BIOS code (usually A000, A800, or B000, and usually the video BIOS) and the end of its address limit, 1M. (Actually, DOS COULD use that region, but the maximum application size would be limited to about 128K, as opposed to 600K+ when it uses the lower memory.) Executable code CAN be placed in that region, however, as long as the region is big enough to hold all the active code. That makes it ideal for loading TSRs and device drivers. Extended memory is memory above the DOS/XT limit of 1M. A 24 or 32 bit CPU can address that memory, but DOS, being 20 bit, cannot. One slight exception: because of the 16/20 bit segmented memory model kludge that allows a fundamentally 16 bit OS to access a 20 bit memory space, there is a trick that can allow DOS to access 1M + 64K - 16bytes of memory, if it is available. Because of this, 286 and 386 machines can allow DOS to load code smaller than 64K into the High Memory Area (HMA). DOS 5 & 6 both can take advantage of this to load the kernal into high memory. The remainder of your device drivers can be loaded into UMB's (NOT the High Memory Area). The rest of extended memory is not unaccessable to DOS. EMS isn't even real memory, it is virtual memory. Les --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: GUI? Ptui!!! --- Last Chance Pt 4 (1:387/800.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 1832 To: DON KULHA Date: 08/26/93 9:01p Subj: Re: CDROM Slows BBS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JH> I don't run the Pioneer DRM-600 drive here, but I JH> do have your problem. I run 3 lines with Lantasti JH> net. The problem seems to me to be when a request JH> is made from a workstation it must be met before JH> going on to another node's request. JH> That may or may not be the problem, since I don't JH> <g>know a lot about networking .. JH> I don't know any way around it, I have tried JH> everything I can think of. Wait until a cdrom JH> can't find a file GEEEEZ! the whole darn board JH> (all nodes) will set and wait for ever! DK> Exactly my experience. I was running 7 individual DK> CD's (Hitachi 3500) on a non-dedicated server which ran DK> one line (last in rotation) of our 4 lines. The other BBS DK> machine runs a floppy (to boot onto the LAN), 3 Intel DK> satisfaxion 400's, QEMM/DV, and 3 BBS sessions on a DK> 486/SLC2/66 (IBM planar) using AI4.1 NOS and ethernet. DK> When I ran Lantastic the system was commonly getting hung The best network solution I have found for CD-ROM drives is a CD-ROM network called CD-SHARE. Note that this network runs completely independently of your regular network, and that machines which are not regular servers on the network can be set up as CD-ROM servers. The software comes with excellent documentation that is fairly technically in-depth. However, the interface is so easy and intuitive to set up, you will probably not have to read the docs (do it anyway, but don't be discouraged by how complicated the docs are). The software comes with a CD-ROM cache that seems to work very well indeed, and it is able to network softwares (like Grolier's and Compton's) that are deliberately designed NOT to work with non-local CD-ROM drives. This software is MUCH faster and much less buggy than Lantastic at networking the CD-ROM drives. Note also that the network does not even have to be loaded on the machine(s) acting as a CD-server(s). The NETBIOS drivers must be loaded, but no network requestor, redirector, or server software need be loaded on the CD-server, if not required The shareware version supports up to 32 drives, but only one user and one task. The commercial/registered version supports several users and a large number of tasks. The software is available on the Artisoft BBS, and the company can be reached as: Digital Solutions Pty. Ltd. P.O. Box 178 Margate QLD, Australia. 4019 Ph. 07 8831851 Intl. 617 8831852 Fax 07 2831217 Intl. 617 2831217 Les --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: GUI? Ptui!!! --- Last Chance Pt 4 (1:387/800.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 1833 To: NIGEL ZETT Date: 08/26/93 9:37p Subj: Re: Explain Sound Cards to me. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No NZ> No, I'm not as stupid as the title suggests. What I'm NZ> confused about is what are the MAJOR differences between NZ> the (seemingly) 1000+ brands of sound cards. NZ> NZ> I know that some have SCSI or proprietary interfaces for NZ> CD-ROM, Right. Personally, I'm using an Adaptec 1742 EISA SCSI-2 adapter that supports 10MBPS synchronous transfers and SCSI disconnect. I have a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 sound card with a SCSI interface, but guess how many drives are attached to the PAS? Nonetheless, the SCSI interface can save a slot. NZ> 16-64 channel 'Multi-port' MIDI, and I even understand NZ> that some samplein mono and some in stereo, some with NZ> 'lousy' sample rates and some with CD quality (although NZ> I've yet to see one that actually samples at REAL CD NZ> sample rates (ie 38.1KHz). Are you certain about the sample rate for CD-audio? I don't have a tech sheet handy, but the published specs for CD drives is 20KHz bandwidth, which (if correct) requires a minimum sample rate of 40KHz to prevent aliasing. In any case, the PAS-16 can do 44.1KHz (which is the number that sticks in my head for the standard CD sample rate). Dynamic range and S/N, however, are greatly reduced from CD standards; only(!) 75dB from synthesized audio and 85dB from sampled audio. Since both of these well exceed the noise figures and dynamic range of cassette tapes or standard phonographic vinyl, they should provide few problems for the computer jockey. They would be unacceptable for a recording studio, of course. NZ> So with all that (plus those that have SVGA all on one NZ> card), what are the REAL DIFFERENCES and types in each NZ> category of card, and which brabd is the best value in NZ> each category, and who on this Echo has the cheapest prices... All things considered, I believe the PAS-16 to be the best buy in general. It offers extended interrupts and 16 bit DMA, full Sound Blaster support (which I have disabled because of IRQ conflicts), and good compatibility with OS/2. Both the game port and the SCSI port are quite usable, if required. Les --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: GUI? Ptui!!! --- Last Chance Pt 4 (1:387/800.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 1834 To: MANESH RAMA Date: 08/27/93 5:36a Subj: Re: Encyclopedia's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No You> how good is a grolliers ... I've heard it is better than Compton's in terms of audience it is aimed at. Grolliers is aimed at high school students. Comptons is aimed at junior high school students. You should be able to get an older Grolliers on the Software Toolworks label for the price you are interested in. More recent ones are available under $100.00 at computer shows (still my favorite place to shop). ... When I started out buying discs, I felt perhaps I was missing something buying the cheaper disk at the show. After all, the discs came in boxes in the computer stores. Turns out, after I bought a few "in the boxes" that you are paying about $10.00 to $100.00 (!!!!) for the box. There's nothing else in it! --regards, Roy Cochrun --- OverMail v0.82b * Origin: The DGS System -Viper- EC, Maryland - (410)461-9943 (1:261/1116) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SAM JONES Number: 1835 To: NICK FUNK Date: 08/27/93 3:23p Subj: Panasonic 562 & Pro Studio 16 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No NF> Does anyone know if the new ProAudio Studio 16 by MediaVision SCSI port NF> will work with the Panasonic CR-562 double speed drive. An if so are NF> the drivers included with the sound card. No it won't work with the PAS's interface, but you can pick up a CL563 Ommni Cd-Upgrade Kit (the same drive as the 562-b) that consists of the drive, interface card, and Photostyler CD software for $329 at Babbage's and probaly a bit less via mail order. Sam --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Node III BBS New Orleans LA (504) 347-4320 (1:396/27) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JON SHEARIN Number: 1836 To: GEOFF MOEHLE Date: 08/26/93 9:27p Subj: HELP! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > where do i get fast access time and a 300kb/second transfer rate?...but at > a good price!!!!!!im maybe interested in a Texel!! Well what do > you...the people...think I should get? Geoff, After seeing both the Texel and the Toshiba in action, I have to recommend the Toshiba. Spend the little bit of extra cash and get the best. Remember, "The cheapest is not always the best." Later, JS. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: Micro Message Service NCRTP (919)779-6674 TBBS 2.2M (1:151/102) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 1837 To: JAMES ZMIJEWSKI Date: 08/28/93 10:23p Subj: Avi file Refer: 4172 Read: NO Private: No -> I'm still loking for a disk with avi files on it. If it was w Shareware Studio III will have several .AVI files.... We're also working on an all original & BBS ready .AVI disc. I got some more great footage this week - alligators at the Okefenokee swamp! On Thursday I floated about 5 miles into the swamp in a flat bottom boat and got some great videos... On at least 50 occasions I was within 10 feet of 15 foot alligators - creatures that would eat me if they had their druthers. This will be on the disc along with the other original material we've accumulated... tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 1838 To: RANDY RASA Date: 08/28/93 10:23p Subj: Shareware for CD's Refer: 4240 Read: NO Private: No -> To: All Shareware CDROM Publishers -> -> If you are interested in receiving shareware direct from the author, -> please post an address where you'd like a disk to be sent, or a BBS -> phone number where uploads can be posted. We do the Shareware Studio series... Send a file attach message to 1:133/515 (BBS # 404-491-1405) or mail to: Data Express, Inc. 6799 Windfaire Dr. Norcross, GA 30093 Had we did this a week ago, we could have gotten it on Studio III :( tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEOFF MOEHLE Number: 1839 To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 5:28p Subj: panasonic Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello!!!!!!! I was thinking about buying a double speed CD-ROM from panasonic...however I was wondering about the 350 milisecond access time...is that REAL slow?????? Would that cause problems???/ The transfer rate is a 300mb/second...and I was wondering on how that might be!!!!!!!! Anyone who can tell me anything about my questions would be greatfully helpful!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks!!!! Geoff Moehle! --- GEcho 1.00/beta+ * Origin: Well of Souls 503-741-1829 14400 16K files 1.4GIG (1:152/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 1840 To: VICTOR ZDANOWICZ Date: 08/26/93 7:19a Subj: Re: Sony CD-ROM + 16ASP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Could anyone tell me if it is possible to use a Sony CDU561 drive (double > spin) with a 16ASP?.... Also.. Is this a good idea.. or should I go for > the Creative CR1200 kit with 8CD's and double-spin.. I am worried about > the quality of the CD-ROM in the Creative Kit... and I belive that SONY > would be much better...?...Is this true??????? Hi Victor, I will recommend you to go with Panasonic 562B with the mentioned sound card. TTYL GroupWare --- DB 1.53/002199 * Origin: GroupWare CD-ROM Support & Sales BBS: 1-206-581-9088 (1:138/116) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 1841 To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 7:26a Subj: Cica Windows Update Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CICA Windows CD-ROM disk had been updated and now available from GroupWare 4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd Tacoma, WA 98409 1-206-472-1400 1-800-373-0628 1-206-473-1634 FAX 1-800-277-5179 FAX --- DB 1.53/002199 * Origin: GroupWare CD-ROM Support & Sales BBS: 1-206-581-9088 (1:138/116) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JUAN-PEDRO MINON Number: 1842 To: JORGE GUTIERREZ Date: 08/20/93 12:00a Subj: Contactar Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hola Jorge. Me llamo Juan Pedro Minon y te escribo para ver si me puedes ayudar. Te he elegido a tí principalmente por que teòricamente tienes que hablar español y podremos, o por lo menos yo, entendernos mejor. Y ahora al caso. Estoy buscando lo que por aquí se conoce como un BROKER, es decir , una persona que localiza material informático para otra en nombre de una empresa, a cambio de unos honorarios, sueldo, porcentaje o cualquiera que sea la forma de pago por sus servicios. Mis intereses están centrados básicamente en: Placas madre. Controladoras multi I/O. Memorias de 1 Mb a 70 ns. Discos Duros Tarjetas gráficas Unidades de CD-ROM Software en CD-ROM (cualquiera que sea su función) Actualmente me interesa obtener información y precios sobre una unidad CD-ROM de lectura/escritura, como por ejemplo el modelo KODAK PCD WRITER 200 o PHILIPS CDD-521/10 con todos sus accesorios incluyendo el software. Si puedes ayudarme podemos llegar a acuerdos, si no gracias por escucharme. Nombre de mi empresa: SIMULATOR SOFT INFORMATICA Calle Callao de Lima 36, Bajo izquierda Santa Cruz de Tenerife - C.P. 38002 ISLAS CANARIAS - ESPAÑA Teléfono: +34-22-291552 Fidonet: 2:340/13.7 Un saludo --- FastEcho 1.25 * Origin: Saludos a todos :-) (2:340/13.7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JUAN-PEDRO MINON Number: 1843 To: ALL Date: 08/20/93 12:00a Subj: CD-ROM WRITER Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Helo, all. I am looking for a CD-ROM writer (Kodak PCD Writer 200 or Philips CDD 521/10). Please reply to me with price, capatibilites, software and specifications. Thanks, Juan Pedro-Fidonet 2:340/13.7 --- FastEcho 1.25 * Origin: Saludos a todos :-) (2:340/13.7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD OSTRER Number: 1844 To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 4:03a Subj: cd's for sale Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DEALER CD-ROMs MINIMUM ORDER IS 5 CD-ROMs (can mix). (Good Volume Discounts) Visa, MC, AmEx, Discover, Money Order. Todd Ostrer 2473 S.E. 135th Portland, Or. 97233 (503)257-7255 24 hrs / 7 days (503)257-7264 (BBS) 14.4v32 ADULT Adult Palate (PC or Mac)........... 28 Adult Reference Library............ 25 After Dark Trilogy................. 40 All Beauties....................... 29 Amateur Models..................... 29 Animation Fantasies Vol 1 or 2..... 28 Asian Ladies....................... 29 Busty Babes........................ 29 Deep Throat........................ 49 Digital Dancing.................... 49 Digital Dreams..................... 30 Dirty Talk......................... 45 Ecstasy Hot Pics................... 29 Erotic Encounters.................. 29 Erotic Encounters 2................ 29 FAO (3 disk set)................... 65 Foxes.............................. 27 Gay World 1........................ 30 Gay World 2........................ 30 GBL (gay, bi-sexual, lesbian)...... 30 Giffy Gold......................... 28 Glamour Girls 1943................. 40 Hidden Obsessions.................. 43 Hot Hunks..(gay)................... 30 House of Sleeping Beauties (movie). 45 Island Girls....................... 24 Lovely Ladies II................... 28 Manpower (gay)..................... 30 Moving Fantasies (194 movies)...... 35 My First Time (2 CDs).............. 43 My Private Collection 1 or 2....... 28 Mystique of the Orient............. 43 Night Watch Interactive............ 45 Nix Pix Hot Pix 1.................. 55 Nix Pix Hot Pix 2, 3, 4 or 5....... 26 PC Pix 1, 2 or 3................... 28 Physical Therapy (XXX-Extreme)..... 26 Pixure ROM 1, 2 or 3............... 30 Pixure ROM Triple Exposure (3 CDs). 85 Pork-Ware 1........................ 28 Pork-Ware 2........................ 29 Private Pictures................... 29 RimFire Pacific.................... 43 Seedy Rom 1 thru 6 (each).......... 29 Seedy Rom 6 pack...................150 Seedy Rom 7th Heaven............... 30 Seedy Rom Movie Disk #1............ 33 Sexxcapades, The Movie............. 47 Smutware........................... 28 So Much Stareware.................. 28 Southern Beauties.................. 32 Storm 1............................ 26 Storm 1, 2 & 3..................... 72 Storm 2............................ 26 Storm 3............................ 26 Swimware 1993...................... 29 Swimware & More.................... 28 Visual Fantasies................... 28 Volcano............................ 27 Wicked............................. 55 Women of Venus (bathing suits)..... 28 ART & GRAPHICS -------------- Clip Art Galore.................... 30 Clip Art Goliath................... 22 Clip Art Heaven.................... 30 Corel Upgrade to ver 3, CD included150 DTP Dream Disk (clip art,fonts,book 50 Gifs Galore........................ 25 Just Fonts v1...................... 33 Library of Art: Europe, America.... 65 Mother Earth....................... 33 Publish It Ver. 2.................. 30 Publisher's Paradise............... 33 So Much Screenware................. 33 Too Many Fonts..................... 22 Wild Places (with sound)........... 36 World View (with sound)........... 36 BUSINESS -------- Amer Business Phone Book '92....... 26 Britannica Select Software......... 30 Business Master.................... 28 Marketing Master................... 30 Pro Phone '92 (3 CDs).............. 50 Pro Phone '93 (7 CDs)..............140 Pro Phone Business '93............. 43 EDUCATION --------- Aesop's Fables..................... 30 Animals of the San Diego Zoo....... 26 Animals of the San Diego Zoo (MPC). 28 Arthur's Teacher Trouble........... 50 Barney Bear Goes to School......... 28 Beauty & the Beast................. 30 Beethoven, multimedia.............. 60 Best of Both Worlds (PC Globe)..... 50 Birds by Audobon, multimedia....... 33 Britannica Family Choice........... 30 CD Menu & Music Player............. 23 Carmen San Diego deluxe............ 36 Classic Coll(Mam,Birds,Holmes,Shake 55 Education Master................... 26 Great Cities of the World v 1 or 2 30 Great Wonders of the World......... 40 Interactive Storytime 1 or 2....... 36 Jazz, a multimedia history......... 70 Just Grandma & Me.................. 48 MacMillan Dictionary for Children.. 40 Mammals by Audobon................. 30 Mammals, National Geographic....... 30 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing........ 30 Mixed-Up Mother Goose.............. 28 Monarch Notes...................... 66 Musical Instruments, Microsoft..... 60 Peter & The Wolf................... 30 Presidents Started with George..... 80 Putt Putt Joins the Parade......... 47 Sleeping Beauty.................... 42 Talking Classic Tales.............. 36 Talking Jungle Safari.............. 36 Talking Schoolhouse................ 36 GAMES ----- 7th Guest (2 CDs).................. 48 Battlechess Enhanced............... 58 Battlechess Multimedia............. 30 >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued in next message << ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD OSTRER Number: 1845 To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 4:03a Subj: cd's for sale Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued from previous message << Chessmaster 3000................... 30 Deathstar.......................... 22 Game Master........................ 26 Game Pak I, Toolworks.............. 23 --- WM v3.01/92-0781 * Origin: The Exchange Club * Clackamas, OR * 503-659-4603 (1:105/269.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALAN WILLIAMS Number: 1846 To: DIANA KIRKSEY Date: 08/23/93 9:18p Subj: CD-ROM HELP! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> >For the life of me, I can't get the .SYS file to load in high -> memory. >I use QEMM but even went as far as to install 386MAX on my -> system. >Neither will let me load the file high - both lock up my -> system when >they boot. I've rebooted about 500 times over this and -> just gave up. >Anyone else not able to load the .SYS file high? -> I've been having problem's trying to use QEMM too.The problems -> actually started when I installed my correct Video Card on -> Windows(Trident 256c),since then whenever I try to load Qemm,it says -> that Windows can't load the video driver in B000.So -> unfortunately,right now anyway,I'm just having to use Windows -> Himem.sys,which leave's me with only 552k conventional memory(I have -> 4 megs on board). Does anyone have any suggestions? I tried excluding -> the B000,but it still did the same thing. I haven't seen the entire thread of this conversation, so this is just a shot in the dark..... Have you run the Quarterdeck provided utility (believe its called QWINFIX or something like that)? That will tell windows to accept QEMM versus Himem.sys/EMM386.EXE as the memory manager. What is the .SYS file that you're having a hard time loading high? Cheers, Al --- * RM 1.0 00805 * I always laugh at the wrong time. At my own funeral.... --- FidoPCB v1.3 [ff125/a] * Origin: Afroline BBS - Maputo, Mocambique (5:7221/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALAN WILLIAMS Number: 1847 To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 9:18p Subj: CD-ROM PROGRAM WANTED Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Anyone selling "Shadow President" on CD-ROM? If so, please give me a mailing address and amount so I can send you and order. Shipping will be via U.S. Snailmail.... thanks. Al --- * RM 1.0 00805 * Excellent day to have a rotten day. --- FidoPCB v1.3 [ff125/a] * Origin: Afroline BBS - Maputo, Mocambique (5:7221/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1848 To: DARRELL CRONE Date: 08/22/93 9:21a Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: Darrell By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr. On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 09:21 >> this is a test if you recieve this please send me a reply... >> Thanks >> Darrell >> --- WM v3.01/93-0696 >> * Origin: (1:396/90.0) Zimbabwe here... Congratulations! ■ ■■■■RAVER■■■■ ■ --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: RAVE LAND, THE RAVERS' KINGDOM (The House Of RAVE, 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1849 To: WEE YUNG Date: 08/22/93 11:22a Subj: Re: CDROM forsale Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: Wee By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr. On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 09:22 Sunday August 08 1993, Wee Yung tells Janusz Surowka: WY> CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$195. WY> CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$279. WY> Magnetic Shieded Multimedia Stereo Speaker system $15 WY> MIDI cable for any sound card with Joystick port...............$19. WY> Price does not included shipping. WY> Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC WY> 16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra Sorry to barge in, but that Pan. 562B seems EXACTLY the same as a NEC I saw advertised some time ago, price included. Is it the same? Could you PLEASE, PLEEEEEEAAASSSEE tell me all there is to know about that specific drive and how it goes with a Sound Blaster Pro? THANX!!!! ■ ■■■■RAVER■■■■ ■ --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: RAVE LAND, THE RAVERS' KINGDOM (The House Of RAVE, 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1850 To: PETE MURRAY Date: 08/22/93 9:55a Subj: Re: Sound Blaster's CD ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: Pete By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr. On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 09:55 Thursday August 12 1993, Pete Murray tells All: PM> Yo All, PM> Has anyone heard about the new Sound Blaster CD ROM, MPC2, to PM> be put out in about three weeks for only $200 RETAIL???? I heard this PM> from a salesman at Egghead's and I have heard none other about it. Yo 2u2, Isn't this CD-ROM the Panasonic CR562B, 320ms 300ks 64K cache...? ■ ■■■■RAVER■■■■ ■ --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: RAVE LAND, THE RAVERS' KINGDOM (The House Of RAVE, 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1851 To: ALLEN BURLESON Date: 08/22/93 10:04a Subj: RE: WILLIE BEAMISH CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: Allen By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr. On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 10:04 Thursday August 12 1993, Allen Burleson tells Sam Fertitta: AB> Hi Sam, AB> Thanks for the mini-review. Maybe that's part of the reason the AB> computer fairs have it for $18. Speaking of the price, I noticed AB> "Space Quest 4" is in the same price range. You know if that's decent? AB> Either way, I think both cd's would be a good buy. AB> Allen Sorry to barge in, but I have to say this: SQ4 was one of the best and certainly most challenging games I've EVER played, and I've finished A LOT!! The graphics are very good, the sound (all I know is SB) is good, and the game has a lot of originality, like you travel in time and end up in SQ1!! Buy it eyes closed, and if you need any hints just ask. You should also consider SQ5, which is also pretty darn good. Hope this helps you in your quest! :-) Bye! ■ ■■■■RAVER■■■■ ■ --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: RAVE LAND, THE RAVERS' KINGDOM (The House Of RAVE, 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1852 To: MARK WOMACK Date: 08/22/93 10:09a Subj: Re: Loom on CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: Mark By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr. On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 10:09 Wednesday August 11 1993, Mark Womack tells John Serrano: JS>> I just bought an NEC CD-ROM drive that came bundled with software, JS>> notably LucasArts "Loom." It's a great game, but the only problem JS>> is that I need a hint on how to get out of a sticky situation. You JS>> see, I've made it as far as the foundry-I'm in it, but since the JS>> person with whom I've exchanged identies died (meaning I no longer JS>> look like him), I'm basically stuck inside, listening to the JS>> conversation between the foreman and the Bishop, as well as the JS>> incessant pounding by Edgewise:) JS>> Thanks for your assistance, MW> John, I'm stuck in exactly the same place!!! I don't seem to be able MW> to get out of this one. It took me a while to get INTO the foundry MW> (grin). I think we need to do something to the woodbin. I don't know MW> what but it's about the only thing that we can click on and I've MW> already done everything to the door and straw that I can do. I know, hold on, let me find it.... Ready: You should be trapped in a dark room, resting and without your magic stick. The kid has become a ghost and Hetchel manages to escape from the rip in the sky. She takes your stick and gives it to you from under the door, you take it. use the 'OPENING' melody on the door, and cast the 'emptying' melody backwards on the woodbin. Go down the stairs and listen to the conversation. Suddenly the two guys who were talking will ask the blacksmith how the work was proceeding, and he will lift the sword. Cast the 'SHARPENING' melody backwards on the sword, they will see you and put you in a cage. When the Mandible stops talking, use the 'opening' on the cage. Then the "boss" will take your stick and leave you with a servant. When the servant disappears for being too curious, look at the crystal ball 3 times and exit on the balcony. Talk to Mandible, watch the animation and when he dies pick up the stick and go to the other room. Run from the monster and when you fall into the whole use the 'opening' melody backwards...... Good luck! ■ ■■■■RAVER■■■■ ■ --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: RAVE LAND, THE RAVERS' KINGDOM (The House Of RAVE, 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1853 To: DON ROBINSON Date: 08/22/93 10:32a Subj: Re: Space quest help... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: Don By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr. On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 10:32 Thursday August 12 1993, Don Robinson tells All: DR> I just bought Space Quest IV for CD-ROM, and have had quite a few DR> problems.. DR> * First, when I'm playing, it says Space Quest XI.. ???? It's normal... You see, the game is basically about time travel, and you start from SQ XI!! After a while you'll even go to SQ1 and others. It's cool! DR> * When I try to install it, it INSISTS that I pick a voice digitizing DR> card.. I have no voice or sound card.. Does it require one? When I DR> try to run it, it says it can't find one, and plays music through DR> the speaker, but when I walk up to a guy to talk to him, it just stops DR> there.. His face moves around, and I can exit the program, but DR> that's it. Weird, I'm sorry I can't help you on that. Bye! ■ ■■■■RAVER■■■■ ■ --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: RAVE LAND, THE RAVERS' KINGDOM (The House Of RAVE, 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1854 To: ERIC LOTT Date: 08/22/93 10:39a Subj: Re: Cd-Rom Help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: ERIC By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr. On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 10:39 Friday August 13 1993, HENRY PAUL writes to ERIC LOTT: ->> I really need some advice and help concerning CD-ROM. Right now I ->> have a 386/DX40 with 4 megs RAM, a 330 meg HD, and a SB Pro. I'm ->> trying to decide if I should upgrade to a 486 (33 or 66), or get ->> into CD-ROM. People (who don't know alot) have told me that the SB ->> will only work with the Creative Lab's drive (Panasonic), is this ->> true? Basically, I'd like to know what some of you would do, ->> upgrade the CPU, or go for the drive, keeping in mind that I am an ->> avid game player. Hey, I have a 386DX/40 with SB PRO too. I am considering a CD-ROM as well, and until a short time ago I was thinking towards a MITSUMI LU-005, but since my budged went a bit higher now I think I'll buy the NEW Panasonic CR562B, 300ks 320ms and 64K cache. I saw it for US$276, a bargain!! It supposedly connects directly to the SBPRO, so there is no need to use up another slot for a controller. Tell me what you think.... Bye! ■ ■■■■RAVER■■■■ ■ --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: RAVE LAND, THE RAVERS' KINGDOM (The House Of RAVE, 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1855 To: JOHN KORTINK Date: 08/22/93 10:44a Subj: Re: Loom on CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: John By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr. On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 10:44 Friday August 13 1993, John Kortink tells John Serrano: Hi John! JK> I can also recommend Loom. Monkey Island is good too (and lasted a bit JK> longer with me). I recently bought 'Day of the tentacle', a JK> cartoon-like game which is very nice too (seems to be quite big JK> graphics- and plot-wise). All these games are from LucasArts. Makes JK> you think ... Have you tried 'Monkey Island 2, LeChuck's Revenge' and 'Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis?' They're simply GREAT!!!! ■ ■■■■RAVER■■■■ ■ --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: RAVE LAND, THE RAVERS' KINGDOM (The House Of RAVE, 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1856 To: AGUINALDO CRUZ Date: 08/22/93 10:47a Subj: Re: Free Catalog Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: Aguinaldo By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr. On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 10:47 Wednesday August 11 1993, Aguinaldo Cruz tells Chris Conklin: CC>> C-3 Production Systems is now online. If you would like to CC>> receive catalog of CD-ROM disks at discount prices, leave message CC>> here, give me a call or write to the address below. Please send a catalog to: Giuliano Maciocci Jr. 34 Clairvood Rd. Alexandra Park Harare-Zimbabwe Thanks ■ ■■■■RAVER■■■■ ■ --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: RAVE LAND, THE RAVERS' KINGDOM (The House Of RAVE, 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1857 To: EDWARD PALMER Date: 08/22/93 10:49a Subj: Re: Duplicate Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: Edward By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr. On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 10:49 Friday August 13 1993, Edward Palmer tells Moderator: EP> Lately I've noticed a plague of old messages reappearing in this echo. EP> There were a bunch from zone 2, but there were also some from zone 1. EP> No wonder this echo is so big, it's full of echos!! Is this EP> problem being worked on? EP> --- GEcho 1.00 I noticed the problem here in Harare too! ■ ■■■■RAVER■■■■ ■ --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: RAVE LAND, THE RAVERS' KINGDOM (The House Of RAVE, 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1858 To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/22/93 10:52a Subj: Re: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: Rowan By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr. On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 10:52 Friday August 13 1993, Rowan Evans tells Giuliano Maciocci Jr.: Hi Rowan! RE> You're confused.... An SVGA card with 1Mb on it is capable of RE> displaying 65,536 colours in 640x480 resolution in Windows.... SVGA is RE> basically anything over a 64Kb VGA card (640x480x16).... and that RE> includes the additional colour depth..... Gosh, so a VGA with 1MEG can display all those colours AT ONCE??? Sounds too good to be true, but maybe.... I have a TRIDENT 8900c, 1 MEG. Can I do that display? With what drivers? Please someone clear my mind!! Bye! ■ ■■■■RAVER■■■■ ■ --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: RAVE LAND, THE RAVERS' KINGDOM (The House Of RAVE, 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1859 To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 08/22/93 10:56a Subj: Re: DOS 6.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: Janusz By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr. On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 10:56 Thursday August 12 1993, Janusz Surowka tells Greg Haskins: JS> they added a memory manager, hard disk compression utility, anti-virus JS> for windows, backup for windows(uses compression, excellent), and alot JS> more other goodies ...The hard disk compression utility is buggy, the memory manager doesn't match QEMM, the backup is pathetic an doesn't work well, the antivirus doesn't match McAffee SCAN, move and deltree have been around for ages.... The whole thing can F@$* your HD... Nice! ■ ■■■■RAVER■■■■ ■ --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: RAVE LAND, THE RAVERS' KINGDOM (The House Of RAVE, 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1860 To: STEPHEN EATON Date: 08/22/93 11:03a Subj: Re: CD-Rom Problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: Stephen By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr. On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 11:03 Friday August 13 1993, Stephen Eaton tells Giuliano Maciocci Jr.: Hi stephen! GMJ>> Well, judging from the load of trouble DOS6 has been GMJ>> causing worldwide, you could always go back to DOS5, GMJ>> like I did. Just a suggestion. SE> I did, but No difference, I ended up finding the card had stuffed up. SE> Oh well you get that on the big jobs ! SE> Stephen... Yep... Anyway, I'd stick with DOS5 anyway, card or not card. Bye! ■ ■■■■RAVER■■■■ ■ --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: RAVE LAND, THE RAVERS' KINGDOM (The House Of RAVE, 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1861 To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 08/22/93 11:06a Subj: Re: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: Leslie By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr. On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 11:06 Saturday August 14 1993, Leslie Rhorer tells Giuliano Maciocci Jr.: GM>> Yes, well. They are available if that's what you mean, GM>> but they sure aren't that AFFORDABLE, are they? By the LR> Compared to what? I have a system that easily exceeds all the LR> specs given. Leslie, the fact that you have such a system does not make it any cheaper. BTW, my SVGA card is a stinking 8-bit, alias 256 colors AFAIK. ■ ■■■■RAVER■■■■ ■ --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: RAVE LAND, THE RAVERS' KINGDOM (The House Of RAVE, 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1862 To: DIANA KIRKSEY Date: 08/22/93 11:11a Subj: Re: new mpc specs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: Diana By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr. On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 11:11 Sunday August 15 1993, Diana Kirksey tells Rowan Evans: DK> I have a Trident 1Meg SVGA card and it's capable of having app. DK> 262,000 colors(1024x768x256 are the specs).You can also install the DK> windows driver for smaller(something like 640x800 or something,can't DK> remember exactly) but you still get the full 256 colors.You need to DK> have the actual card driver installed though,not just the "VGA" they DK> have in the Windows setup. Thanks Diana, but I am afraid there has been a missunderstanding. Let me tell you what I know, and please do correct me if I am wrong: A TRIDENT 8900c is an 8-bit card, thus it can display 256 colors simultaneously out of a pallette of 262,000. Yes, I can display the 256 in 1024*768 mode, but there is to my knowledge NO WAY I can display the full pallette at one time. Bye! ■ ■■■■RAVER■■■■ ■ --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: RAVE LAND, THE RAVERS' KINGDOM (The House Of RAVE, 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 1863 To: MICHAEL BERNSTEIN Date: 08/22/93 11:15a Subj: Re: SPACE QUEST HELP... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: Michael By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr. On: Sunday August 22 1993 at 11:15 Sunday August 15 1993, Michael Bernstein tells Don Robinson: MB> future like Space Quest XII--Vohauls Revenge II (wait until you get to MB> Space Quest X--Latex Babes of Estros...WOW!) Good luck and most Yep...! I liked that part too! ■ ■■■■RAVER■■■■ ■ --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: RAVE LAND, THE RAVERS' KINGDOM (The House Of RAVE, 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROB MCINTYRE Number: 1864 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/27/93 2:03p Subj: CD LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Oh... Pity. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: *** Electronic Encounters - Ottawa Ontario, Canada *** (1:163/133) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC ESKAM Number: 1865 To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 3:48p Subj: Help with MSCDEX Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Anyone have a text file laying around that explains the switches for MSCDEX? I would be most appriciative... Eric --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Choice BBS, Las Vegas, NV 702-253-6527 HST DS 16.8k (1:209/710) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN TUCKY Number: 1866 To: ALL Date: 08/21/93 2:17p Subj: CD-ROM distributor Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The following is a master distributor of Software Toolworks: Clayton B. Guy Laser Resources Inc. 20620 S. Leapwood Ave. Carson, CA 90746 800-535-2737 310-324-4444 ext. 19 They sell titles and bundles to dealers. Tell 'em Parma Compatibles sent 'ya. --- SLMAIL v2.15B-M (#0659) * Origin: BIZHOST BBS (1:157/562) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRAD JENSEN Number: 1867 To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 1:14p Subj: phone list cds Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I'm looking for a residential phone list Cd of at least the eastern USA that can be read by a program in dbase or btrieve format. DOes such a thing exist? --- Fastecho b0809 * Origin: Hurricane Alley BBS (1:170/250) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROB LEVINE Number: 1868 To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 8:54p Subj: Phone Directory CD's for MAC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! Need a residential phone directory CD that will run on a MAC. Know of any? ProPhone does not currently come in a MAC format. Rob --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Infection Connection * Waterford,NY (1:267/139) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1869 To: DOUG DAGGER Date: 08/26/93 5:23a Subj: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I'm new to CD-ROM's and was wondering what kind I should get. I'm -> and on a limited budget. If anyone has info on any CD-ROM which woul -> under say $700, and has the best sound and graphics for that price, p -> tell me. Have you heard of the Mitsumi? Many of us have them. They are about $185 if you look around. Then you will want a sound card. ATI Stereo F/X CD directly interfaces with the Mitsumi. About $145 for the card. We didn't havea big budget either, went with the above and are VERY satisfied. I am 17 myself. :) Hope this helps, Henry * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377 --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0051] * Origin: This Old House * D.S. 16.8 * Tacoma Wa (1:138/173) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1870 To: VID KID Date: 08/26/93 5:25a Subj: Mitsumi CD-Rom drives Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> From what i heard there was a module available for the mitsum -> that would enable you to connect a soundcard. But without that module -> will not work with a soundcard. From all the information i have gathe -> the last few months about the mitsumi. The modules between $50-70. I -> only seen one place that had it available. But cant seem to remember -> Try contacting mitsumi and they might be able to tell you where to g All you need to do is plug the 4wire cable onto the controller and then to the drive. Then plug a cable from the RCA jacks to your MIC port on the sound card, turn on th MIXER and away you go....! * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377 --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0051] * Origin: This Old House * D.S. 16.8 * Tacoma Wa (1:138/173) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1871 To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/26/93 5:31a Subj: Re: Cd-rom Games Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> TS>You should hear it with a Soundblaster Pro (for sound Fx) and a So -> TS>Canvas (for music)! What a combination! Awesome! -> -> You're using two soundcards in the same machine at the same time -> and the game knows which output goes where? Yes, the sound Canvas is a Roland MIDI Sound Module. Most games now have a 'DUAL' driver to run a Roland (only Music) and a SB compat. (effects & speech)... Hope this clears the air! Henry * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377 --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0051] * Origin: This Old House * D.S. 16.8 * Tacoma Wa (1:138/173) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HENRY PAUL Number: 1872 To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/26/93 9:35a Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Ashwin!, Do you have any Sierra CD-ROMS you don't want anymore? I would like to take them off your hands if possible! :) TTYL, Henry P. S. I have a Mitsumi too! * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377 --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0051] * Origin: This Old House * D.S. 16.8 * Tacoma Wa (1:138/173) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK WOMACK Number: 1873 To: TOM GUELKER Date: 08/24/93 8:47p Subj: Cd-rom Help! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi TOM, TG> Mark, it might be psychological, but they sure do sound better on my TG> $2000 computer than my $600 rack system! I don't doubt that you perceive a difference at all, I was just interested in what would make that difference. Is the software you speak of a digtal-to-analog converter? If that were the case, there could be a real difference depending upon phase correction and oversampling rates. Please tell me more... ... "I tried to contain myself but I escaped." --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Zero's Palace BBS - Goldsboro, NC. 1-919-735-4362 (1:3660/801.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 1874 To: ROB MCINTYRE Date: 08/27/93 4:11p Subj: Cd Liquidation! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RM> What is the JEDI Collection ? Is it a Star Wars library ? RM> It is a 3 disc educational set. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: MAXspeed BBS * 486/66 Mhz ain't FAST enough..!! (1:362/119) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 1875 To: MAHMUT KURSUN Date: 08/27/93 4:15p Subj: Pressing CDROM, what-to-do Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MK> -Dont put Wolfenstein 3D on your CDROM (forbidden in Germany) I could see why since the game consists of killing German Nazis.....I'm sure they find that offensive. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: MAXspeed BBS * 486/66 Mhz ain't FAST enough..!! (1:362/119) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 1876 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/27/93 4:17p Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 SPECIALS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MS> ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS! IT'S HERE! IT'S SHIPPING! IT'S HOT! MS> AND IT'S 680+MB OF PURE 93 SHAREWARE! You make it sound like it's brand spanking new. It has been shipping for quite some time now <g d & r>. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: MAXspeed BBS * 486/66 Mhz ain't FAST enough..!! (1:362/119) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 1877 To: JACK YONG Date: 08/27/93 4:18p Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JY> Hi there, I'm opening a BBS and thought a CD-ROM JY> would be a nice offer to users, do you guys have JY> any offers for me, or maybe some offers? Call our BBS at 615-478-2890 HST or 615-479-1047 14400 and download PCJCDS.ZIP. You'll find some of the lowest prices around and a full selection of about every type of CD you would want to run on a BBS. We also have file lists available for about every CD that is out that has one. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: MAXspeed BBS * 486/66 Mhz ain't FAST enough..!! (1:362/119) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 1878 To: CHRIS SNYDER Date: 08/27/93 4:21p Subj: CSS CD Price List Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CS> Do you match prices? CS> CS> --- FreeMail 1.07b We match most any prices on regularly priced CDROM discs (an probably even on sale prices) that you will see here in the echos. Call our BBS at 615-478-2890 HST or 615-479-1047 14400 and download PCJCDS.ZIP for our catalog. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: MAXspeed BBS * 486/66 Mhz ain't FAST enough..!! (1:362/119) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 1879 To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 4:25p Subj: weekly cdrom specials Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No PCJ "Hot" WEEKLY SPECIALS 8/26 - 8/31 Microsoft Bookshelf (Windows MPC)........................ 44.95 ProPhone 1993 (7 CD Set - Business & Residential)........ 94.95 Prophone 1992 (3 CD Set - 1 Business & 2 Residential).... 34.95 Software Toolworks Bundles: US & World Atlas/Animals/Reference Library/Grolier's...... 72.95 US & World Atlas/Animals/Reference Library/Grolier's MPC.. 84.95 Orders - 800-547-7817 (9 - 9 EST) or 615-339-0235 (24 Hours) --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: MAXspeed BBS * 486/66 Mhz ain't FAST enough..!! (1:362/119) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RAY DYER Number: 1880 To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/26/93 2:15p Subj: Re: BBS Shareware CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting HENRY PAUL to RAY DYER <=- HP> That's weird. I have discs with all kinds of scratches and they play It may be some software interrupt problem on my system. I just it out recently with all CD's affected. The CD can be read but it is slow. Running on 386-SX-33, 16 bit card. Native audio CD's run without problems as the drive takes control. ... We now return to our regularly scheduled flame-throwing. --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: TIBM Wizard. Echomail Hub(416)7436703 (1:250/401.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RAY DYER Number: 1881 To: VINCE SORENSEN Date: 08/27/93 7:28a Subj: Re: NIGHT OWL 9 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No It looks like a good idea. Thanks for the message. I finally convinced the store to lower their prices and they did once I shown a few mail order message ads from this echo and forced them to contact to find out the real story. ... Sorry, the Dog ate my Blue Wave packet. --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: TIBM Wizard. Echomail Hub(416)7436703 (1:250/401.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 1882 To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 5:12a Subj: Night Owl 9 $25 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No N i g h t O w l 9 . 0 ****************************************************************** ********* ********* *********** $ 25.00 a Copy !!! *********** ********* ********* *********** *********** ********* Ask for Barney ********* *********** ------------------ *********** ********* 1-800-638-5757 ********* *********** *********** ********* We Will NOT be out Sold ********* *********** *********** ****************************************************************** N i g h t O w l 9 . 0 BBS Ready - Has Files.bbs --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: The Softwares Zone (1:231/570) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRUCE BOWMAN Number: 1883 To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 6:22p Subj: Nix Pix CD's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Where can I obtain Nix Pix CD-ROM's? I'm particularly interested in a CD that would contain the full-size GIFs represented by the "L" series of catalog gifs on some of the other Nix Pix CDs. Thanks. --- FreeMail/QuickBBS 2.76a Ovr * Origin: ** The H.O.M.E. BBS (317)539-6579 ** (1:231/710) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON RIEB Number: 1884 To: STEVE PESANT Date: 08/26/93 8:20a Subj: Re: Thanks Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 23 Aug 93 21:10:16, Steve Pesant said the following to Don Rieb^ Regarding: Thanks SP> Hi there Don SP> SP> Well I would just like to thank-you for the quick response...and for sendin SP> me your price list...Thanks. SP> SP> -=Cheers=- SP> Steve. SP> SP> SP> --- Maximus/2 2.01wb SP> * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070 Your quite wellcome. I should have another new catalog comming out soon. You are on the mailing list so you will recive it when it is ready. ** Don ** --- Renegade v07-17 Beta * Origin: FREQ or DLOAD CDROMCAT.ZIP from 708-724-2427 10Gig (1:115/724) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WAYNE MAJORS Number: 1885 To: CHARLES HART Date: 08/27/93 1:47p Subj: Re: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Aug 23 21:10>, Charles Hart writes to Michael Hajovsky: MH> Hear, Hear. I am all for it. If you disagree with the MH> prohibition of free speech just leave the country, or be MH> removed from the society. Now, since we have democrats in the CH> As has been made very clear to me, an Echo is _not_ a democracy. Yep.. but even in a democracy, the other person's freedom stops at the end of my nose.... It doesn't include the right to punch my nose or to walk your dog on my carpet.. nor to sell porn on my BBS through this echo... It's great to live in a country where we can stand up and say "no" to those who would empty their toilets on our dining tables and call it their freedom.. and it's great to have an echo for CD ROM that has a moderator with the grit to say "no". Thanks Bob! --- * Origin: The WordShop/2 - Ponca City, OK - We love OS/2! (1:19/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADRIAN VERGOT Number: 1886 To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 8:24a Subj: Make Your own CDs! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM? CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your DOS or Windows computer files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and AFFORDABLE! All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information (up to 650 Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (or in certain circumstances 3.5" floppies) and we will directly transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any ISO compliant CD-ROM drive. - Confidentiality is assured - $99 per CD-ROM - additional copies only $50 each - Turn around time is about 2 days - BBS Sysops call for special rates If interested, call (412) 942-4694 and ask for Adrian Vergot. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The LAIR * Home of Pink Floyd!!! * 412-771-9218 (1:129/133) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TAMI THOMPSON Number: 1887 To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 08/27/93 7:28p Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROM'S [A] Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi! I didn't see [B], and I had a title in mind that would have shown up in that part, so I guess I'll ask! Do you happen to have Ocean Life? If so, which Volumes and how much? Thanks for your time!!! And you might want to try posting the [B] section again - FYI! -Tami p.s. This CDROM is by Sumeria. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Icarus (319)337-9878 SDS/UTILNET/WINnet/DVNet/OS2 (1:283/657) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DARRELL DAVIS Number: 1888 To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/27/93 3:50p Subj: Re: CD-ROM BUNDLES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >-> I was also looking at the Fusion 16 package, however I found out it >-> is an 800ms drive that is not Kodak ready so have decided against it. >-> If you have a "Software Etc." store near you, they have that package >-> priced at $399. > > That is discusting 800ms? Geez you can get a 320ms 300kb/sec transfer >562b panasonic with sound blaster 16 and kodak photo cd access disc for >around the $399 price. Sounds like their trying to sell some people old >technology for the same price as new technology drives. I just ordered a Fusion 16 package with a 380 ms drive. I ordered it directly from Media Vision. Most of the retail stores seem to have older packages on the shelves. The package was $399 with $9 shipping. Darrell --- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1561) * Origin: The Searchlight Cafe (901)387-1731 *** (1:123/60) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM CLEMENTS Number: 1889 To: DAVID BURKE Date: 08/27/93 6:37a Subj: THE *GOOD* OLD DAYS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario DB> ^^^ DB> I have gotten back a lot of messages that it is a good idea, Thanks DB>for yours. By the way... I worte a program called CRS (well the DB>installation creats that directory and CRS starts the program) or DB>"Cattle Registry System" that would not be what the CRS stands for DB>hummmm guess not, just thought it interesting. Heh-heh, that is interesting, David. In this case CRS stands for Canada Remote Systems which added the word Online to emphasize its telecommunications. CRS is the largest PCBoard in North America, some 9,000 paid members, 200 plus telephone lines, more than 6,000 conferences, host of North America Net (NANET) and now working on satellite feeds to member BBSs. I'm biased. I think it is a very good BBS. DB>PS: There are 1000s of CDROM DISC out there now... as little as $4. I agree. I have more than 100, and there were a couple under $20 -- a couple that were giveaways at computer shows. The best part is, we ain't seen nothin' yet! Cheers! --- * DeLuxe* 1.12 #4703 * --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1890 To: JIM CLEMENTS Date: 08/27/93 12:46p Subj: THE *GOOD* OLD DAYS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I agree. I have more than 100, and there were a couple under $20 -- a -> couple that were giveaways at computer shows. The best part is, we -> ain't seen nothin' yet! Cheers! There are also clearance sales on the bbs also. I've seen commercial software going for $13 u.s. a pop like willy beamish,mayo clinic,space quest 4, us atlas w/automap, family doctor then seen other slightly higher specials for $18 which are laura long bow2 the slightly newer titles. It is fantastic games can become so humungous and eventually drop to under $20 like kings quest 6 for example will eventually drop to under $20 in a year same with 7th guest and the reason why is they can put so much info on the cdrom disc and yet pay the same price $1 as oposed to diskettes they have to pay 40-50 cents per disk if they have 10 disks thats $4 $3 difference means a lot if you double it twice at the distributor and retail end its more like $12 u.s. saved. But it is fantastic cd's have become very affordable almost to the point that they cost as much as music cd's and for games to be that price people can afford to buy lots of software instead of only a few. If cdrom software were expensive i wouldn't have even bothered buying a cdrom in the first place. Louis --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LABELLA Number: 1891 To: NIRAV SHETH Date: 08/27/93 2:16p Subj: Re: FrEe CaTaLoG Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Nirav Sheth to All <=- NS> For a free catalog.... Good prices... Ex. MSBookshelf $60.... So on Please send me a catalogue PO Box 7011 Station A Toronto, Ontario Canada M4L 1X7 ... Pardon Me, But Would You Have Any Blue Poupon? ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: YVES DESJARDINS Number: 1892 To: DEVIN WOOD Date: 08/27/93 7:04a Subj: NEC CDR-84 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Devin! 26 Aug 93 12:51, Devin Wood wrote to Those In The Know: DW> I've been considering this drive. I have a concern though. I'm a DW> quadriplegic and can't move my fingers. I need a drive with a caddy so DW> I don't ruin my CDs. I'm trying to find out about the doors. Needing DW> to use both hands to insert ther disk, I won't be able to hold a door DW> open while I do it. How are the doors set up? I have this drive and I think you are out of luck. I find it pretty hard to insert a CD in it with only one hand, however I'm sure it can be done. Where there is a will there is a way.... The front door is spring loaded and you must hold it down to insert the CD in it. After pushing it just a bit, the CD is sucked into the drive by itself. I must admit though you have made an excellent choice of drive. I just love mine. Yves --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: Excalibur - Regina, Sk. (306)949-8605 (1:140/23.3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: YVES DESJARDINS Number: 1893 To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/27/93 7:13a Subj: CD-ROM BUNDLES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Louis! 26 Aug 93 12:51, Louis Ghinis wrote to David M. White: LG> That is discusting 800ms? Geez you can get a 320ms 300kb/sec transfer LG> 562b panasonic with sound blaster 16 and kodak photo cd access disc for LG> around the $399 price. Sounds like their trying to sell some people old LG> technology for the same price as new technology drives. LG> Louis LG> -+- FidoPCB v1.4 beta LG> + Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) That's exactly what Fusion 16 bundle is. Fusion 16 was out at the same time as the original SB bundle. The new PAStudio bundle is what it should be compared with. And this is what he should be buying also.... Yves --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: Excalibur - Regina, Sk. (306)949-8605 (1:140/23.3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON BOSMAN Number: 1894 To: BRENDAN FARTHING Date: 08/27/93 1:36a Subj: Aust. Phone Disc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BF>and the one that sells for about $50.00 (This one is called BF>Australian Phone Disk). BF>The one that sells for $50 contains the entire Yellow and BF>White Pages for every state in Australia. BF>Why is there such a HUGE price difference between that disk BF>and the $1500.00 one ?????? I'm not familiar with the Australian version, but the U.S.A. difference is accuracy. ProPhone 93 for instance is $100 US and not one listing I checked is fully accurate. My residential phone is four years out of date, and my business, which has been in the yellow pages for about six years is not listed. For about $900. US one can buy a more up to date disc and sign up for the update service. All extra of course. ___ X OLX 2.2 X If you want to kill time, work it to death. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Lighthouse CBCS HST/V.32, 150+ echos, 517-321-0788 (1:159/950) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SHAUN RADER Number: 1895 To: DIANA KIRKSEY Date: 08/27/93 5:35p Subj: 7th guest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No <<***** DIANA KIRKSEY wrote this on 08-24─93 {May be edited} *****>> ─>Eeks! You only got 1% with your Trident Video Card?! I guess I'd bette ─>stop complaining about getting 40% with my Trident 8900 Video Card. Yeah, I got 1%, how did you get 40%? I have the Trident 8900 card too! What type of computer do you have? I have the Diamond Stealth now, which is great in Windows, but I still have my Trident (as a backup). -Shaun Rader- -Madman@Liberty.Com- 08/27/93 13:14 --- * CmpQwk 1.13 #141 * "Call waiting", great if you have two friends --- DB 1.39/004485 * Origin: The Diamond Bar BBS - 909-923-1031 - Ontario, CA (1:218/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK RUSKO Number: 1896 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/27/93 10:37p Subj: Trantor Scsi Controller Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BRICE FLECKENSTEIN duly noted in a message to LARRY FOX on 08-18-1993 and mentioned BF> >BG> with the way it works. My suggestion is to spend an additional US$130 or BF> >BG> and get an Adaptec 1520 or 1522. The CorelSCSI drivers run it just fine. BF> >BG> No driver needed to run hard drives. BF> BF> >Thanks Bill I beleive I may purchase the Adaptec controller.. Sounds like a BF> >wise investment in the long run! BF> BF> Only if you plan to run OS/2 in the near future - otherwise, save yourself BF> some BF> $$ and a LOT of support grief and get an Allways IN-2000. BF> BF> I've RUN the Adaptec stuff - nice controllers, but I could get NO support out BF> of Adaptec, even as a DEALER. Always I never NEEDED support for - they just BF> WORK! Hello Bruce.. Pardon me for jumping in here,,but Adaptec has really cleaned up their act as far as tech support is concerned..They now have an 800 number. 1-800-959-SCSI and they have been *very* helpful to date..Just to stay on topic, I attached a Toshiba 3401 external to the 1542b and it was the easiest install I have done.. I now have access to the CD in DOS,Win and OS/2....Frank BTW I had an Always and dumped it for the Adaptec.... Entered on <<08-18-1993>> from Shawnigan Lake B.C. --- FastEcho/386 B0617 * Origin: (1:340/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 1897 To: KEN TULLY Date: 08/26/93 7:35p Subj: Busty Ver. 1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KT=>I have a copy of Busty Babes Version 1.0 for sale to the Highest bidder. Y KT=>can call me Voice at 203-387-3174, Fax at 203-387-3306 or BBS at 203-387-32 KT=> Ken... KT=>I forgot to mention.. This is an autographed copy with Lee and Blaines KT=>signature. I have been offered $250. for it so far and will be selling soo KT=>so if anyone is interested let me know soon, or you will loose out.. Excuse me, But what is the big deal? This is not meant to funny, I really want to know, I have read messages where it says the "original version"...??? Or something like that, is there a difference? Regards, Adrian Salas * QMPro 1.50 00-0000 * Don't Steal. The government hates competition --- WM v3.00/91-0098 * Origin: Uni-Rom BBS - San Diego <USA> - (619) 279-4774 (1:202/920.0) (1:20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 1898 To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 7:37p Subj: Cd-rom catalogs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi! I have seen various messages offering free CD-Rom catalogs. Please send any CD-Rom Catalogs to my following address: Adrian Salas 2434 East 32nd Street, National City, CA 91950-7710 * QMPro 1.50 00-0000 * WORF! Please show these Children the Airlock... --- WM v3.00/91-0098 * Origin: Uni-Rom BBS - San Diego <USA> - (619) 279-4774 (1:202/920.0) (1:20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 1899 To: DONATO RABAGO Date: 08/26/93 4:41p Subj: Shipping? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DR:>I am from Guadalajara Jalisco., MEXICO, and I would like to know if you can DR:>ship any CD-ROM to México. If you can I would like a price list, please sen DR:>it DR:>--- SuperBBS 1.17-3 (Eval) DR:> * Origin: *CyberNet* BBS [IDS] / Guadalajara, Mexico (4:970/1) Call Ismail Arslangiray of Groupware. I live in Monterrey Nuevo Leon, MEXICO and I receive CD'S here. I have an address in Laredo Tx, but I know you have to pay a little more to receive in México. Maybe if you like a CD-ROM here in Mexico some vendors have a nice prices, here I buy a Mitsumi LUS005 it's a great CD-ROM Greetings from Monterrey N.L. México * QMPro 1.02 41-1025 * 8 of 10 people suffer hemorrhoids the other 2 enjoy them. --- * Origin: Creaturas de la Noche *IDS* [Monterrey México] (4:971/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 1900 To: LOYD CRAFT Date: 08/26/93 4:41p Subj: Custom Cdrom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No AS:>LC=> **** Digital Enterprises **** AS:>LC=> Custom CDROM Service Could you send a flyer to: Roberto Reyes 14422 Industry Av. Suite 7-54 Laredo, Tx.78041 * QMPro 1.02 41-1025 * 90% of any business transaction is selling yourself. --- * Origin: Creaturas de la Noche *IDS* [Monterrey México] (4:971/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 1901 To: GLEN PIWOARCZYK Date: 08/26/93 4:41p Subj: Free Cdrom Catalog! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Please send a catalog to: Roberto Reyes 14422 Industry Av. Suite 7-54 Laredo, Tx 78041 * QMPro 1.02 41-1025 * 90% of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at. --- * Origin: Creaturas de la Noche *IDS* [Monterrey México] (4:971/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1902 To: POE LIM Date: 08/23/93 8:44p Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Poe! On 08-21-93 Poe Lim wrote to Rowan Evans... PL> On Aug 18 20:41 in a msg to Don Kulha, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote: PL> PL> > You've stated your opinion..... I'm interested and responsive, but PL> > I need *FACT* not *OPINION* before I'll change my stance from PL> > recommending caddyless drives... PL> PL> The main advantage of a caddy system (IMHO) is when you frequently PL> swap disks; much easier having them in caddies, and merely shove PL> them in, then having to fiddle around with the case. You PL> can also leave a few of them around and not worry about scratches. You're a dealer aren't you Poe?? Its probably cheaper for you to get caddies than it is for the average user.... Most users I know of with caddy type drives can only afford one caddy... and they are amazed and impressed by the Panasonic.... Cheers! o /U\ ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1903 To: LESLIE THOMAS Date: 08/23/93 8:47p Subj: Mistumi/Sb/Sbpro Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Leslie! On 08-20-93 Leslie Thomas wrote to Rowan Evans... LT> RE> On 08-15-93 HENRY PAUL wrote to MARK WOMACK... LT> RE> LT> RE> HP> Okay, this jack IS for the speaker wire. It sends the sound LT> RE> HP> from SB to the internal speaker. This is ONLY if you do not LT> RE> HP> have external speakers. (it just ruins the sound when it LT> RE> HP> goes through the puny thing) LT> RE> LT> RE> According to my SB16 ASP manual, JP11 is an *INPUT* connector, LT> RE> with +5V on pin 1 and data on pin 2..... LT> LT> LT> According to my SB Pro manual JP11 is the Share DMA Jumper; JP3 is LT> the speaker "output". LT> LT> Pin 1 LT> SPKR - Speaker output right channel. Maximum output voltage is 3V LT> rms at 4 ohms LT> LT> Pin 2 LT> SPKRR - Speaker ouput return signal for right channel LT> LT> LT> Obviously different connections for different boards. BTW the Sound LT> Blaster Pro does not support a connection from the MB to the card. Nor does the SB16 ASP support the Speaker Out connection.... o /U\ ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1904 To: ERIC HSIAO Date: 08/23/93 8:50p Subj: Re: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Eric! On 08-20-93 Eric Hsiao wrote to Rowan Evans... EH> I've seen a PAS-16/Toshiba 3401B combo advertised for $599 - EH> - considerably cheaper than the numbers you started EH> (>$1000). Then there's also the Fusion 16 Double Speed CD- EH> ROM version for around the same price which has a NEC drive EH> and a few CDs too. Yeah, well it comes of you picking on my quoting prices in Aussie dollars (I thought I put the $A in there!) and you quoting in US dollars..... Unfortunately we pay *MUCH* higher prices here - the Fusion CD 16 with Philips drive & proprietary bus PAS 16 is over $A1000.00 here (and that's not even a SCSI!)..... o /U\ ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1905 To: SAM JONES Date: 08/23/93 8:51p Subj: Problem Solved! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Sam! On 08-21-93 Sam Jones wrote to Rowan Evans... SJ> Hi, I solved my problem concerning the 562-b causing SJ> music in games to slow or pause while accessing the CD! SJ> Last night I downloaded a new version of SBCD.SYS. This SJ> new version is dated 6/93 while the one that came with my SJ> drive was dated 4/93! Is this the version you have? SJ> Anyway there may even be a newer version by now.<g> SJ> I am happy once again! And I love my SB16, WaveBlaster and SJ> 562-b as they are all excellent products both performance SJ> and price wise! A mate sent me a copy of the 4.1 beta driver.. I think its the same one... He said it was "much faster than the old driver".... so I tried it under DOS... saw similar throughput figures, so I went back to the non-beta driver..... I may have to re-visit this driver! Cheers! o /U\ ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1906 To: LOONG CHUNG Date: 08/23/93 9:12p Subj: Panasonic CDR-63 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Loong! On 08-20-93 Loong Chung wrote to All... LC> Could any one give me full details on the Panasonic CDR-563? LC> e.g. Speed, transfer rate etc. Panasonic CR563 (as OEMmed to Creative Labs, normally CR562B) Transfer Rate 300 Kbps in double speed mode 150 Kbps in single speed mode Avg Acess 320ms in single speed mode 450ms in double speed mode Motorised tray for CD-ROM. JEDIC connector for external DAT output CD Audio output Panasonic (Creative Labs) AT bus.... LC> And how much is it in Australia? I bought mine from Osborne in Sydney for $A395.00 including cables and 8 bit interface.... Cheers! o /U\ ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 1907 To: ED YEE Date: 08/23/93 9:18p Subj: CD sound Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Ed! On 08-20-93 Ed Yee wrote to All... EY> pin from the speakers. My question is, if I'm playing a EY> audio CD in windows and I trigger a system event which EY> plays a wav file, what will happen ? Will I see a nice EY> mini-firework display on my desk or will the sound just EY> "mingle" ? Sounds will just "mingle"..... EY> Also would it be easier it the adaptor I got EY> just had 2 RCA plugs and a male headphone connector EY> (connects CD-ROM controller directly to PAS+ sound card. EY> Would the sound just go throught the sound card and through EY> the speakers ? That'd be easier, but option 3 is even easier! That is, get the internal cable that goes from your CD-ROMs CD Audio out connector to the CD-ROM connector of the PAS 16! EY> I also have a friend with a 286 sytem with EY> the same CD-ROM drive, but she only has a regular Sound EY> Blaster 2.0 sound card. Would the last idea I mentioned EY> work on her computer. No, as I understand it the SoundBlaster 2.0 does not support an internal mixer function. The line in for the SB 2.0 is for recording purposes only! Cheers! o /U\ ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID SALTRICK Number: 1908 To: ALL Date: 08/23/93 10:29a Subj: CDROM Drivers Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Howdy... Anybody got any CDROM Drivers for the Mitsumi Drives?? in Brisbane that is?? If so leave a message or get in contect with me on my board, as stated in origin line!. Thanks in Advance David --- Ezycom V1.02 01fa005a * Origin: RAM TECH +61-7-356-5146 (21:15-06:30) (3:640/214.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL OUJESKY Number: 1909 To: JAMES MUNRO Date: 08/28/93 10:00a Subj: Sony driver for OS2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JM> Does any one know where I could get a driver for my SONY JM> CDU535 series. To enable me to run it with OS2 ver. 2.1. JM> Ihave to reboot dos all the time right now to run my CD. JM> thanks anyone who can help It was hatched into FWDRIVERS within the last couple of weeks. Check your local OS/2 BBS for it. Later... --- msgedsq 2.1 * Origin: Point of No Return - CPE-1704-TKS (1:124/6108.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LUIS CARVAJAL Number: 1910 To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 2:36p Subj: Kodak Photo CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone know what exactly should I need in order to see pictures from a CD? This is what I own: - A Soundblaster CD-ROM - Corel Draw 3.0 (I think this is also useful..) Thanks! Greetings, Luiyi --- * Origin: Rafa BBS. Madrid (Spain) (2:341/14.10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LUIS CARVAJAL Number: 1911 To: ALL Date: 08/22/93 2:40p Subj: Games Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi there, Has anyone seen 'The day of the tentacle' on CD?. How does it differ from the regular version? I have heard that 'Dragon's Lair' is about to be released for CD-ROM. Has anyone seen it yet? Do you know if it is going to be more of the same crap or it is going to be, finally, something close to the real thing, the coin-op machine?? Thanks, Greetings: Luiyi --- * Origin: Rafa BBS. Madrid (Spain) (2:341/14.10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOU PETRALIA Number: 1912 To: VID KID Date: 08/26/93 8:25p Subj: MITSUMI CD-ROM DRIVES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Vid Kid to Martin Roodenburg <=- VK> From what i heard there was a module available for the VK> mitsumi that would enable you to connect a soundcard. But without that VK> module it will not work with a soundcard. From all the information i VK> have gathered over the last few months about the mitsumi. The modules VK> between $50-70. I have only seen one place that had it available. But VK> cant seem to remember where. Try contacting mitsumi and they might be VK> able to tell you where to get it. VK> Vidkid I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say the mitsumi will not work with a sound card. My setup is a mitsumi and a pas16 and all my sound software works with no problem at all. Sure I gave up a slot for the mitsumi interface card but other than that all software that uses sound works with no problem at all including windows and the 7th guest. The only sound I don't get is in playing audio CD's and with the exception of the intro to the 7'th Guest, I haven't seen or heard a computer audio cdrom. As for playing audio CD's, why should I use my computer with it's 4W amp when I have my 150W system with a 6 cardgreg cd changer 10 feet away from my desk. I think what a lot a people forget is the sound card and the CD Drive are 2 seperate devices that can function independtly. I hate to see people pass up a CD Drive because they think that it will not work correctly or that they can't get sound if it's not directly connected to their sound card. ... It got better when the Swedish Bikini Team came. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: MicroFone 14 Gigs 16 Lines V.32b 908-494-8666 (1:107/331) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUGLAS NEUMAN Number: 1913 To: JACK YONG Date: 08/27/93 3:34p Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jack! In a message to All <08/25/93> Jack Yong wrote: JY> Hi there, I'm opening a BBS and thought a CD-ROM would be a nice offer to JY> users, do you guys have any offers for me, or maybe some offers? JY> --- Maximus/2 2.01wb JY> * Origin: The Corner Store (604)464-0231 -14.4K- (1:153/255) I have a NEC CDR-72 available for a small price of $130US that comes with its own controller, but it is a true scsi drive so it can be connected to a scsi controller. This is an external drive with access speed of 380 ms and transfer speed of upto 150K but it does not have internal circuitry to be MPC compatible. But for BBS use it would be an excellent drive. I will include software drivers that you will need for the NEC controller board that is being included. It also comes with 5 caddys. Call me at (914)351-3325 in the evening (after 6EDT) or at (201)818-3547 during the day. * WCE 1.10/2139 * Aw Honey... just one more message, honest... --- WM v3.01/92-0726 * Origin: Minolta DIStalk - *PROWL*, Fidonet - (1:2604/207) (1:2604/207.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NIRAV SHETH Number: 1914 To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 3:51p Subj: Free CD-ROM catalog Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey, Call (205)351-0072 or write: 2802 McDonald Ct. Decatur, AL 35603-8700 For a free catalog of CD-ROM's from Sigma World Inc. MSBookshelf=$60, and much more! Over 700 total titles.... Definitely cheap --- WM v3.01/92-0358 * Origin: Cyclone BBS! "Taking the World by Storm!" (1:3607/2.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL KONOR Number: 1915 To: STEVE MCKAIN Date: 08/26/93 4:04p Subj: Re: RE: SCSI CDROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >MK>>MK>Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00 >MK>> >MK>>Is this drive daisy chain able??? > >MK>Yes! The external case has two 50 pin centronics which can be >used for >MK>daisy chaining drives. > >Could you provide me with more information such as access time, >transfer >rates, reliability??? 300-320ms access (I'm getting 300), 156k transfer rate, very reliable. 205-837-5053 *FSED91j* --- Star-Net v1.02 * Origin: Inferno_205.837.7715&3990_16.8KDual_3.9GB_ADS (1:373/8.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL KONOR Number: 1916 To: STEVE MCKAIN Date: 08/26/93 4:05p Subj: Re: SCSI CDROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >MK>Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00 >MK>Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00 > >MK>Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac. Features 50 Pin >True SCSI, >MK>300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and 64k >Buffer. >MK>Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty > >MK>205-837-5053 anytime. > >Does this come with controller card and cables another words would >it be >ready to plug and play when it arrived??? You would need a true SCSI controller. This drive will hook up to any SCSI controller along with harddrives, scanners, etc... *FSED91j* --- Star-Net v1.02 * Origin: Inferno_205.837.7715&3990_16.8KDual_3.9GB_ADS (1:373/8.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL KONOR Number: 1917 To: BRIAN ELFERT Date: 08/26/93 4:06p Subj: Re: scsi cdrom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >-> Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00 > >Do you have SIX of these? Do they handle 650 meg CD-ROMS? Give me a call. Yes, I'm using a 690meg cdrom online now. *FSED91j* --- Star-Net v1.02 * Origin: Inferno_205.837.7715&3990_16.8KDual_3.9GB_ADS (1:373/8.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAUL SWIDER Number: 1918 To: NICK FUNK Date: 08/27/93 8:18p Subj: Panasonic 562 & Pro Stud Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 08-26-93 Nick Funk wrote to All... NF> Does anyone know if the new ProAudio Studio 16 by MediaVision SCSI NF> port NF> will work with the Panasonic CR-562 double speed drive. An if so are NF> the drivers included with the sound card. Nick, in a word ..NO! The CR-562 is a proprietary 40 pin interface and the PAS Studio 16 is a standard SCSI 50 pin interface. But, don't let that stop you from buying the CR-562 and an interface card for it (not another SOUND CARD) if you have an extra slot open in you computer and that is what you want. I just installed a CR-562b in my daughter's computer and it works quite well. The place I purchased it from, MPS Multimedia, Inc., sells the 562 for $249 and an interface card for $20. She had a SB16 sound card in her computer so I just bought the driver/cable kit for $20. If you are interested, check out, if you can, their ad in Sept's Computer Shopper page 569. Oh, by the way, the driver they supplied caused some "hiccups" on some audio stuff. I got the most recent one from Creative Labs BBS and everything works real nice now. >Paul< ... OFFLINE 1.50 "First the memory goes then...I forgot the rest!" --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Choice BBS, Las Vegas, NV 702-253-6527 HST DS 16.8k (1:209/710) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RONALD LEON Number: 1919 To: ALL Date: 08/28/93 1:42a Subj: Speedway Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Can an intelligent user of CD Speedway please post an ideal command line for the program. I'm having some difficulty tweaking the thing. I have a 486-25SX, Mitsumi drive & 8 meg of ram. Thanks in advance! Ron * SLMR 2.1 #2119 * hAS ANYONE SEEN MY cAPSLOCK KEY? --- WM v3.01/91-0114 * Origin: Mr. Bills Place BBS! ** Tampa, FL ** (813) 920-2193 (1:3603/170.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK SHOAF Number: 1920 To: DAVE BENHAM Date: 08/28/93 1:32a Subj: Re: Hitachi CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DB> I have a Hitachi CDR 3500 and when I play Audio CD's it sounds DB> real choppy... Could this be ebcause of the 8bit controller DB> card? I have a 486 66MHz DX2 VL-Bus machine. It's probably because of the slow transfer rate, 55 k/sec just doesn't cut it. I have a 386SX/16 and it's kinda choppy here too. Rick Shoaf ... What Bug! I left behind the roaches in New York! --- via Silver Xpress V3.02 [NR] * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:226/290) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ART MARKO Number: 1921 To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/28/93 2:45a Subj: RED HOT SPECIALS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BO>$$$$$$$ R E D H O T C D' S A T R E D H O T P R I C E S $$$$$$$ > MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE PRICE - $25.00ec The amateur models...is that an "R" or an X-title. I haven't seen that one described anywhere yet. Any info... BTW...your package came no problems...but the Post Office didn't get the proof of del'y card signed. All's well that end well though... Do you have NixPix 4?...$$?? Regards, Art --- ■ QMPro 1.02 41-4358 ■ Who is General Failure...and why is he reading my disk? --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: C.F.O.N.J. TBBS 2.2M - All HST 16.8/V.32B 908-486-2956 (1:107/932) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOSH PICHE Number: 1922 To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/28/93 8:44a Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thanks for the info. I do hope that the CD-ROM version is better than the disk based version. Most likely it will be. Can't wait 'till it's out! Josh Piche --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Tumbler's Tavern BBS, (613) 825-9302 (1:163/315) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1923 To: CR HAMILTON Date: 08/27/93 11:17p Subj: Night Owl 9 $25 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CH> N i g h t O w l 9 . 0 CH>Does this have the files.bbs format for use on the bbs? Sure does. All you want, IN STOCK at $25. Later, .\\ike STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5 orders: 800-767-1284 --- * SLMR 2.1a * This tagline will self-destruct in 5-million nanoseconds. --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1924 To: STEVE GERWECK Date: 08/27/93 11:17p Subj: CD Caddies Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SG>Who has the best price on new cd caddies? I don't know who has the *lowest* price, but we sell the superior quality Japanese Sony-style caddies at $4.99 each, or $4.79 for 10 or more. If you want to save a few pennies, you can go with the U.S. made units, but if you want the best, try these! Later, .\\ike STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5 --- * SLMR 2.1a * Used taglines for $ale - 8 bits each. Call 555-FUNY --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 1925 To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 11:17p Subj: BRAND NEW CD'S! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No n e w * n e w * THE NEW CD'S KEEP POURIN' IN AT STARVECTOR! * n e w * n e -------------------------------------------------------------------------- AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK 93/94 - New release. 11,000,000 businesses.$39 ARIZONA IMAGES - Fabulous photos of the Arizona desert country.........$30 FIREARMS REFERENCE - Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$30 KING'S QUEST VI - Newest in the KQ series. Better than 7th Guest!......$47 MICROSOFT GOLF - Multimedia Golf game that is "on par with reality"....$58 SHAREWARE EXPLORER - New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$59 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5 --- * SLMR 2.1a * If it's British, it leaks. --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DONNIE RAYNOR Number: 1926 To: VID KID Date: 08/28/93 11:56a Subj: Re: Mitsumi Cd-rom Drives Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have a Mitsimi drive too. I had a heck of a time to start with getting it to work right in the begining. Come to find out I had a bad drive. But on the way I got some good info on installing and configuring the drive. I have a SBPro sound board, I found out that the four pin cable for the sound from the CD drive can be pluged directly into the sound board with a slight modifca- tion. The plug on the end of the Mitsumi cable that you would plug into the interface needed to have the wires reversed. This is really no problem to fix with a simple straight pin you press the small clips down on the end of each wire and remove them. Make sure you mark the wires so you can put them back in the reverse order of the way they came out. They just push back into the plug and they will self lock. Pin (1) would be ground, pin (2) Left Channel, pin (3) ground, pin (4) Right Channel. The sound works great, and there is no need for any external cables. Hope this helps you out with your question. ... I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- RBBSMail 17.3A * Origin: Intercity BBS, Richmond VA. CDROM ONLINE! (RBBS 1:264/152) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DONNIE RAYNOR Number: 1927 To: ERIC ESKAM Date: 08/28/93 1:11p Subj: Re: Help With Mscdex Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Eric Eskam to All <=- EE> Anyone have a text file laying around that explains the switches for EE> MSCDEX? The syntax of the MSCDEX.EXE entry in autoexec.bat is: [drive:][path]mscdex.exe/D:device name [/M:n] [/E] [/V] [/L:drive letter] [drive:] [path] mscdex.exe Specifies the location (drive and directory) of the mscdex.exe file. /D:device name Specifies the name of the CD-ROM drive (8 characters maximum). This must be identical to the device name specified in the device driver in the config.sys file. For example: C:\bin\mscdex.exe /D:mscd001 [/M:n] Specifies the number of sector buffers for temporary storage of the most recent disc data. For example to specify four sector buffers you would use: C:\bin\mscdex.exe /D:mscd001 /M:4 NOTE: The greater the value, the better the CD-ROM drive will preform. However, each buffer uses about 2k of memory and and specifying too many buffers may slow down computer operation or interfere with other programs which have large memory usage requirements. Using expanded memory (see the /E option in this section) or loading MSCDEX.EXE into high memory (refer to MS-DOS Users Manual or Memory Manager Users Manual) may allow you to enhance CD-ROM performance and operate programs with large memory usage requirements simultaneously. [/E] Instructs the computer to use expanded memory, if available. For example: C:\bin\mscdex.exe /D:mscd001 /E Note that you must first load an expanded memory driver before using this option. If no expanded memory driver is loaded, the following message appears: Expanded memory not present or not usable [/V] Instructs the computer to display a summary of Ram allocation and expanded memory usage at booting. For example specifying C:\bin\mscdex.exe /D:mscd001 /V will cause the computer to display memory information in the following format: 5556864 bytes free memory 0 bytes expanded memory 12752 bytes CODE 1712 bytes static DATA 12618 dytes dynamic DATA 27344 bytes used [/L:drive letter] Specifies the drive letter to be assigned to the first CD-ROM drive or the computer will be unable to access the CD-ROM drive. For example, you might use: C:\bin\mscdex.exe /D:mscd001 /L:F Normally, the CD-ROM drive is assigned the next available drive letter on the computer after floppy drives, hard drives, RAM drives, etc. Therefore you only need to use this option if it is necessary to assign a drive letter beyond the last letter in use. EE> -!- Maximus/2 2.01wb EE> ! Origin: The Choice BBS, Las Vegas, NV 702-253-6527 HST DS 16.8k EE> (1:209/710) ... Tag line thievery ... On the next Geraldo! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- RBBSMail 17.3A * Origin: Intercity BBS, Richmond VA. CDROM ONLINE! (RBBS 1:264/152) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 1928 To: JOHN WOLF Date: 08/27/93 10:53a Subj: SBPro CD ROM Drives Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I think what would be a hell of a lot easier is to just get a Sound Galaxy NX Pro card which has SCSI interface and is compatible with all SCSI CD-ROM drives regardless of the speed. It's soundblaster, adlib, disney sound source, FM music, and speech thing compatible so you have much more compatability also. It runs about 170-180 dollars. Randy --- WM v3.00/93-0105 * Origin: Buck's Place BBS 11+GIG 100k FILES 201 adult echos (1:202/1513.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 1929 To: ERIC RICHARD Date: 08/27/93 10:55a Subj: Cd-Rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Try the NEC multispin or the APPLE CD cd-rom drives. They are both double spin and under $350 dollars (some places). Use the appleCD for a MAC or the NEC for either. Randy --- WM v3.00/93-0105 * Origin: Buck's Place BBS 11+GIG 100k FILES 201 adult echos (1:202/1513.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 1930 To: MING LEE Date: 08/27/93 10:57a Subj: ADAPTEC 1522 AND NEC CDR- Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No If the CD-ROM is internal, try a sound card with SCSI interface. I use a Sound Galaxy NX Pro with my CD-ROM, and it works wonderful! Randy --- WM v3.00/93-0105 * Origin: Buck's Place BBS 11+GIG 100k FILES 201 adult echos (1:202/1513.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 1931 To: KRIS JOHNSON Date: 08/27/93 11:01a Subj: Cd's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I wouldn't reccommend daisy chaining to a sound card, I don't think it would work and the card isn't designed for it anyway. It's made for a CD-ROM only. Try seventh guest. It has cool graphics and audio. How much memory does your svga card have? Is it local bus? Randy --- WM v3.00/93-0105 * Origin: Buck's Place BBS 11+GIG 100k FILES 201 adult echos (1:202/1513.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 1932 To: DAVID CALVIN Date: 08/27/93 11:07a Subj: More Help! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have a mitsumi drive that I got for $190 and it's MPC compliant. Judging by the specs of yours, I'm sure it's a more expensive model and most likely MPC compliant. Randy --- WM v3.00/93-0105 * Origin: Buck's Place BBS 11+GIG 100k FILES 201 adult echos (1:202/1513.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 1933 To: STEPHEN EATON Date: 08/27/93 11:10a Subj: CD-Rom Problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I've heard many other complaints and problems with CD-ROMs using an adaptec SCSI card. My friend is running a panasonic with dos 6 and a Sound Galaxy NX Pro sound card with SCSI. Works fine. You should check out your drivers make sure they are installed properly. If all else fails, get a sound card with SCSI since you probably need one anyway -- they are nice with CD-Roms! --- WM v3.00/93-0105 * Origin: Buck's Place BBS 11+GIG 100k FILES 201 adult echos (1:202/1513.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 1934 To: STUART CAPORN Date: 08/27/93 11:14a Subj: Questions, questions ... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No You really can't daisy chain devices on a sound card, but if you have a scsi card it's alright. About OS2 running of CD-ROM, nope! You must install it from one. They just put it on a cd because it would take up too many disks (and probably too much hard disk space also!). About the access time, I'm not sure. Mine has 320 ms so I guess they won't get my buisness! Randy --- WM v3.00/93-0105 * Origin: Buck's Place BBS 11+GIG 100k FILES 201 adult echos (1:202/1513.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 1935 To: VICTOR ZDANOWICZ Date: 08/27/93 11:16a Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Check out the panasonics or NECs. They have some good prices (I don't have the exact #), great quality! Randy --- WM v3.00/93-0105 * Origin: Buck's Place BBS 11+GIG 100k FILES 201 adult echos (1:202/1513.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 1936 To: PAUL NUSBAUM Date: 08/27/93 11:18a Subj: 7th Guest incompatibiliti Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No My friend has seventh guest with a Sound Galaxy NX Pro (which is compatible with almost ALL other cards), and about a minute of music played directly off the CD won't pass through the card for some reason. Headphones must be used. Randy --- WM v3.00/93-0105 * Origin: Buck's Place BBS 11+GIG 100k FILES 201 adult echos (1:202/1513.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 1937 To: DANA REPOUILLE Date: 08/27/93 11:20a Subj: Adaptec 6260 drivers Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I've replied to numerous complaints about that damn adaptec SCSI card!!! Just toss it and get a SCSI compatible sound card! That's what I had to do. Everything now works perfect. Randy --- WM v3.00/93-0105 * Origin: Buck's Place BBS 11+GIG 100k FILES 201 adult echos (1:202/1513.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 1938 To: JACKSON CHAU Date: 08/27/93 11:22a Subj: CD'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In this echo there are tons of them for sale. Just take some time and look. Randy --- WM v3.00/93-0105 * Origin: Buck's Place BBS 11+GIG 100k FILES 201 adult echos (1:202/1513.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 1939 To: JEFF WEBSTER Date: 08/27/93 11:23a Subj: Cd-Rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Try the MonsterDisc II --- WM v3.00/93-0105 * Origin: Buck's Place BBS 11+GIG 100k FILES 201 adult echos (1:202/1513.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1940 To: GEOFF MOEHLE Date: 08/28/93 11:10a Subj: panasonic Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hello!!!!!!! I was thinking about buying a double speed CD-ROM from -> panasonic...however I was wondering about the 350 milisecond access -> time...is that REAL slow?????? Would that cause problems???/ The -> transfer rate is a 300mb/second...and I was wondering on how that -> might be!!!!!!!! Anyone who can tell me anything about my questions -> would be greatfully helpful!!!!!!!!!!! I can tell you what access time and transfer rate means. You're mistaken panasonic is 320ms access time not 350. As for the top brand drives that are 200ms if you compare the speed its only 33% faster which ain't that noticable. The access time represents the worst time it takes to move the laser beam across the disc. The transfer rate is far more important than the access time the transfer rate is after the laser beam goes to the right location it starts reading the data off the disc that is the transfer rate. The reason why its 300kb/sec transfer rate instead of 150kb/sec transfer rate is because its a double speed drive what makes it transfer more per second is the speed of the spinning disc just like a record album if you put it on fast forward it will start reading faster. So you shouldn't be alarmed about the access time its decent enough the only worst thing is if you have a program that has hundreds of small 10k files and it has to access all of them then that would take a few seconds more of time i noticed if you use dosshell to scan directories it can scan 100 directories in a second with a 16ms hard drive it can do 1000 in a second you can also go by that type of scanning rate. Louis --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1941 To: LISA HUTTER Date: 08/28/93 2:52p Subj: My New cd-rom! help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hi All, -> I've just recently installed a panisonic CD-Rom and I'm not sure how -> to get the most out of it...I thought that I'd be able to play -> musical CD's while working in Windows, etc...Of course this isn't the -> only reason I made this purchase but I'd thought it would be a fun -> feature. -> -> Can anyone give me some advice as to how to make the most of my new -> "toy"? You should be able to play music cd's on your cdrom the only problem is you don't have any cd music software that will tell your cdrom player to play the musica cd's there are some shareware music cd players you can pick up on your local board check for cd under windows directory or if you have the sound blaster 16 package it comes with a music cd player included in the disks. Louis --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 1942 To: DON BOSMAN Date: 08/28/93 2:55p Subj: cr562, 563, info wanted Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I have been reading here for a while and have a few questions. -> The Panasonic CR562b seems to be the drive of choice. -> What is the difference between it and the 563? Is there a difference -> between the 562 and the 562b? There is no 562 theres just the 562b and the 563 the 563 is the same as the 562b the only difference is the 563 model is to be sold as a creative labs multimedia package with the sound blaster 16 as to the 562b is sold seperately but you can still buy the sound blaster 16 seperate and 562b and still be allowed to connect the cdrom directly to the sound blaster 16 without the need of the interface card. -> Can two or more 562's be daisy chained on the SB Pro 16? The answer to that is no -> I have a SB Pro 16, used to have the drive (522 I think) that came in -> the Creative Labs kit. Can the 562x just plug and play using the -> same settings that came with the kit's setup? Just buy the 562b drive and you shall be able to connect it directly to the sound blaster 16 but since you didn't buy the sound blaster 16 at the time they released the sound blaster cd driver so the sound blaster 16 will accept the cdrom you can get it off the boards should be called cr562.zip or along the lines or call up creative labs and find out how to get the drivers for it. --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DONALD WEN Number: 1943 To: LOTHAR KUENZEL Date: 08/27/93 9:28p Subj: Te koop diverse cdrom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No So...would you happen to know what Jurrie wrote in his message? DONALD WEN --- via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The PC GFX Exchange * 415-337-5416 HST/V.32 * (1:125/217.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL CROSSON Number: 1944 To: ALL Date: 08/28/93 11:33a Subj: Jem Disk CD-Rom Trade In Sale Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Send us your old CD-Rom (in good condition) and $14.95 and we'll send you Jem Disc I shareware CD-Rom collection. Jem Disc was printed last fall and contains many timeless files. Due to it's super selection of BBS related files, it's a must for all sysops! Integration with bbs software is EZ! The current price without trade in is $19.95 plus S/H so this deal represents a savings of $10. HURRY - offer ends 9/15/93! For more information FREQ from 1:203/49 - JEMTRADE - for the trade in special order form (5k) JEMDISC - regular order form for those without something to trade (5k) JEMFILES - complete FILES.BBS file listings (250k) Or call my BBS at (916)921-9949 and download these files from my logon matrix (enter JEM at the Dos prompt) - I have a v.32bis modem online. --- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1510) * Origin: Holiday BBS, Sacramento, CA (916)921-9949 (1:203/49) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANA KIRKSEY Number: 1945 To: SHAUN RADER Date: 08/28/93 9:32a Subj: 7th guest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SR>Yeah, I got 1%, how did you get 40%? I have the Trident 8900 card too! SR>What type of computer do you have? I have the Diamond Stealth now, SR>which is great in Windows, but I still have my Trident (as a backup). SR> -Shaun Rader- I just have an 386dx-40(hoping to upgrade to 486 soon).It probably has something to do with the configuration set up(just guessing<grin>). TTYL Diana === * OLX 2.1 TD * This tagline stolen by Off-Line Xpress! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: *The Beemer Board* Manteca CA 1-209-823-0854 USR DS 16.8 (1:208/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANA KIRKSEY Number: 1946 To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Date: 08/28/93 8:13a Subj: RE: Re: new mpc specs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No My Trident Card is the 16-bit version with 1Meg RAM.We must have different Video cards. Diana --- FX-BBS V3.41ß[386]r * Origin: -=BerthaBoard=- Manteca, Ca. (209) 823-0093/239-9853 (1:208/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADRIAN VERGOT Number: 1947 To: BETH CORRIGAN Date: 08/28/93 11:58a Subj: kodak photo CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No FYI, Egghead Software just started selling Kodak Photo CD "Mailer" pouches. For $17 you can stuff a 24 roll film into the mailer and get a photo CD-Back in a couple of days. For a little more $, you can get mailers that will get you the photo CD and double prints. They have several packages available. Hope this helps you out. If not, I've got the addresses of the PA Photo CD locations... - Adrain --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The LAIR * Home of Pink Floyd!!! * 412-771-9218 (1:129/133) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LEN GLADSTONE Number: 1948 To: SYLV JUMAGA Date: 08/27/93 12:38p Subj: Canadian cdrom dealers?? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SJ>I was wondering if there are any *CANADIAN* companies out there that SJ>are selling CD-ROM drives and/or CD's . . . I see all sorts of ads SJ>posted here, but am dismayed when I realize their area codes are in SJ>the U.S. and there is no mention of the ability to ship to Canada, Sylv, try CD-Rom Wholesalers of Canada, 6 Armstrong Bay, Regina Sask. S4N 4G7 Ph (306) 789-4654 voice. Contact Vince &/or Michellea Sorensen. They have been great to deal with for both prices and service. They sell Night Owl 9 for $35.00 Cdn + $2.00 S&H. GST included compared to $25.00 US (best price I've seen on this echo)plus $? S&H PLUS GST at the post office, and soon I hear, PST at the post office! Also NO CUSTOMS DELAY! Len Gladstone --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Winnipeg PC UG BBS - Winnipeg, Mb. (204) 334-8800 (1:348/204) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN RICKERSON Number: 1949 To: DOUGLAS NEUMAN Date: 08/28/93 10:49p Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I have a NEC CDR-72 available for a small price of $130US that comes > with its own controller, but it is a true scsi drive so it can be > connected to a scsi controller. This is an external drive with access > speed of 380 ms and transfer speed of upto 150K but it does not have > internal circuitry to be MPC compatible. But for BBS use it would be an > excellent drive. I will include software drivers that you will need for > the NEC controller board that is being included. It also comes with 5 > caddys. Call me at (914)351-3325 in the evening (after 6EDT) or at > (201)818-3547 during the day. Can these drives be daisy chained? And if so how many? Thanks John --- FastEcho 1.25 * Origin: Thin Ice - Your traveling on very Thin Ice (1:160/9) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SHAUN RADER Number: 1950 To: GEOFF MOEHLE Date: 08/28/93 5:32p Subj: Panasonic Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No <<***** GEOFF MOEHLE wrote this on 08-25─93 {May be edited} *****>> ─>Hello!!!!!!! I was thinking about buying a double speed CD-ROM from ─>panasonic...however I was wondering about the 350 milisecond access ─>time...is that REAL slow?????? Would that cause problems???/ The ─>transfer rate is a 300mb/second...and I was wondering on how that migh ─>be!!!!!!!! Anyone who can tell me anything about my questions would be ─>greatfully helpful!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks!!!! Geoff ─>Moehle! I have read that the transfer rate is more important then the access time. I have a 390ms access time and 150K transfer rate, and it seems pretty fast to me. I think 350ms access time is just fine. -Shaun Rader- -Madman@Liberty.Com- 08/28/93 16:57 --- * CmpQwk 1.13 #141 * There is not gravity. The earth sucks. --- DB 1.39/004485 * Origin: The Diamond Bar BBS - 909-923-1031 - Ontario, CA (1:218/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 1951 To: DEVIN WOOD Date: 08/28/93 3:38p Subj: Re: NEC CDR-84 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DW> I've been considering this drive. I have a concern though. I'm a DW> quadriplegic and can't move my fingers. I need a drive with a caddy so DW> I don't ruin my CDs. I'm trying to find out about the doors. Needing DW> to use both hands to insert ther disk, I won't be able to hold a door DW> open while I do it. How are the doors set up? I don't know for certain about this drive in particular, but every caddy drive that I have seen has a spring loaded primary door and a mechanically driven secondary door. When one inserts the caddy, the primary door (which is usually a different color than the secondary door, and often is labeled "EMPTY", or some such) simply folds down out of the way. When the caddy is fully inserted, the secondary door comes down, letting you know that the caddy is properly seated, and that there is a disk in the drive. DW> It's hard for me to get out to see for myself. Would anyone recommend DW> another drive with similar features that they consider superior? IMHO, the most superior drive commonly available is the Pioneer DRM-604X. It is a bit pricey, so if you are on a tight budget, it may not be for you. However, the caddies hold SIX disks at a time, and the drive automatically switches between the requested CD's. This can easily reduce the number of times you will have to switch CD's by a factor of at least six, or if you almost never run more than six CD's, it will prevent you from having to do any switching at all. This drive sounds ideal for you, if you can afford it. The best street prices are a bit above $1100. It utilizes a SCSI interface, so if you can afford two, you can easily chain two of them together to allow you to access 12 CD's on a regular basis, without ever having to swap at all. If you have the budget, and regularly use more than 12 CD's, there are CD changers available that support 100 CD's in the $5000 range. However, changing the caddies on the DRM-604X is very easy, even without the use of your fingers. It is even easier, if anything, than regular caddy drives. The caddy does have to be pushed into a recess, and you may have to use a pencil or pointer (do you use a pointer to type?) to seat the magazine, but the force required is minimal. The eject button is flush with the front surface, easily available, and nowhere near any other controls. It is also a soft touch, so should present few problems for you. All in all, I think that one or two of the Pioneer drives will be your best solution, if you can afford them. They are SCSI-2, support MPC-2, and can easily be used for software motion video. IF you want to run OS/2 2.1, the pioneer drives with an Adaptec 1542 (ISA) or 1742 (EISA) SCSI host adapter is supported right out of the box, and installed automatically. Les --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: GUI? Ptui!!! --- Last Chance Pt 4 (1:387/800.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 1952 To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/28/93 3:38p Subj: Re: Cd-rom help! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No HP> -> 1998848 bytes free EMS memory HP> -> HP> -> 2031616 bytes total XMS memory HP> -> 2031616 bytes available XMS memory HP> -> 0 bytes available contiguous extended memory HP> -> DOS resident in High Memory Area HP> -> High Memory Area in use HP> -> HP> -> Unlike with QEMM, if I were to use, say, 16M of that EMS memo HP> -> would still have the 20M of XMS available. OF course, if I wanted to HP> -> graphics in this window, I could have about 696K free, instead of 632 HP> -> What's more, all of my other DOS sessions could still use graphics! HP> -> this is available with an 850 Meg C: drive, a Pioneer DRM-604X six pa HP> Are you saying you have over 40mb of memory? The numbers you list show HP> about 2.5mb each, did you get your numbers crossed? I do sometimes. I HP> saw a guy in HS modems even that said he had a 12000 modem, I think he HP> meant 1200. Nope, I'm saying that OS/2 is a great OS that knows how to implement virtual memory properly. I have (at the moment) 16 Megs of physical RAM, but each and every DOS session, both VDM and VMB, can have up to 16 Megs of XMS PLUS, 32 Megs of EMS PLUS, up to 736K of conventional and 200K or so of UMB, until I run out of hard drive space. (with an 800 Meg drive, that will be a while). Virtual memory is allocated dynamically, so even with many dozens of megs of memory allocated, hard drive swapping does not start until the active applications (not loaded but idle ones) actually exceed the physical memory limit. At that point, the system will usually see a significant slowdown, although not necessarily an unacceptable one, short term. Oh, and some 12,000bps modems WERE manufactured, although they were quickly overshadowed by 14,400 HST and v.32bis modems. However, this has all drifted *WAY* off topic. If you wish to continue in this vein, why don't you meet me on the OS2HW echo? Les --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: GUI? Ptui!!! --- Last Chance Pt 4 (1:387/800.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 1953 To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Date: 08/28/93 3:38p Subj: Re: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GM>> Yes, well. They are available if that's what you mean, GM>> but they sure aren't that AFFORDABLE, are they? By the LR> Compared to what? I have a system that GM> easily exceeds all the LR> specs given. GM> Leslie, the fact that you have such a system does not make it any cheaper. GM> BTW, my SVGA card is a stinking 8-bit, alias 256 colors AFAIK. My point is that affordability is a relative term. Such a system is certainly very affordable compared with a Mercedes or a Porsche in their respective markets. I was able to easily afford this system, and I am far, far from being rich. Heck, such a system is fairly affordable compared with an original IBM XT at the time (1980). Les --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: GUI? Ptui!!! --- Last Chance Pt 4 (1:387/800.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 1954 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/27/93 5:42p Subj: PRECISION MAPPING Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MS>Which version do you have? The new version 1.5b has much improved >city search and zooming features, plus an addendum to the manual, which >explains a lot more. If you have version 1.2, you might consider >sending it to S&S for an upgrade. I saw your upgrade message shortly after asking the question. I received my upgrade just a few days after returning it. I am VERY impressed with their service AND their product. It works great just by doing what I tried with the other version. Maybe I am not as dumb as I thought. <G> Jim... --- FreeMail 1.08b * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 1955 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/27/93 5:46p Subj: NEW CD-SOUTHERN BEAUTIES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MS>Well whatever. <sigh> I've asked him three times to explain it, with >no reply (that I've seen) to date. Still a good looking CD, but I doubt >that a lot of sysops will be buying it. 8) Yes, I agree. I am not going to build up much of a stockpile of them myself. Sysops are my mainstay, and I know it. :) Btw, what do you think of Luscious Ladies (the CD that is). <G> It has a files.bbs in each directory, but no file lists with dates and sizes included. That will eliminate many BBS types, but it does look nice from what I have seen. It is DEFINITELY the best looking cover I have seen so far. Jim... --- FreeMail 1.08b * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 1956 To: MANESH RAMA Date: 08/27/93 8:02p Subj: encyclopedia's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MR>hey, i wuz wondering if anyone can get me a cheap encylcopedia >cd for about under $50 or how bout a trade. >oh and how good is a groliers encylcopedia I can get you a new Groliers in that price range. Do you want the DOS or Windows version? Give me a call if you would like a catalog or more details, or call the Computer Works BBS and download catalog.zip. It has all the CD-Rom descriptions included. Computer Works Jim... CD-Rom Sales! (205) 793-4481 Voice (205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders --- FreeMail 1.08b * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC HSIAO Number: 1957 To: JOHN ROBERTSON Date: 08/28/93 6:08p Subj: Speedcache & disc caddies Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Actually, frosted is a better word to describe the outer corners. On two the corners, it says "OPEN" with arrows pointing inward, and on one of the other corners, there's a box with the word CD Caddy written in it. On the part that goes into the drive first, it says THIS SIDE FACES FORWARD. There's also an arrow in the middle pointing that direction also. On the bottom, there'a an A written on one side and a B on the opposite side. Overall, I went into Software Etc and Babbages again to compare what they had on the shelf to what I bought at the computer fair and they looked indentical. If these are counterfeits, they're really good it matching the real thing, else they are the real thing, just priced at a reasonable price. I really don't see how anyone could charge $11 for a CD Caddy. - Eric --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: deltaComm Online - The Telix Support BBS! (1:151/107) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE AVILA Number: 1958 To: LAURIE BATT Date: 08/28/93 4:57p Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> G'day Mike, In a message on <Aug 21>, you said : -> -> -> -> MA> *** Quoting Rowan Evans to Joel Dumas dated 08-18-93 *** -> >> -> >> A dealer tried to interest me in a PAS 16/Texel... They -> >> wanted over $1300.00 for the combo and, (they also sold the -> >> SB kit!) when SHOWN -> -> MA> WOW! That is an outragous price. I got the Texel drive and -> MA> the PAStudio16 at different times but from the same place -> MA> and total cost including shipping was under $750 (don't -> MA> remember EXACT amount). Matter of a fact I believe it was -> MA> just under $725. -> -> You obviously didnt realise that Rowan and Joel are both in Australi -> $750 US dollars converts to about $1100 Ozzie Dollars, add the import -> duty/sales tax and that brings to around $1300 -> -> -> -> Laurie -> -> -> --- msgedsq 2.2b - WOW! (Again<GRIN>) I feel for you people there. Buying CD equipment and discs (and all computer equipment?) must really set you back. I didn't realize where they were. I guess I didn't catch the tagline address. THANKS for pointing it out to me. Mike --- WM v3.01/91-0071 * Origin: The Atari Advocate Wildcat 3.XX\D'Bridge\HST (1:120/102.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PHILIP WHEAT Number: 1959 To: EDWARD PALMER Date: 08/28/93 3:49p Subj: NEC CDR-25 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > You're welcome, Steve. By the way, I noticed another reply to you from > > Eric Ho. He said that the drive couldn't be daisy-chained because it > only > had one connector. In case you're not familiar with SCSI, he's only > half > right. The drive does have only one connector, but you can still > daisy-chain it if you make it the last drive on the chain. > > Ed Ed, Note that you don't even have to make the drive the last in the chain if you don't want to. You just need to get a cable made that has one of the centronics 50 connectors in the middle of the cable and then turn off termination on the drive in the middle. That's all that's happening in a SCSI passthrough anyway. --- * AmiQWK II 1.0b --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta-'h' * Origin: OASIS BBS - Your Win/OS2 Headquarters in MS! <1:3632/21> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON KULHA Number: 1960 To: ALL Date: 08/28/93 8:33p Subj: Apple Service Info CD's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ** Surplus Apple Service Info CD-ROM (January 1993 Edition) $18 Delivered! ** This disc contains over 75mb of valuble information on servicing Apple products including all CPU's (128's to Powerbooks), Monitors, Printers, net- work products and more in hypercard format. Included are exploded views, disasembly/diagnostic/adjustment procedures, service bulletins, safety tips, movies, wiring diagrams....a wealth of information. If you've got a Mac and CDROM (or access to one) this disc can be a great resource and save you $$$. This is the disc Apple sends it's dealers...Now you can have it too!. New in jewel case with sealed plastic overwrap. Only 115 pieces left! *** Send SASE for our new brochure or $18 to order (Check or Money order) *** Sonoma Online, P.O. Box 7518, Santa Rosa, CA 95407 (707.545.7533 Voice) --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Sonoma Online (1:125/7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DALE KANEY Number: 1961 To: DAVE DAVIDSON Date: 08/27/93 12:22p Subj: O.D.'s using Desktop Publishing for their Newsletter Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Are you aware of any O.D.'s using commercially available software for their desktop publishing of their office newsletter? I asked a consultant and she gave me the names of two programs for about $600.-$700. They seemed to be a lot more than I needed( rotating graphics,etc.) . I believe they were "Pagemaker" & QuarkXpress. Anyone have any other suggestion? --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: OPTOMETRY ONLINE [FidoNet] (1:100/514) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG SCHWANTES Number: 1962 To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 3:36p Subj: CD-ROM disk cache Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone out there know of a good disk cache for a CD-ROM? ... Catch the Blue Wave! --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR] * Origin: -= W E B B =- Watertown, WI (414) 262-0502 (1:154/801.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 1963 To: DON KULHA Date: 08/25/93 1:19p Subj: CDROM Slows BBS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DK> I have no idea what the list is. Have a friend selling it for DK> $40 per node. As far as I know the lantastic 2mbps cards don't work DK> with anything but lantastic. I'd sell them with lantastic to someone DK> and switch over to 10mbps coax ethernet cards which can be had for DK> $65 for new NE2000 clones or used 3Com cards. I think your CDROM DK> would respond very positively to the faster interface cards and DK> faster network software. I used to have collisions with my 7 cdroms DK> that would lockup and kill Lantastic. Not so with the WEB Nos. DK> DCK Well it's worth a try, I am adding 4 more drives that will bring the total up to 11, so I probably will encounter more and more problems.. Thanks again.. -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.3 --- FreeMail 1.07b * Origin: The Outer-Limits (618) 439-9629 * HST/V32 * (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STAN REED Number: 1964 To: BOB HALL Date: 08/26/93 8:35p Subj: Re: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No -=> Quoting Bob Hall to All <=- BH> Regarding the rules of this echo, and the topic of adult CDROM's, I tons of stuff removed to save space BH> Bob Hall Bob, Thanks, this is what I was curious about! I can't object to any of your reasons and with the federal and state laws being such as they are I can understand your position. I think it might have helped matters if this had been posted before your rule change but then again you might have had your reasons for posting the change first. Thanks for the info, Stan ... Black Holes were created when God divided by zero! --- FD2.02NC/RA2.0G/FMAIL.94 * Origin: Hot Air Xpress BBS - Englewood OH - HST DS 16.8 (1:110/375.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN TUCKY Number: 1965 To: STEPHEN COCHRAN Date: 08/26/93 8:49a Subj: Re: Looking for anatomy CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >Hi, I am searching for a CD-ROM that contains images and information >similar to that found in Gray's Anatomy (the standard handbook). I >specifically need access to illustrations of the skeletal and nervous >systems. If anyone knows of such a beast, and could point me to the >correct publisher, I would be very grateful. Thanks in advance! There is one available. Actually the entire body takes up several disks. These disks were made by medical artists and are stored as SVGA (1024x768). The illustrations are so good they are used in pre-med for initial anatomy lessons. The parts og the body can be removed 'layer by layer'. The disks are also _very_ expensive. --- SLMAIL v2.15B-M (#0659) * Origin: BIZHOST BBS (1:157/562) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEPHEN KOVACSISS Number: 1966 To: MARLIN ROWLEY Date: 08/28/93 9:28a Subj: EXPLAIN SOUND CARDS TO ME Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 08-24-93 MARLIN ROWLEY wrote to STEPHEN KOVACSISS... MR> I found this information in the PC Magazine article concerning Sound MR> cards MR> and they stated that the Ultra Gravis Sound card can "record at 16-bit MR> 44khz, MR> and 12-bit playback at 32khz." Whether this is true or not, I don't MR> know. MR> I'm not trying to start a sound war here, so if I'm wrong then I'm MR> wrong. MR> MR> MR> --- WM v3.01/91-0239 MR> * Origin: Nite-Air BBS System(315) (1:2609/3.0) I wouldn't say that you are wrong, I would say that PC Mag's info is wrong. The UltraSound does have 16-bit playback at 44kHz. --- * OFFLINE 1.54 * Anything can work if you fiddle with it long enough. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CanCom BBS - Canton, OH (1:157/629) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: POE LIM Number: 1967 To: BOB JACKSON Date: 08/28/93 10:10p Subj: Re: Files.bbs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Bob, On Aug 25 08:43 in a msg to Tim Helton, Bob Jackson of 1:106/30 wrote: > I've just used the name I found on the CD. I think I'll start > describing the contents (e.g. what stuff starts in what column, etc.) > so sysops can understand what to expect. Probably easier to quote an example FILES.BBS entry; unfortunately depending on setup, everyone have different ideas as to what is required, and taking the Night Owl as an example, even though it is somewhat compatible with Maximus, they way it's set out means a fair bit of editing (I don't use download counters, and the extra "|" is fairly annoying personally). Cheers, Poe --- * Origin: Serendipity Inc, Cowra. +61-63-41 1859 (3:623/630) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: POE LIM Number: 1968 To: DEVIN WOOD Date: 08/28/93 10:48p Subj: NEC CDR-84 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Devin, On Aug 26 12:51 in a msg to Those In The Know, Devin Wood of 1:322/360 wrote: > so I don't ruin my CDs. I'm trying to find out about the doors. > Needing to use both hands to insert ther disk, I won't be able to > hold a door open while I do it. How are the doors set up? Not sure about the 84, but the Toshiba 3401 has motorised loading (once you push the CD caddy beyound a certain point, the reader pulls it in), motorised eject (just push the button lightly, and the caddy is ejected). The door flips down, then stays down until you flip it close again (same when you eject the caddy); is this what you were thinking of? Cheers, Poe --- * Origin: Serendipity Inc, Cowra. +61-63-41 1859 (3:623/630) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG DUFFUS Number: 1969 To: RAFAL TROJANOWSKI Date: 08/25/93 11:21p Subj: Do you ever study? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey Raf man, I thought I'd just let you know that you have a couple of assignments due next Friday. Seeya..... --- Ezycom V1.02 03fa001f * Origin: The Farmers BBS ( Line 3 ) 076-333669 (3:640/451) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAURIE BATT Number: 1970 To: PHIL HORNBY Date: 08/27/93 9:36a Subj: Mistumi/Sb/Sbpro Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * On Aug 19 23:08 Phil Hornby quoth this to Mark Womack MW>> I wonder what output goes to the speaker - the sound MW>> output? PH> No, it's the other way round....the beeps that would have PH> gone to the internal speaker, get redirected to the PH> SoundBlaster. PH> I don't know if my motherboard is unusual, but I had a wire PH> a 3K3 resistor in series with the speaker o/p, to reduce PH> the volume a bit. Without it, the beeps came out as PH> {{{{{BEEPS}}}}}} :-) You are not alone, I had the same problem a few years ago, cant remember the value I used but eventually removed it and returned the spkr setting to normal. Laurie --- msgedsq 2.2b * Origin: The PNG Connection, Cairns,Tropical Nth Qld, OZ (3:640/532) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL TURNER-CRAIG Number: 1971 To: ROB MCINTYRE Date: 08/26/93 12:46p Subj: CD LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RM>What is the JEDI Collection ? Is it a Star Wars library ? Dear Rob, If you find out what the JEDI collection is and if it is related to Star Wars could you please drop me a few lines on where to get it and price etc etc... Thanx .\\ichael Turner-Craig --- Ezycom V1.02 04fa001b * Origin: Atropos Australia (3:632/334) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL TURNER-CRAIG Number: 1972 To: JIM FREDERICK Date: 08/26/93 12:50p Subj: 7th Guest... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JF> I'm having problems with 7Th guest. I bought it when it first came JF>the meantime I upgraded from DOS 5 to DOS 6.... now it won't work at JF>all. Has anyone else had this problem? My settings in my config and JF>autoexec are the same, I have even more free memory. What's the JF>problem? I'm open to suggestions..... thanks. Jim. Jim , DOS 6 was just a BAD idea!!! i would advise you go back to DOS 5. as it is much more stable.. every day people are findong more and more things wrong with Dos 6 and i have de-installed my copy and gone back to dos 3.3... everything is compat with it so i see no need to go any further.. unless you need the new commands or the exta directory structure!!.. cool .\\ichael turner-craig --- Ezycom V1.02 04fa001b * Origin: Atropos Australia (3:632/334) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MALCOLM YOUNG Number: 1973 To: BRENDAN FARTHING Date: 08/27/93 7:42p Subj: Aust. Phone Disc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Brendan, > Also, does anyone know the difference between the one that sells for > about $1500.00 (I think it's called Aus On Disc) and the one that sells > for about $50.00 (This one is called Australian Phone Disk). > The one that sells for $50 contains the entire Yellow and White Pages > for every state in Australia. The $50 disc is used like phone book you can search for the phone number for a name or type of business or find who has a phone number. If you search for a name like Smith the program will then let you break the list down by state , postcode , suburb or initials but you can't start a search with these fields. > Why is there such a HUGE price difference between that disk and the > $1500.00 one ?????? The other disc is a set of two (business/residential) the $1500 is a license fee which has to be renewed each year for $560, FREE updates are produced in March and September. This disc will allow the search in any of the fields that are on the disc the business disc has even has the ASIC code on it and can be used to produce mailing lists a land agent could use it to send a personalised letter to each householder in a given area selected by postcode or even street. The $50 disc is useful as a phone book substitute but is not suited to producing mailing lists. The other disc has more commercial potential and it is sold for what people are willing to pay for it. As the data on the discs is similar the main difference is on the $1500 disc you can get to it easier (more index files ?) I can see no reason for the large price difference. Regards, Malcolm. --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Beware of the Killer Dwarf, Adelaide OZ (3:800/869.8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SUNNY LEUNG Number: 1974 To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 6:48p Subj: Writable CD-ROM's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello everybody. While doing a case study for my Systems Analysis and Design course, I came upon several problems involving CD-ROM's. Can you produce your own CD's? Suppose you wrote some files on a CD-ROM. Is it possible to add more files to the CD? Can you erase a CD and reuse it? What's the difference between a CD and a optical disk (and what's a WORM drive)? Regards, Sunny. --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: (3:712/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID ADKINS Number: 1975 To: SUNNY LEUNG Date: 08/26/93 11:45a Subj: Panasonic 562/563 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hi everybody, -> -> I've got a SB 16ASP hooked up to the old SB Pro CD-ROM. I'm thinking -> upgrading to the new Panasonic double speed drive. Does anyone in Aus -> supply this drive, and what would be the price? -> They are advertised in the Melbourne Age Green Guide this week Haven't got it to hand at this ttime regards David --- WM v2.05/91-0520 * Origin: Bible Lighthouse BBS! Melbourne, (03)7260110 (3:632/453) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JON DERAGON Number: 1976 To: JIM FREDERICK Date: 08/27/93 6:37p Subj: 7th Guest... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey there! Well, version 6 of DOS has known glitches in it, MS is trying to decide whether it will be bring out a fix upgrade for it or just wait till DOS 7, which will be out relativly soon catoring more to enhancing the supplied utilities and to improve its network capabilities. It also depends on your system. If your system is an older model there is many reports of people having problems of working software with DOS 6 with older systems. One other thing, although it dosnt have much relevence to 7th Guest (holy awesome game at that), I got the speciallised Stacker for DOS 6 and it really sucks hard. With normal Double Space, although its slow it always worked flawlessly and there was never any unallocated blocks of data. Now that I have switched to Stacker, my system freezes up, there is plenty of unallocated data when it feels it would tee me off and the list goes on, so . DONT BOTHER WASTING YOUR MONEY. Later Jon Deragon --- Ezycom V1.02 04fa001e * Origin: HotShot BBS Line #1 +61-3-464-2163 (3:633/366) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LINDSAY CHISHOLM Number: 1977 To: BRENDAN FARTHING Date: 08/28/93 6:38a Subj: Aust. Phone Disc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BF>MSGID: 3:712/218@FidoNet 6c5e440e BF>Has anyone used the Australian Phone Book CD ? BF>Also, does anyone know the difference between the one that sells for BF>about $1500.00 (I think it's called Aus On Disc) and the one that sells BF>for about $50.00 (This one is called Australian Phone Disk). BF>The one that sells for $50 contains the entire Yellow and White Pages BF>for every state in Australia. BF>Why is there such a HUGE price difference between that disk and the BF>$1500.00 one ?????? BF>Anyone that knows please reply, BF>Regards, BF>Brendan Farthing. BF>--- Ezycom V1.02 00f90022 BF> * Origin: 500cc F1 BBS - 4 Gigs, 10 V32Bis Lines, 02-5504317 BF>(3:712/218) The company i work for has the $1500.00 one and it is software that allows access to Telecom so as to list any person at anytime despite several moves by that person! Whereas the as you said the $50.00 one is just a list of the yellow and white pages, so if they move that number is wrong....cya --- SLMR 2.1a Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRENDAN FARTHING Number: 1978 To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/28/93 11:46a Subj: Re: Aust. Phone Disc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CC>>> Also, does anyone know the difference between the one that CC>>> sells for about $1500.00 (I think it's called Aus On Disc) and CC>>> the one that sells for about $50.00 (This one is called CC>>> Australian Phone Disk). CC>>> The one that sells for $50 contains the entire Yellow and CC>>> White Pages for every state in Australia. CC>>> Why is there such a HUGE price difference between that disk CC>>> and the $1500.00 one ?????? CC>Simple! The one for $1500. offers an up to date database, CC>while the other CC>one ( Phone Disk ) is nothing more than scans from the phone CC>book, which can CC>mean you would get a lot of " This number has been CC>disconnected " messages. The $50 phone disk is updated twice a year, how often is the $1500.00 disk ? CC>Also, Aus On Disk offers a more features than does Phone CC>Disk. As they say, Do you know what extra features it has ? For an extra $1450.00 I hope it has heaps. Also, I would hate to have to outlay $1500.00 every time I wanted an up to date disk. $50 sound more reasonable every 6 months. I also have access to the Telecom Computer Phone books which are up to date on a daily basis but that is the most UN-USER FRIENDLY piece of s#*t I have ever used in my life. Thanks for the info, Brendan Farthing. --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Coastal Communications Line 1 (3:714/906) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DARIN CELINO Number: 1979 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/28/93 9:19p Subj: ADVICE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> >Not sure of this.....but I think that the PAS 16 has a kit available -> >Mitsumi from the CD port. -> -> There is no such thing - though the PAS16 SCSI port will work with a -> of drives, the Mitsumi is NOT among them. -> You may be thinking of the ATI FX/CD sound card, which DOES have a M -> compatable port on it.... Come on Brice.....I haven't even been in this echo for over a month now. Why don't you just delete all those old packets and start with current stuff. --- WM v3.00/92-0084 * Origin: Flite-Line Lincoln, NE. 402-421-1171 (ZyXEL) (1:285/203.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY RUZICKA Number: 1980 To: DEVIN WOOD Date: 08/28/93 4:23p Subj: NEC CDR-84 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Devin, I bought the NEC-84 (instead of a caddy-less CD ROM) because I am handicappedI had the same concern as you about mishandling CD's. I have zero percent finger mobility in my left hand and 50 percent in my right. I am by nature right-handed. I hold the door open with my left hand and insert with my right. I do it carefully as to not break the door although the door is probably stronger than I think it is. I like the drive alot. I would definately opt for a caddy drive and the NEC is top of the line. Hope this was of some help to you. --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Cedar Valley DataNet 319-393-4588 (1:283/135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 1981 To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/29/93 1:48a Subj: Re: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No PL> The main advantage of a caddy system (IMHO) is when you frequently PL> swap disks; much easier having them in caddies, and merely shove PL> them in, then having to fiddle around with the case. You PL> can also leave a few of them around and not worry about scratches. RE> You're a dealer aren't you Poe?? Its probably cheaper for you to get RE> caddies than it is for the average user.... Perhaps. Margins are pretty slim on that sort of thing. RE> Most users I know of with caddy type drives can only afford one caddy Oh, get REAL! Caddies are about $4 each in packs of 5. If one cannot afford $43 for a caddy, how can one afford $25-$100 for the software and $250 for the drive? Les --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: GUI? Ptui!!! --- Last Chance Pt 4 (1:387/800.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1982 To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 12:46a Subj: OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ==================== OS2 ON CD For Only $65.00 ? ==================== IN STOCK Until Septemeber 14, 1993 you can purchase the complete OS/2 v2.21 package, which offer's you the installation disks, cd, manuals and other special discounts for only $65.00! Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65. Call NOW and get your copy today! ORDER LINE ONLY 800-243-0517 Boris Osadciw ... Press F1 to Reboot --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 1983 To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 12:46a Subj: RED HOT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No $$$$$$$ R E D H O T C D' S A T R E D H O T P R I C E S $$$$$$$ ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 - PRICE - $25.00ec ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX PRICE - $15.00ec ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM PRICE - $35.00ec MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE PRICE - $25.00ec PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10. KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60. COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - - 24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO Boris Osadciw ... I married the Mail Lady! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAUL SWIDER Number: 1984 To: GEOFF MOEHLE Date: 08/28/93 1:07p Subj: panasonic Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 08-25-93 Geoff Moehle wrote to All... GM> Hello!!!!!!! I was thinking about buying a double speed CD- GM> ROM from panasonic...however I was wondering about the 350 GM> milisecond access time...is that REAL slow?????? Would GM> that cause problems???/ The transfer rate is a GM> 300mb/second... ^^^^^^^^^ I think you mean Kb/sec. or else you really have a "souped up" 562 ;). I just installed a Panasonic 562 in my daughter's computer and it seems to work just fine. I ran a program called CDBENCH on the MEGASEARCH DEMO CD and the specs came out as follows: 1/3 Stroke seek time 256.4ms Random seek time 157.5ms 1/3 Stroke seek and Read 415.8ms Sustained Long Read 310310.3 Bytes/sec. " Short " 307807.8 Bytes/sec. MegaSearch Benchmark 17.8 secs. This is just a relative thing used to check one CDROM drive to another. I would like to see the results against a Toshiba 3401 or a Texel 3024... (hint ..hint..if anybody else is reading this msg and has this CD and the named drives :) ) As for 350msec being slow.. again this is relative. Remember 100ms equals 1/10 of a second. The fact that once the drive gets to the data it has to transfer it'll be doing it at the double speed rate on the 562. For the money it seems to be a nice drive..my opinion of course. Hope this helps. >Paul< ... OFFLINE 1.50 "I never nake misteakes." --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Choice BBS, Las Vegas, NV 702-253-6527 HST DS 16.8k (1:209/710) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAN WILLEM RUYS Number: 1985 To: PHIL HORNBY Date: 08/24/93 8:53p Subj: Mistumi/Sb/Sbpro Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No PH> I don't know if my motherboard is unusual, but I had a wire a 3K3 PH> resistor in series with the speaker o/p, to reduce the volume a bit. PH> Without it, the beeps came out as {{{{{BEEPS}}}}}} :-) Same here. I ended up with 2K2, so we were close... _/an Willem --- * Origin: Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition... (2:280/802.18) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM ARRUDA Number: 1986 To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 11:41a Subj: Need Number Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have recently purchased a CR-562B drive from MPS. I am running from a Sound Blaster 16 card. I have had nothing but problems with the drive. It constantly causes "General Protection faults" when run in Windows. I have the "Seventh Guest" and "Day of the Tentacle" that run under dos, both lock up and halt the entire system. I am using a 486dx33 with 8megs of ram ,DOS 6.0, MSCDEX 2.2,Qemm7.0, Norton SpeedCache 4.0. I need the number for Creative Labs BBS. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. --- * WinQwk 1.30 #0 * Unregistered Evaluation Copy --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta * Origin: Mercury Opus * 10 Gigs/1200 Confs * 813-321-0734 (1:3603/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CR HAMILTON Number: 1987 To: LUIS CARVAJAL Date: 08/29/93 7:50a Subj: Kodak Photo CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Luis Carvajal wrote in a message to All: LC> Does anyone know what exactly should I need in order to LC> see pictures from a CD? LC> This is what I own: LC> - A Soundblaster CD-ROM LC> - Corel Draw 3.0 (I think this is also useful..) Requirements: A photo-CD compatible drive (preferably multisession) Photo-CD Software (by Kodak of one of the licensees) A Photo-CD (either yours that you have had made, or one from one of the stock companies...) I don't think that a SB or Corel Draw are going to enter into it one way or another.... CR --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Foundation BBS * FidoNet & AtariNet * 817-444-0155 (1:130/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEVIN WOOD Number: 1988 To: YVES DESJARDINS Date: 08/29/93 12:51p Subj: NEC CDR-84 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No YD>The front door is spring loaded and you must hold it down to insert >the CD in it. After pushing it just a bit, the CD is sucked into the >drive by itself. I thought by the way it looked it was spring loaded. I had hoped that once open it would stay open by itself. I'm not so sure I could handle it. I really have to try to get a look at one. Don't know if I can. * SLMR 2.1a * --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Your source for TBBS enhancement software! (1:322/360) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 1989 To: PADDY DRURY Date: 08/22/93 10:52p Subj: Cover CD 'PC MAG' Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No PD> GC> The UK August edition of PC MAGAZINE, carries a CD on the cover. It PD> GC> claims to contain a large number of the excellent utilities PD> GC> commissioned by the magazine, amongst other things. Odd.... I bought a copy of the issue in question in Greece, and mine came with (one, two?) floppy diskette (although the cover said there was supposed to be a CD-ROM). Did I get cheated? * SLMR 2.1 * --- WM v2.07/92-0654 * Origin: CAD Connection - Montesson, FR 33 (1) 39-52-98-54 (2:320/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 1990 To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/23/93 9:41a Subj: Cd-Rom Help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LG>-> I really need some advice and help concerning CD-ROM. Right now I LG>-> have a 386/DX40 with 4 megs RAM, a 330 meg HD, and a SB Pro. I'm LG>-> trying to decide if I should upgrade to a 486 (33 or 66), or get into LG>-> CD-ROM. People (who don't know alot) have told me that the SB will LG>-> only work with the Creative Lab's drive (Panasonic), is this true? LG>-> Basically, I'd like to know what some of you would do, LG>-> upgrade the CPU, His CPU is fine. Unless he has an urgent need for more power (for example, if he's working with pig-slow software like Corel Draw manipulating enormous images, or stuff like that, on a day-in-day-out basis where time is money. So I also would say: Get the CD-ROM drive! LG> Creative labs have already made a deal with panasonic they've already LG>released (amazing drive amazing price!) the panasonic CR-562B check out LG>the specs 320ms access time, 300kb/sec transfer speed, 64k cache (helps LG>a lot!), powered tray with eject button, THE ONLY device that can be LG>plugged onto the sound blaster pro or sound blaster 16, Yes, and THERE, RIGHT THERE, is the big GOTCHA. I wouldn't even consider buying that drive, no matter how attractive it is for any other reason, if I am arbitrarily and forever chained to a SoundBlaster Pro or 16 sound card in order to be able to use the CD-ROM drive. Why? Well, let's say that in 12 months somebody (Gravis, or somebody else) introduces a hot new sound card that makes everything else obsolete overnight. In your case, you're shafted, 'cuz you can't get rid of your now-obsolete SoundBlaster card without losing your CD-ROM drive too. It might be another thing if there were some super-significant synergy to be gained by tieing them together like that, but as far as I can see there isn't. It's merely a bundled interface, and that's all. If I was that desperately in need of I/O slots in my machine, I'd probably go looking elsewhere to gain one. Sorry, it just sounds like a bad bargain to me. LG>The mitsumis are around $190 american but their not as good they cannot LG>plug into the sound blaster pro, Right. Why does that make them "not as good"? Again, what reason is there to have to chain your CD-ROM leg to your sound board? LG>don't have a 64k cache, isn't FULLY LG>photo cd compatible Excuse me, but from everything I've read here, the Mitsumi handles Photo CD just fine (as long as you avoid that mis-labelled batch). LG>has 350ms access rate not 320ms ...way less than 10% difference. You would NEVER feel the difference there. I'm not saying that the Panasonic drive isn't a good value for what it is, but the negative of having to chain yourself to a SoundBlaster brand sound card in order to be able to hook it up is thoroughly repugnant, to me at least. * SLMR 2.1 * --- WM v2.07/92-0654 * Origin: CAD Connection - Montesson, FR 33 (1) 39-52-98-54 (2:320/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 1991 To: RICHARD NIXON Date: 08/23/93 9:44a Subj: CD-ROM INTERFACES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RN>BF>Always IN-2000 - don't settle for lesser Adaptec stuff.... RN>Ouch! I had the IN-2000 and was not pleased with its performance and RN>ability to handle more than just two HDs. What are you referring to? The IN-2000 handles more than just two hard drives just fine. RN>I am running Adaptec 154x cards now and have not had any problems. I've talked to LOTS of people running SCSI and I've never known anybody who had less problems getting it going than people running the IN-2000. The Adaptec is a nightmare by comparison. * SLMR 2.1 * --- WM v2.07/92-0654 * Origin: CAD Connection - Montesson, FR 33 (1) 39-52-98-54 (2:320/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 1992 To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 08/23/93 9:50a Subj: CD-ROM INTERFACES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LR> The Always card is in no way superior to the Adaptec line. In the LR>first place, the IN-2000 only comes as an ISA card, no MCA or EISA support. Why would anybody care about MCA? That's dead. Even IBM has started using ISA again. EISA is virtually dead, too. I'm not convinced that there's much value in a company that encourages users to buy future orphans. LR>do believe it is an ISA busmaster, but on an ISA system, only one busmaster LR>allowed, so one cannot utilize any other busmasters with an IN-2000. Also, Big deal there too... what other busmasters would you NEED to use, other than the disk controller board? What other ISA busmasters ARE there, even? LR>Also, Always has refused to produce OS/2 drivers for their card, while Adapt Again, I'm not sure that's a bad thing. A company can waste a lot of money chasing after all the latest fads, and it's the user that ultimately foots that bill. LR>is supported right out of the OS/2 box. Then you ought to criticize OS/2 for not including support for the IN-2000, since it is evidently IBM that ought to be providing the support for the Always board, rather than the opposite. LR>I am running an Adaptec 1742 EISA LR>busmaster SCSI HA under OS/2 2.1, and it runs wild circles around the LR>IN-200 And you are suggesting, maybe, that they cost the same? :-)) * SLMR 2.1 * --- WM v2.07/92-0654 * Origin: CAD Connection - Montesson, FR 33 (1) 39-52-98-54 (2:320/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 1993 To: STEVE PROCTOR Date: 08/23/93 9:54a Subj: CDROM Drives Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SP>I have been looking at my local computer papers and see the MITSUMI with SP>controller going for around $185.00. Is this a SCSI CDROM Drive? I need No, but it comes with its own interface card... you have nothing else to buy. SP>it to be SCSI as I will use it with my Adaptec 1542B or ProAudio Spectrum SP>Sound Card SCSI controller. Why do you feel obligated to use those? The Mitsumi is a fine drive at a great price. You won't make a mistake buying it. * SLMR 2.1 * --- WM v2.07/92-0654 * Origin: CAD Connection - Montesson, FR 33 (1) 39-52-98-54 (2:320/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 1994 To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 08/23/93 10:03a Subj: Magnto-optical disc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LR> It isn't. The entire explanation was bogus. IF the LASER beam LR>softened the plastic, you would wind up with a molten disk in a hurry, and i LR>they could generate a "magnetic beam", then they would not need the LASER. Well, on a WORM-type disc, the laser beam actually DOES deform a layer of the plastic, and that's what causes the bit to be written. LR> The LASER is used to arrange the magnetic domains, with one arrangem LR>representing a 1 and the other a 0. To read the information, the LASER writ LR>out a 1, and if that action causes a small induced current in a nearby read LR>head, then the bit was a zero, otherwise it was a 1. If it was a zero, then LR>the now false bit is immediately rewritten. Not really. What happens is that the laser beam heats up the spot that is going to be written, enabling a much larger and less precise magnetic field to determine the magnetization that holds as that spot (instantly) cools. * SLMR 2.1 * --- WM v2.07/92-0654 * Origin: CAD Connection - Montesson, FR 33 (1) 39-52-98-54 (2:320/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 1995 To: TIM SMITH Date: 08/24/93 9:02a Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TS> CB> Could you describe these bands in a bit more detail? Are they TS> CB> made of lead, rubber? Are they designed for this use (are they TS> CB> found with the CD stuff) or are they actually for some other TS> CB> purpose? TS>I don't know baout those bands yall are talking about, But You can goto TS>a High Priced Audio store and get, Looks like a pad to set on the cd-disk. TS>High priced meanning a store that carries like Dennon recivers. Don't waste your money. Those "CD-ROM stabilizer" things and the like are of _absolutely_ no value of all, other than to the snake-oil people who make them and the same kind of people who sell them. They capitalize on people's ignorance, and the desire for mystique. Anyone who understands the slightest bit about how things like CD-ROM work can understand that such "enhancement" products cannot POSSIBLY improve their sound (or any other aspect). * SLMR 2.1 * --- WM v2.07/92-0654 * Origin: CAD Connection - Montesson, FR 33 (1) 39-52-98-54 (2:320/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 1996 To: ALLEN DIETZ Date: 08/24/93 1:07p Subj: MPC ATLAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No AD>For a world atlas, Global Explorer from DeLorme Mapping is the best. AD>my opinion, Global Explorer is FAR superior to any other CD-ROM AD>based world atlas currently on the market. I second that opinion. The Software Toolworks US/World Atlas, for example, is pathetic by comparison (although admittedly cheaper). * SLMR 2.1 * --- WM v2.07/92-0654 * Origin: CAD Connection - Montesson, FR 33 (1) 39-52-98-54 (2:320/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 1997 To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/24/93 1:10p Subj: NEW MPC SPECS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE>For info, the Multimedia council has released the MPC level 2 spec and RE>I have listed it below :- I urge EVERYONE to boycott this garbage. A standard isn't a standard if the people making the hardware and software can continue to "raise the bar" by increasing the hardware required every six to twelve months. Why go to the trouble of meeting a standard, if six months later you find that you're still screwed? :-(( * SLMR 2.1 * --- WM v2.07/92-0654 * Origin: CAD Connection - Montesson, FR 33 (1) 39-52-98-54 (2:320/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: YVES CHARIER Number: 1998 To: LUCIANO MUNHOZ Date: 08/25/93 1:08a Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LM> Could anybody, please, give me some techinical specifications about LM> Mitsumi CD-ROM drives? SPECIFICATIONS Data Capacity, 12 cm disc Mode 1 540 MBytes, Typical Mode 2 630 MBytes, Typical Data Capacity, 8 cm disc Mode 1 180 MBytes, Typical Mode 2 210 MBytes, Typical (Meets or exceeds High Sierra and ISO 9660 specifications) Seek Time, 12 cm disc 1/3 stroke 350 msec Ave. Full stroke 650 msec Ave. Seek Time, 8 cm disc 1/3 stroke 250 msec Ave. Full stroke 400 msec Ave. Data Transfer Rate Mode 1 150 KBytes/sec sustained Mode 2 175 KBytes/sec sustained Data Spin-up Time 1.0 sec Error Rate Mode 1 Less Than 10**-12 Mode 2 Less Than 10**-9 Channels 2 Output Voltage: RCA Jacks 0.7 Vrms (10K Ohm load) (Max. Volume) Headphones Jacks 0.6 Vrms (32 Ohm load) (Max. Volume) Frequency Response (20Hz to 20KHz) 0**0.5/**-3 db Total Harmonic Distorsion 0.04% at 1kHz Size (WxHxL) 5.75 x 1.62 x 8.0 inches (including front panel) Weight 1.6 Lbs Disc Loading Side Mounted/Top Loading Voltage/Current +5VDC +/-5%, 0.4 Amps average +12VDC +/-5%, 0.2 Amps average Operating Temperature Range 32°F-104°F Non-Operating Temperature Range 22°F-151°F Operating Humidity Range 20 to 85% Non-Condensing Non-Operating Humidity Range 10 to 95% Non-Condensing MTBF 25,000 POH "Specifications subject to change without notice." (Installation Manual Ver. 1.0, p. 42) LM> Regards, LM> Luciano Munhoz You're welcome! Hope this helps... - Yves (from Paris XIIth, France) ... Buffaloes are back in Montana... --- PPoint 1.62 * Origin: Un Point parisien de Baby'yard (2:320/204.3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NICK FUNK Number: 1999 To: PAUL SWIDER Date: 08/29/93 4:31a Subj: Panasonic 562 & Pro Stud Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Aug 27 20:18>, Paul Swider of 1:209/710 writes: PS> PS> I just installed a CR-562b in my daughter's computer and it works PS> quite well. The place I purchased it from, MPS Multimedia, PS> Inc., sells the 562 for $249 and an interface card for $20. PS> She had a SB16 sound card in her computer so I just bought PS> the driver/cable kit for $20. PS> PS> If you are interested, check out, if you can, their ad in Sept's PS> Computer Shopper page 569. Oh, by the way, the driver they PS> supplied caused some "hiccups" on some audio stuff. I got PS> the most recent one from Creative Labs BBS and everything PS> works real nice now. >Paul< Paul I ordered the Panasonic CR-562 with the $20 dollar interface and the new Proaudio Studio 16 from MPS Multimedia the other day. The driver you mentioned above, what is it used for (CDROM or Sound card). By the way, which sound card are you using. How do you like the drive?? --- msgedsq 2.1 * Origin: LaPlace, LA Point (1:396/61.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED VISCUSI Number: 2000 To: DOUG SNELL Date: 08/28/93 8:19p Subj: Birthday check failure message! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I wish to gain a higher user status, thank you --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Wet N Wilde 2 BBS (518)371-0762 (1:267/112) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2001 To: RAY DYER Date: 08/28/93 11:20p Subj: Re: BBS Shareware CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> It may be some software interrupt problem on my system. I jus -> it out recently with all CD's affected. The CD can be read but it is -> slow. -> -> Running on 386-SX-33, 16 bit card. -> -> Native audio CD's run without problems as the drive takes control. I have 386 SX/25 16bit board.... Must be interrupt. I have IRQ 10 DRQ 5 TTYL, Henry --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0051] * Origin: This Old House * D.S. 16.8 * Tacoma Wa (1:138/173) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2002 To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/28/93 6:42a Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Well Josh, I got the latest InterAction Magazine and it said nothing -> depth about what might be on the CD-ROM version of that game, in an -> consercing Police Quest 4, they explained what it was going to be abo -> then at the end of the article in the last paragraph it said that the -> also be a CD-ROM version of that game, but they didn't tell in what w -> CD-ROM version is better than the regular version, I will keep you po -> any new things on it. C-ya and write back. Hi Ashwin! ANY Sierra CD has ALL the charcters done in VOICE. Like KQ6 CD has a 'song' at the beginning cartoon. With professional actors in it too. I'm not sure about PQ4 CD other than the first three were great, and this one has nothing to do with them. l8r, Henry * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377 --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0051] * Origin: This Old House * D.S. 16.8 * Tacoma Wa (1:138/173) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2003 To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/28/93 6:57a Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> What I like about sierra and dislike about sierra also. For the -> likeables sierra does in fact lower their prices by 50% after -> 6months-year when their sales have dropped so that others can get a -> chance to buy it at a low affordable cost just like space quest iv,wi -> beamish for around $13 u.s through a mail order company i've seen tho -> games were when new around $49 u.s. 3 times the price. What I don't -> like about sierra is they charge the cd version the exact same price -> the disk version when their making more profit on the cd version inst -> of the disk version if you calculate a typical sierra game on disk ta -> 10 disks thats 30cents each thats $3 american now a cd version would -> cost less than $1 now that extra $2 savings if they were to take that -> off it would $2 doubled at the distributor level and then doubled aga -> at the retail level would be almost $10 u.s. so that extra $10 they a -> making more profit off the cd version but the good thing though atlea -> they have the leeway to lower their prices on the cd rom versions but -> less leeway on the diskette versions. Why are you upset about a couple bucks? It takes about 1mil dollars to create a game today, and about 2yrs. worth of labor! The prices are VERY good! As for the others, they are STILL $40-$50 mailorder! Only on this board-echo have I seen any for under $20! Sierra wants $25 plus shipping to upgrade if you have original disk #1 or page of manual. Now, 7th Guest for instanc.... Cheapest I've seen is $60! Why don't you complain about Virgin's prices for a whil huh? l8r, Henry * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377 --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0051] * Origin: This Old House * D.S. 16.8 * Tacoma Wa (1:138/173) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2004 To: RACHEL REPSTAD Date: 08/28/93 7:03a Subj: games Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Rachel! -> I also have Laura Bow II and that was a good game. I have The Colonel -> Bequest too. Have you played that? That is a pretty challenging game. -> King's Quest V but I haven't beaten it. I've had it for about 2 years -> just doesn't make me want to play. I really liked King's Quest VI. I' -> Space Quest 2 a couple of times and I really don't think there is a g -> is too hard... just really challenging. The more challenging it is th -> determined I am to beat it. But if you are having lots of trouble, GE -> CHEAT SHEET! I'm sure if you look around hard enough you will find on -> could just call the Sierra board and edit that and just print it out. -> where most of today's cheat sheets come from today. Anyway, I have Ac -> Pacific and I want Red Baron. Dan Hatterick, y'know the Sysop of this -> really in flying simulations. I really want Space quest 5. I've beate -> the others and I would like to continue to do that. I just LOVE a go I want the CD version of laura Bow II too! :) I haven't played the Colonel's bequest, no longer available. I've beat KQ5 many times! If you need a hint just ask! I want to get 6 too! I haven't beat SQ2 yet, maybe I should play it more often :) I got Space Quest 5 for my birthday, what a cool game!!! I want to get the CD version next. I have the entire SQ collection including enhanced 1. Out of 2 and 3 3 is my favorite. I like the whole series more than any other so I really don't have any favorites... I have a couple of their sims too! they do a great job on them! TTUL, Henry * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377 --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0051] * Origin: This Old House * D.S. 16.8 * Tacoma Wa (1:138/173) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB SHUSTER Number: 2005 To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/24/93 9:30a Subj: Mac cd-roms Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey Boris - how about a listing of your Macintosh titles? They dn't have to be Mac specific, they can be dual format. - Bob Shuster --- DB 1.50/004225 * Origin: The Newtown Express BBS: 2400-16.8K 215-860-9724 5.1gigz (1:273/231) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT MOORE Number: 2006 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 08/24/93 11:56p Subj: $99 cd rom drives Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Just thought I would drop you a quick note. I sent the CD ROM drive to you by insured regular mail as you suggested. Let me know when you get it. You can leave me a message here, call me or leave me a message on the Internet (Robert.Moore@select.wyvern.com) if you have access to the Internet. Thanks for your help. --- FMail 0.92 * Origin: BestDealBBS, Va. Beach, Va. USA 804/340-4457,-3498,-1250 (1:275/47) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ELVIN EMERY Number: 2007 To: NIGEL ZETT Date: 08/23/93 12:31p Subj: Panasonic CR562 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=>On 18 Aug 93 22:19:00, Nigel Zett said the following to Laurens Linssen<=- NZ> Laurens, I cought you Email on our local echo and just wanted to tell NZ> you that the Panasonic CR562 is the "double-speed" drive of choice at NZ> preference. I currently sell them for US$267 installed, but they are NZ> cheaper for do-it-yourself-ers. When I got my computer in April it came with the SBPro only and no CD-ROM. Does the SBPro come with a driver that will work with the CD562 or would I need to download or request something from Creative ??? Also what is your price for a bare bones 562 without the card since I have a SBPro I would not need it (right ??).. Thanx Elvin E. Emery ... "Captain, I sense millions of minds focused on my cleavage." --- Blue Wave/TG v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Mind\/\/arp BBS 405.741.6921 (1:147/1030.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY VALUIKAS Number: 2008 To: TERRY MARRS Date: 08/23/93 8:50p Subj: Sony's support number Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Terry.. Yes Sony has a support BBS... Here's there voice number 1-800-326-9551 and I think the support BBS is 408-894-0555, but I'm not sure... Tv --- WM v3.01/93-0027 * Origin: OKC-PC User's Group Support BBS (405) 348-9810 (1:147/1001.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY HOFFERMAN Number: 2009 To: ALL Date: 08/25/93 7:50a Subj: Cdrom dealers wanted Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Greetings to All, We are looking for resellers and system builders who would be interested in marketing and/or bundling commercial, shareware, and adult CDROM software. We offer a wide range of titles at very competitive pricing. If you would be interested, please contact me at CONSOLIDATED CDROM Tel: 215-276-3657 or Fax: 215-276-3854. Thanks, Gary === * OLX 2.1 TD * When the mind is ready, a teacher appears. - Zen --- DB 1.53/001777 * Origin: DSC BBS * Ivyland, PA * (215) 443-7390 * 5,000 SIGS (1:273/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HEATHER KRAUSE Number: 2010 To: ALL Date: 08/26/93 11:36a Subj: Toshiba Q's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I'm considering purchase of a Toshiba 3401 (internal) CD ROM drive and have some questions. Anyone with answers or comments, please jump in! ? What's a good adapter for use with this drive? What's the difference between the 8-bit and 16-bit controllers? ? What additional cables, mounting kit, etc. will be required to hook the drive up to the controller and to my SoundBlaster 16 (for audio)? I (will) have an available 5.25" slot in tower case - Gateway 2000 486/33 system. Any known problems with the Toshiba and this computer? ? What's a good price for the drive? For the controller? ? Any recommendations on a good dealer for purchase of same? Do they possibly take used equipment in trade (otherwise, I gotta sell a couple of items before I can get the drive)? If you are a dealer, please leave price, etc. info if this is an appropriate conference. Or you can call me at 913-888-5201 ext.257 (8a-4p central, or leave voice mail). I need a package with the items listed above and a couple of disk caddies. No software required (I already have a CD ROM drive I'll be selling if I decide to get the new one). Thanks for the info! -hk --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta-'e' * Origin: Sound Advice - 24 Nodes (816)436-4516 (1:280/333) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SETH KLINE Number: 2011 To: STEVE PROCTOR Date: 08/26/93 10:59a Subj: Re: CDROM Drives Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I might want one of those CD-ROM drives. How much would they be? --- Echodor 3.11a * Origin: The Cerberus BBS-Haverhill,MA-508-521-6883-HST/DS (1:324/137.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EDWARD FOSTER Number: 2012 To: ELDON WAKEFIELD Date: 08/26/93 5:48a Subj: CD-ROMS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Eldon, Tuesday August 24 1993 19:53, Eldon Wakefield wrote to All: EW> Have a question for anyone I have 4 Sony 535 cd-drives on my BBS this past EW> week end some wierd stuff stated to happen can put a cd in one of the EW> drives the light comes on when it goes out it will eject the cd can take EW> another on and it works the one that didnt work woul work in another drive Sounds to me like you may need to clean the optics.I'm not sure of how you clean the Sony drives, but when my system starts acting up as described here I get in there with a cotton swab & Windex and clean the optics...I have Hitachies.. Edward Foster, " The Oasis BBs " *** GoldED 2.41+, Don't read mail without it! *** --- GoldED 2.41+ (Reg#1129) "Not tonight dear,I have a Modem" * Origin: "The Oasis BBs/315.947.5916/USR/HST DS 16800 w/ASL" (1:2608/40) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID NGHIEM Number: 2013 To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 2:01a Subj: pioneer 600] Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I plan on buying a pioneer 600 changer for use for my BBS. But I am wondering that if I had six cd's on the drive at once, would they show up as 6 drives? Or do I have to alternate the cd's constantly? I hope this is a software automated process. I would hate to buy six cd's, put them on the system only to find out that I have to manually change a cd when a user wants to look at another one. If anyone can help in using the pioneer for the BBS, thanks!!!! --- WM v3.01/92-0201 * Origin: SILVERADO EXPRESS, No. Highlands, CA. 916-344-8146 (1:203/1102.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON SPROUL Number: 2014 To: ALL Date: 08/28/93 7:43p Subj: Mitsumi and Gravis Ultrasound Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thanks to all who responded to my plea, but after finding that the Mitsumi uses up to 80% of the CPU in conjunction with the usage from my Gravis software. This was too much for my 386DX/33Mhz to handle and I have upgraded to a Texel double spin drive anyway so all my problems are solved. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Download Dungeon SuperBBS - RA PRO 1.11 - (705)749-3233 (1:229/318) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 2015 To: LUIS CARVAJAL Date: 08/29/93 12:54p Subj: Games Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hi there, -> -> Has anyone seen 'The day of the tentacle' on CD?. How does it -> differ from -> the regular version? -> I have heard that 'Dragon's Lair' is about to be released for -> CD-ROM. Has -> anyone seen it yet? Do you know if it is going to be more of the same -> crap or it is going to be, finally, something close to the real -> thing, the coin-op machine?? You know with 680 megs of information its going to be the full version but don't know if they are going to take all the photo's from the coin up version i noticed the disk versions of dragon slayer are redone. Louis --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MATT METZINGER Number: 2016 To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/29/93 3:43a Subj: Maximus & Downloading Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Carlos! Tuesday August 24 1993 02:37, Carlos Benitz wrote to All: CB> I'm having a bit of trouble when downloading a file from the disc at CB> 1200bps (that's what's in the notebook, I haven't watched other users yet CB> so I don't know about faster speeds). CB> Every 16K, *exactly*, Maximus reports "Unable to read drive F" (the rom). CB> When I'm running FrontDoor/Maximus alone, the file transmission stops at CB> 16384 bytes, *WITHOUT ERROR* (although obviously the entire file isn't CB> there). Attempting to resume under Zmodem results in a new copy which CB> terminates at the same place. Carlos, I think this is a Maximus problem, but I don't have a CD-ROM so I don't have a fix handy. Ask in the Fido Maximus echo, MUFFIN. Matt --- GoldED 2.41+ * Origin: The Tranquility Grille (1:147/3038) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2017 To: GORDON FLETCHER Date: 08/29/93 12:04a Subj: BIBLES & RELIGION Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GF>MS>Sorry Keith, our special purchase stock is gone on those, but they are GF>MS>in stock again at the regular price of $13.00. GF>Mike, Do you also have "Shakespeare" at a good price. If so, will order GF>both. Gordon, Got 'em in stock at $16.50. Just say the word. 8) .\\ike --- * SLMR 2.1a * Tagline thievery . . . On the next Geraldo! --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2018 To: GREG MCDONELL Date: 08/29/93 12:04a Subj: CD LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GM> MS> STARVECTOR CD-ROM LIQUIDATION SPECIALS! GM> MS> Shareware...$22 Clipart Heaven...$19 5Star Prem. Windows.$27 GM> MS> Otherware I...$17 Jedi Collection..$39 History of Jazz.$45 GM> MS> Hacker Chronicles...$24 Reel Clips..$35 Kodak Photo CD.$18 GM> MS> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 GM>Mike, I was wondering about this Kodak Photo CD ... is it editing GM>tools, a database utility or what?? I may need it if Digital Cameras GM>ever reduce in price down to my price range 8-) It is software to enable you to view, edit, and otherwise have fun with photographic images on the new Kodak Photo CD's. BTW, you don't need a digital camera to enjoy Photo CD technology, just a plain ol' 35mm and a Photo CD unit or compatible CD-ROM drive! The way it works is that you take your film into your favorite authorized Kodalux film processor, and about a week or so later, you get a CD back with all your pictures on it. I've seen them in action, and with a good monitor, the quality is really amazing. GM>Also, in my recent order to you ( and thanks for prompt service on GM>the last couple of orders, BTW ) I included a request for Return GM>to Zork, which is supposed to be out soon. You may care to let myself GM>and others know via this echo when this title, and also the new Tex GM>Murphy and Labyrinth CDs, become available. I'm sure there are a lot Yes, thanks very much for the order. We should have them all in stock very soon, and they will be included in our CD master lists when they arrive. Hope this helps, .\\ike --- * SLMR 2.1a * E-Mailing frequencies are open Captain. --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2019 To: ROB MCINTYRE Date: 08/29/93 12:04a Subj: CD LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RM>Oh... Pity. Huh? --- * SLMR 2.1a * I think my data transmission is low on fluid. --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2020 To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 12:04a Subj: KING'S QUEST VI IN STOCK! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BRAND NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR! King's Quest VI.....$47 Shareware Explorer..$59 Phonedisc USA.......$69 Soundware Coll'ctn..$27 So Much Shareware 3.$28 Gameware Collection.$24 Aminet Amiga 1993...$15 5 Star Windows......$27 Electronic Cookbook.$33 Programmers Megapak.$29 Canadian Shareware..$19 Precision Mapping...$79 Shareware Online 2.soon Microsoft Golf......$58 Mac Shareware.......$22 M/M Computer Tutor..$30 Int'l Graphics Libr.$33 Color Magic Clipart.$28 The Holy Bible......$24 Am. Bus Phonebk 93..$35 Reel Clips..........$35 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5 --- * SLMR 2.1a * This tagline will self-destruct in 5-million nanoseconds. --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 2021 To: CHRIS ROBINSON Date: 08/28/93 12:16p Subj: 16 bit sound card - HELP! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Get a Sound Galaxy NX Pro. I just purchased one for $180 and it features 16 bit audio, audio input, FM synthesis, SCSI interface (which I use with a double spin drive, works great!), compatability with soundblaster pro, adlib, pas, speech thing, and disney sound source. Comes in the box with speakers, programs/games, and a huge book. Works great with MIDI also. My friend has a game that crashes with his SB16, and works on my SG! Randy --- WM v3.00/93-0105 * Origin: Buck's Place BBS 11+GIG 100k FILES 201 adult echos (1:202/1513.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY MCANALLY Number: 2022 To: ALL Date: 08/28/93 1:02p Subj: S3 video chip Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have a Cirrus logic 1MB vesa local bus video card on my 486DX/33. Does this video card have a S3 chip in it? The docs claim windows acceleration. I ran a vga video test and the docs said a 10-12 frame per second video redraw in dos is average. It measured 88.1 frames per second om mine!!! I can't see how there could be a problem with slowness. I really want 7th guest and don't want stupid incompatability. Randy --- WM v3.00/93-0105 * Origin: Buck's Place BBS 11+GIG 100k FILES 201 adult echos (1:202/1513.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON FLETCHER Number: 2023 To: 12500 Date: 08/29/93 2:21p Subj: BIBLES & RELIGION Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No NOTE: This message was originally addressed to MIKE SHANNON and was forwarded to you by JAMES BRYANT -------------------- MS>Sorry Keith, our special purchase stock is gone on those, but they are MS>in stock again at the regular price of $13.00. Mike, Do you also have "Shakespeare" at a good price. If so, will order both. --- TMail v1.31.5 --- WM v2.09/92-0513 * Origin: SGT ROCKs BBS, Never Forget! Never Forgive! (1:202/1321) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES BRYANT Number: 2024 To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 2:42p Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I've just finished 7th Guest and it was great. The graphics were truely amazing, the sound was pretty good too. I'm selling it for $35 call James at 1-619-538-0973 --- WM v2.09/92-0513 * Origin: SGT ROCKs BBS, Never Forget! Never Forgive! (1:202/1321) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE MITCHELL Number: 2025 To: BRIAN HIPPS Date: 08/26/93 2:08p Subj: Files.bbs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I heard Brian Hipps talking about "Files.bbs" to All on 08-22-93 04:59: BH> I'm trying to setup my BBS using Night Owl-9, but the files.bbs on BH> the disc is incompatible with the software I'm running. The author of I just installed PonyROM Door on my BBS, and all is working excellent! I suggest you try it to atleast get the CD-ROM up and online for users to access. OOC: What BBS software are you using? If you're using PC- Board, there is a program written specifically for PCBoard for the Night Owl CD-ROM (any version). And another OOC: How much did you pay for your NIGHT_OWL_V9? I paid $25 at a HamShow for mine... Version: 2.3 iQBVAgUBLHq4EZNmzejRqL0TAQGWPwH7BeoeM5VdY3hQaD1BHleiAFR0s8BPDPmM 1JnTOy+xr5gjxiiKlSqDuRU7u1rh8T1yakYI8dqBIR7nLUpgkd2Vbw== =DxBW ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Renegade v07-17 Beta * Origin: Cruise'In City BBS (1:273/309) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 2026 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/28/93 9:20p Subj: CD SPEEDWAY Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ok --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: Phone Henge [203-826-1153 HST/V32b] New Britain,CT (1:142/212) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 2027 To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/28/93 9:35p Subj: Re: Cd-rom help! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Sorry to say, but there are 12000 BPS modems, L8tr Dude. --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: Phone Henge [203-826-1153 HST/V32b] New Britain,CT (1:142/212) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 2028 To: YVES DESJARDINS Date: 08/28/93 9:42p Subj: Benchmark test for CDROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No If you find one, tell me. --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: Phone Henge [203-826-1153 HST/V32b] New Britain,CT (1:142/212) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 2029 To: ERIC HSIAO Date: 08/28/93 9:42p Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No So is the Sb16ASP --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: Phone Henge [203-826-1153 HST/V32b] New Britain,CT (1:142/212) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN POLIVY Number: 2030 To: JAMES MUNRO Date: 08/29/93 11:01a Subj: Sony driver for os2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No James, -> Does any one know where I could get a driver for my SONY CDU535 -> series. To enable me to run it with OS2 ver. 2.1. -> Ihave to reboot dos all the time right now to run my CD. -> thanks anyone who can help I have the same CdROM, and am about to switch to OS/2. If you locate this Driver (which I am pretty sure is around somewhere) can you let me know? It would help a lot. Dan --- InterPCB 1.50 * Origin: Kids And Cops * Lynn, MA * (617) 599-2499 * (1:101/290) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY WHITE Number: 2031 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/29/93 8:45a Subj: Re: BRAND NEW CD'S! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No King's Quest VI better than The 7th Guest? Obviously you've never played either one. I've played both and The 7th Guest is on another level. King's Quest VI is O.K. but nothing compared to The 7th Guest. --- FreeMail/QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gam * Origin: Dark Knight's BBS! (915)944-9283 949-5077 (1:383/26) (1:383/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JON SHEARIN Number: 2032 To: ERIC ESKAM Date: 08/28/93 3:27p Subj: HELP WITH MSCDEX Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Anyone have a text file laying around that explains the switches for > MSCDEX? Eric, If you are using MS-DOS 6.0, you can look up the switches with the command HELP MSCDEX. If you are not using MS-DOS 6 (or don't have any access to it), let me know and I'll post a list of them. Hope this helps. Later, JS. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: Micro Message Service NCRTP (919)779-6674 TBBS 2.2M (1:151/102) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JON SHEARIN Number: 2033 To: MARCUS LEE Date: 08/28/93 3:51p Subj: 7TH GUEST W/ 100% VIDEO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I was thinking of purchasing an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro 2mb/EISA... > and I noticed you said you had probs playing 7th Guest and only 86% > optimal on the video. . . . > Oh, and do you know ANY video cards that get 100%? Marcus, I am currently running a 486DX/33MHz VLB machine with a Cirrus Logic VLB Video Card (uses the CL-GD5426 chip). This combination gives 100% on 7th Guest. BTW, the 86% with the ATI sounds awfull. I got 74% using a Trident 8900CL ISA card on a 486SX/25. Later, JS. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: Micro Message Service NCRTP (919)779-6674 TBBS 2.2M (1:151/102) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED YEE Number: 2034 To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/29/93 11:50a Subj: CD sound Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thanks for all the information on CD-ROM connection plugs. I just used the one on my PAS+ and I get nice sound from the CD-ROM and from other sources from the same set of speakers. THANKS. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: TechTalk; Calgary, Alberta, CANADA, HST 16.8/V.32bis (1:134/40) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WILLIAM CHILDRESS Number: 2035 To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/29/93 11:10p Subj: Sound blaster 16 vs 16asp Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LG> You mean there is a daughterboard for the sb16/asp? That is fantastic >don't know if i ever will need it though but if i were a musician/artist >it would be a fantastic deal rather than buying those stand alone midi >keyboards having to buy cartridges and record sound fx's through the mic >of the midi instead through the computer and be able to edit things. Media Vision (Aug 5), a leading supplier of multimedia for personal computers, introduced its first add-in sound board with sampled-sound music synthesis. This extends Media Vision's Pro Audio 16 sound card family by offering professional-quality sound and advanced software. Dubbed the Pro AudioStudio 16XL, it's the result of a joint development and marketing effort with Korg U.S.A. Inc. The companies have been working side by side to incorporate Korg's wavetable synthesis with the 16-bit sound technology developed by Media Vision. The Pro AudioStudio 16XL add-in board will deliver professional-quality music recording and playback to desktop personal computers. Based on the same chipset used in Korg's other professional electronic music synthesizers, the 32-voice wavetable synthesizer uses digitized recordings of real instruments to generate music. It is capable of producing the sounds of 128 different musical instruments, and its special effects include studio-quality digital reverb and chorus which add ambiance and depth to musical compositions. In addition to the Korg synthesizer, the Pro AudioStudio 16XL will feature an on-board FM-synthesizer, a software controllable mixer, a game port and an industry-standard SCSI CD-ROM controller interface. And, a built-in MIDI interface allows control of other MIDI devices. The sound card is capable of recording and playback of 16-bit stereo digital audio with sample rates of 48kHz (beyond CD-quality sound). Not only that, but an on-board audio mixer allows simultaneous recording of multiple audio sources. Also, there is a 4-to-1 audio compression/decompression feature. Of course, it comes bundled with a variety of software applications that take advantage of the card's advanced features. P.S. Perhaps you might consider waiting until this one is released in the next month of so. <Alan> --- GEcho 1.00/beta+ * Origin: Dixieland BBS / Macon Ga / 912-471-6833 (1:3611/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WILLIAM HERBERT Number: 2036 To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 5:25p Subj: WANTED Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Wanted: Used Pioneer DRM 600a will pay up to 600$$ please respond. Or you can reach me on my bbs aT 609 487 8321 -)verbyte --- * Origin: Ground Zero 813-849-4034 New Port Richey, FL (1:3619/25.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HERMAN WIGGINS Number: 2037 To: ALL Date: 08/30/93 4:04a Subj: Cd-Roms Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! I have So Much Shareware BBS ready for sale 3 disk set, price $40.00 if you are interested in these disk reply here..Also have some other titles which I will announce later... * WCE 1.10/2094 * CMOS....grows on CSHELLS --- GOMail v1.2 [DEMO] 09-27-93 * Origin: International Computers (813)823-4364 (1:3603/300) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK WIMMER Number: 2038 To: DOUG SCHWANTES Date: 08/28/93 11:37p Subj: CD ROM disk cache Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DS> Does anyone out there know of a good disk cache for a CD-ROM? DS> DS> DS> ... Catch the Blue Wave! DS> --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR] DS> * Origin: -= W E B B =- Watertown, WI (414) 262-0502 (1:154/801.0) DS> Lightning is supposed to be good. It also speeds up other drives, as well as comes with some other utilities. MARK --- FastEcho 1.25 * Origin: C.P.S. 14.4K (414)821-9434 2400 (414)821-9430 (1:154/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON BOSMAN Number: 2039 To: DERIK MINNICH Date: 08/28/93 4:13p Subj: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DM>ONLY catch is, you must buy C.O.D. which runs like $29. I I have to question the $29. for COD. UPS would be about $10 max for shipping, insurance, and COD tag. Do you have any idea why the company you mentioned would want $19 more for doing business the easy way? ___ X OLX 2.2 X When you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Lighthouse CBCS HST/V.32, 150+ echos, 517-321-0788 (1:159/950) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES MUNRO Number: 2040 To: DAVE TERRELL Date: 08/28/93 8:08p Subj: Sony driver for OS2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thanks for you reply I havnt tried that North Carolina number yet that you gave me for a CD-ROM driver mine is a SONY CDU535 your cd is a different number. Would it still work with my CD?? Where about is your BBS is it any closer to Niagara Falls than North Carolina?? thanks for you reply --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: Electric Blue BBS Node 1 Niagara Falls, Can. (416)35 (1:247/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HOA HO Number: 2041 To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 08/28/93 7:15p Subj: Re: Norton Speedcache Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> This is just another silly reply to Ashwin Bihari <=- AB> Hey everyone, please tell me what this Norton SpeedCache is, is this AB> a cache for the CD-ROM if so, does it come with Norton Utilities, or is AB> it a totaly different product and how much does it cost and does it AB> work, you see I have a 350 ms 150 kb/sec Mitsumi drive and though I am AB> perfectly satisfied by it sofar, I would like to speed it up, so AB> please tell me what this SpeedCache is about, thanx and C-ya AB> Ashwin Norton Speedcache+ is sold separately by Symantec. It is similar to NCACHE2 found in Norton Utilities except that it can cache practically anything that can have a drive designation. It does speed up accessing files on my Mitsumi and Chinon 435 but not that much. Both of my drives are 150kps, 350ms or so. I think it would be more beneficiary for people with CD-ROMs rated above 400ms. Also I found that it isn't that stable unless you assign a huge amount of stacks to it. ... The OFFICIAL tagline of the 1996 Olympics! --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: TIBM Wizard.Echomail Hub USRDS(416)7436703 (1:250/401.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANDREW SEE Number: 2042 To: ANDRE QUEREE Date: 08/26/93 9:15a Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No AQ> -=> Quoting Yves Desjardins to Chris Robinson <=- AQ> AQ> YD> anyone who wants to buy a 16 bits sound card. It is fully compa AQ> YD> with the sound blaster, the sound quality blows you away and it AQ> AQ>But remember it's only compatible with the original Sound Blaster, no AQ>SB Pro or SB16 - that's another limiting factor for this sound card! Also it is only an FM card, and all FM cards sound the same... Bad. I don't see how people can say the sound quality of an SB/PAS/Adlib Gold etc, can blow them away. They all use the same OPL3 4 op fm chip. Now if that dude heard a wavetable card...THEN he would be blown away. * CmpQwk #UNREG * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- EzyQwk V1.02 * Origin: 500cc F1 BBS - 4 Gigs, 10 V32Bis Lines, 02-5504317 (3:712/218) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANDREW SEE Number: 2043 To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/26/93 9:21a Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No HP>I also want to get the CD version of the Wing Commander series. It is the same as the Disk version. * CmpQwk #UNREG * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- EzyQwk V1.02 * Origin: 500cc F1 BBS - 4 Gigs, 10 V32Bis Lines, 02-5504317 (3:712/218) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY STOTT Number: 2044 To: DERIK MINNICH Date: 08/29/93 7:32a Subj: Sanyo Cd-rom Drive. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 08-25-93, in a colourful display of the English language, Derik Minnich said to All:- DM>Hi everone! DM> DM>I am searching for someone who has been around CD-ROM's for a LONG DM>time. Try Bob Hall! Rumour has it that he has been in the cdrom game so long that he used cdrom disks on the wheels of the cart he used to move mammoth steaks back to the cave! <bg> Seriously, as the founder and moderator of this echo for 10 years or more, Bob will most likely have oyur answer. --- ■ WinQwk 2.0 B4 #220 ■ Warm & sunny in Australia! Again! --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Coastal Communications Multiline BBS (02)977-6820 (3:714/906) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: POE LIM Number: 2045 To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/29/93 9:34p Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Rowan, On Aug 23 20:44 in a msg to Poe Lim, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote: > caddies than it is for the average user.... Most users I know of > with caddy type drives can only afford one caddy... and they are > amazed and impressed by the Panasonic.... The cheapest caddies I've bought (and this is cheaper than what a dealer I know can get them for) was via this echo, from a local contact (take a bow, Tony S. :). It can be a hassle when you have to handle multiple CD to take them out of their cases; easier just to keep them in caddies, and slip them in as required. As to the cost, I calculate it as a percentage of the cost of the ROMs; most of the time they come to less than 10% of the cost, which is acceptable for the protection thus gained. Cheers, Poe --- * Origin: Serendipity Inc, Cowra. +61-63-41 1859 (3:623/630) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SIMON MACKAY Number: 2046 To: JOSH PICHE Date: 08/28/93 11:15p Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JP>I've heard that the CD rom version will be out around the same time as JP>version. Will the CD version include extra stuff, or is it just on CD JP> JP> Josh Piche JP> JP>--- Maximus 2.01wb JP> * Origin: Tumbler's Tavern BBS, now at 14.4bps! (613) 825-9302 (1:16 JP> Do you know anything about Police Quest 4. From this echo, I gather it is on floppy disk and / or CD-ROM in the US by now. Do you know if it is released, its storyline and the quality of the images? Thanks Simon :-) Melbourne Australia. * WinQwk 2.0 #0 * Unregistered Evaluation Copy --- WM v2.05/91-0511 * Origin: Talk Channel BBS Mail System (03) 509-5888 (3:632/325) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANDREW SEE Number: 2047 To: STEPHEN KOVACSISS Date: 08/29/93 10:09a Subj: EXPLAIN SOUND CARDS TO ME Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SK > AS}Who told you that? The GUS does "true" 16 bit playback, SK > at sample rates up SK > }to 60 kHz. SK > It has 16-bit playback with up to 44.1 kHz sample rates. SK > Stephen The GUS is actually capable of Higher sample rates than the Spec states. (Can be tweaked into sampling at 60 kHz.) --- Fmail 0.96+ RA200+ * Origin: Galen BBS "A Happy Heart is like Good Medicine" (3:711/920) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE PESANT Number: 2048 To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 08/29/93 9:50p Subj: Re: CD-Rom Catalog Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Jim Lambert to All <=- JL> I have just finished making our new CD-Rom catalog. We have many new JL> products and have reduced the price on a lot of the others. If you JL> would like a copy of this catalog, please log on and download JL> catalog.zip. It lists all of our titles with prices and descriptions. Hi there Jim; how are you? I was wonderin' if you could FREQ me a copy of your new catalog...I can be reached through FidoNet at 1:153/217. Thanks a lot in advance. -=Cheers=- Steve. ... Don't hit me, Mr. Moderator... I'll go back on topic... I swear! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.11 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FABRICE GROVER Number: 2049 To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 7:38p Subj: GOOD CD-ROM??? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey out there. I'm looking for a cd-rom for my future 486DX2-66 Mhz. I have no idea what kind to get, what the different names are, what's expensive etc... If anyone has any opinions on which cd-rom is a good buy with a nice price/performance ratio, I'd love to here from you. ttyl, ƒabrice G. --- TMail v1.31.4 * Origin: Dial-A-File BBS - (604) 736-FILE (1:153/776) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY VALUIKAS Number: 2050 To: VICKI CRAWFORD Date: 08/29/93 2:42p Subj: MultiLine/CDROM/DV/HELP!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> TV> Can anyone help me on this? -> TV> I keep getting CRC errors on all files download from the CDROM. -> TV> With one Node up everything works but with more than one Node -> TV> I get errors. -> -> The problem is either the access speed of the CD rom or your comms po I found out later that I needed to setup my CD for polling instead of high speed software transfers.... Thanks for the post... Tv --- WM v3.01/93-0027 * Origin: OKC-PC User's Group Support BBS (405) 348-9810 (1:147/1001.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SHAUN RADER Number: 2051 To: LUIS CARVAJAL Date: 08/29/93 6:30p Subj: Games Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No <<***** LUIS CARVAJAL wrote this on 08-22─93 {May be edited} *****>> ─> Has anyone seen 'The day of the tentacle' on CD?. How does it diff ─>from the regular version? Yes, I have the DOTT CD-ROM game. It has full talking through the whole game. No need to read the characters lines (you can if you still want to). It's great! I love those adventure games with talking (I also have the Space Quest IV CD which has full talking too). That's basically the only difference. The CD version also comes with a free hint book, and a different shaped box (triangle). -Shaun Rader- -Madman@Liberty.Com- 08/29/93 17:53 --- * CmpQwk 1.13 #141 * If at first you don't succeed, fake it!! --- DB 1.39/004485 * Origin: The Diamond Bar BBS - 909-923-1031 - Ontario, CA (1:218/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK COOKE Number: 2052 To: DON RIEB Date: 08/30/93 6:57a Subj: Virtual Sex Disk Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Don Rieb Mumbled Something to Rick Cooke about Re: Virtual Sex Disk DR> I saw that one too, it was called Virtual Vallery and you had to go DR> out and find here then pick her up and bring her back to her place for DR> a romp. It had real good digitized speach where she would tant you to DR> do things to here. I am wandering the same thing though, how to get DR> ahold of the author or publisher on that one. Apparently it was developed on the MAC. Too bad! Maybe there will be a DOS version in the near future. It looked like a fun program to 'Play' around with. Rick ... "Yield to temptation, it may not pass your way again." - L. Long --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 * Origin: Fish House BBS - ZYXEL @19.2k baud - (601) 452-9196 (1:3604/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2053 To: DON BOSMAN Date: 08/29/93 9:47p Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BO>Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare -$1199. BO>Boris Osadciw DB> I always figure a newcomer should keep his mouth shut for a while before DB> posting. So after reading several hundred posts, I have a few questions. DB> What can you tell me, and others newbies, about the Pioneer bare drives DB> listed above? In a word, "Excellent." DB> Specifically, access time, seek time, transfer rates, can The 600, I am not sure, but I believe it is double speed (300KB/s), and 800ms or so access. 'Not great, but OK for a data drive. The 604X has a 612KB/s transfer and 300ms access. It far exceeds MPC-2, and works great under OS/2 with all functions intact. I have no problems at all with this drive and an Adaptec 1742 EISA HA. DB> they fit in a 5.25 in slot You're kidding, right? No, they don't fit in a 5.25" FH drive bay. Heck, the CARTRIDGES hardly fit in a 5.25" slot, let alone the drive, which must pull out each CD for access. They are external only, a little taller than a full height bay, half again as wide, and about 12" deep. Since the cartridge must have clearance for the CD to be extracted, and the maximum clearance width is about an inch wider than a 5-1/4" bay, I don't think an internal unit is possible. DB> what kind of interface card is required, SCSI, preferably SCSI-2 for the 604X, if you want MPC-2 and all the other goodies. DB> etc. How might the above compare to a couple or six Panasonic 562's on DB> a file server? Well, the six drives will definitely out-perform a single carousel drive, of course, when it comes to simultaneous accesses of several disks. However, single disk access under the Pioneer 604X blows away the access on any of the Panasonics, and one 604X is obviously a lot cheaper than six 562's. Additionally, the Pioneers only use one SCSI ID, thus allowing six other drives on a single HA, while the 562's will almost completely use up your HA, allowing at most a single hard drive, tape drive, or other SCSI device. It is at least theoretically possible to access a motion picture vide, and audio track, and a couple of data downloads to users with six individual drives. This would not be possible with the 604X, although multiple user downloads are. Les --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: GUI? Ptui!!! --- Last Chance Pt 4 (1:387/800.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2054 To: LISA HUTTER Date: 08/29/93 10:08p Subj: Re: My New cd-rom! help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LH> Hi All, LH> I've just recently installed a panisonic CD-Rom and I'm not sure how to LH> get the most out of it...I thought that I'd be able to play musical CD's LH> while working in Windows, etc...Of course this isn't the only reason I LH> made this purchase but I'd thought it would be a fun feature. LH> Can anyone give me some advice as to how to make the most of my new LH> "toy"? Dump Windows and get OS/2. Les --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: GUI? Ptui!!! --- Last Chance Pt 4 (1:387/800.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2055 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/29/93 10:13p Subj: Re: CD-ROM HELP! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BF> Load the MSCDEX buffers into ExTENded (XMS) memory - I BF> think that's the "/E" No, it is expanded (EMS or LIM) memory. BF> To make it a short story, the "loadhi" address range is BF> from the 640K DOS limit BF> up to the 1 Meg 20-bit Real Mode address limit. DOS does not have any 640K limit. The DOS limit and the Real mode limit are one and the same. If your system does not have a video card, and also no ROM BIOS other than the system BIOS, DOS will happily use over 900K of RAM. I have regularly done this with a number of file servers. Les --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: GUI? Ptui!!! --- Last Chance Pt 4 (1:387/800.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2056 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/29/93 10:20p Subj: Re: CD-ROM INTERFACES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BF> > The Always card is in no way superior to the BF> Adaptec line. In the BF> >first place, the IN-2000 only comes as an ISA card, no BF> MCA or EISA support. BF> For those of us that don't have MCA or EISA (or local bus, BF> for that matter), BF> the IN-2000 is an excellent choice, and FAR superior overall to any of the BF> Adaptec stuff (especially considering relative PRICING). I've not noticed any price premium for Adaptec. I got my 1742 for just a bit over $300. You suggest that the Always is superior overall. In what way? Please be specific, including benchmarks and specs. I have an example, however. My 1742 can support boot drives on SCSI ID 0-7, SIMULTANEOUSLY with non-boot devices on 0, 1, and 2. The 1742 can support 10MB/s continuous synchronous throughput, and supports SCSI disconnect on any number of devices. It is also SCSI-2. BF> I have USED both - and DUMPED all of my Adaptec stuff in BF> favor of the IN-2000. BF> >do believe it is an ISA busmaster BF> The IN-2000 does NOT do bus mastering I was apparently mistaken. My apologies. BF> which stuff is BF> overhyped on an ISA bus BF> anyway due to BUS throughput limitations under DMA. It is far from over-hyped. The bus throughput limitations are on MOTHERBOARD DMA, not busmastering. Busmastered DMA can proceed at the limit of the ISA bus' ability to function. More importantly, it proceeds without the intervention of the CPU, which can be off doing more appropriate things. Admittedly, under DOS this means generally waiting for the DMA transfer to complete, but many of us know better than to stick with DOS. BF> >using an ISA busmaster basically limits the useful system BF> RAM to 16 Megabytes. BF> This IS a problem with the Adaptec stuff, which ARE Bus Mastering cards. True. If the IN-2000 is not a busmatering card, then it will not suffer this limitation. Neither does the 1742, however. If one can afford >16MB, they *SHOULD* be able to afford EISA, MCA, or VLB. Les --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: GUI? Ptui!!! --- Last Chance Pt 4 (1:387/800.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SAM JONES Number: 2057 To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/30/93 11:40a Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No HP> board-echo have I seen any for under $20! HP> Sierra wants $25 plus shipping to upgrade if you have original disk #1 HP> or page of manual. HP> Now, 7th Guest for instanc.... Cheapest I've seen is $60! Why don't you The 7th Guest can be found at Sam's for $45 and Wal-Mart at $49. Definately worth the $$$ as is the KQ6 upgrade at EB for $25! I find these prices VERY fare, also if you know someone who has the floppy version of DOTT for only $25. Sam --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Node III BBS New Orleans LA (504) 347-4320 (1:396/27) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SAM JONES Number: 2058 To: RANDY MCANALLY Date: 08/30/93 11:46a Subj: S3 video chip Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RM> I have a Cirrus logic 1MB vesa local bus video card on my 486DX/33. Does RM> this video card have a S3 chip in it? The docs claim windows RM> acceleration. I ran a vga video test and the docs said a 10-12 frame per RM> second video redraw in dos is average. It measured 88.1 frames per I have a Diamond SSPro VL and it is also a Cirrus Logic (5426) based card. It does not contain the S3 chip and the card gets a 100% rating on the benchmark included with the 7th Guest. The game runs great! Sam --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Node III BBS New Orleans LA (504) 347-4320 (1:396/27) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM KALLIO Number: 2059 To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 9:24p Subj: NEC Multi-Spin Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello yall, I just got a NEC MultiSpin CD-ROM drive. And I don't think it's working right... for instance, when I goto my CD-ROM designation (E:) and I goto a subdirectory and do a DIR it goes back to the E: root directory. Or when I goto a directory and type in the name of a EXE or COM or BAT file it says file not found, and probably it is trying to read the root directory of the E: drive... Well if this makes any sense to ya and ya have any suggestions I would GREATLY appreciate a response... C-ya later Ætσmßσmß SysOp Fallout Shelter BBS --- SuperBBS 1.17-3 (Reg) * Origin: APPLEGATE; Neenah, Wi. USA (1:139/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MANESH RAMA Number: 2060 To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/29/93 11:00p Subj: Re: encyclopedia's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No hello i thank you for replying to my note but i wuz just wondering if you trade oh and is that the cd ver. cause if so i have night owls cd cause i just got robbed the other day on monday so at the moment i cant afford it but i can trade thanx i hope we can --- GOMail v1.2 [DEMO] 09-15-93 * Origin: Prime Connection - (909)274-9635 USR/DS (1:207/225) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROY FUNG Number: 2061 To: RANDY MCANALLY Date: 08/30/93 5:47a Subj: RE: SBPRO CD ROM DRIVES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I think what would be a hell of a lot easier is to just get a > Sound Galaxy NX Pro card which has SCSI interface and is > compatible with all SCSI CD-ROM drives regardless of the > speed. It's soundblaster, adlib, disney sound source, FM > music, and speech thing compatible so you have much more > compatability also. It runs about 170-180 dollars. What are some of the places that sell the Sound Galaxy NX Pro for the price you stated? Roy Fung ... Multitasking environment - Bathroom with magazines --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Software Heaven (813) 653-0029 Tampa, Fl (1:377/41) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HERMAN WIGGINS Number: 2062 To: ALL Date: 08/30/93 9:47a Subj: Cd roms Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! DO you have anymore of those drives for $99 if so email me here.... * WCE 1.10/2094 * Itsdifficulttobeverycreativewithonlyfiftysevencharacters --- GOMail v1.2 [DEMO] 09-27-93 * Origin: International Computers (813)823-4364 (1:3603/300) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG DAGGER Number: 2063 To: DERIK MINNICH Date: 08/29/93 2:20p Subj: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DM> planning on getting a Pioneer 6 disk machine :) Anyway, here is the DM> HOTTEST tip I can give you. You can get an Internal Toshiba 3401 DM> (THE fastest single drive out DM> on the market right now) for $399 bare bones from CD-ROM Direct. DM> Note this a bare bones drive, meaning you will have to get a SCSI DM> controller if you don't have one, which they also sell. This is the DM> lowest price I have found in the U.S., the ONLY catch is, you must DM> buy C.O.D. which runs like $29. I have a number around somewhere, Would a person who knows just about nothing about cd-rom's be able to install this. I'll try to get the ad and see! Thanks for your help! --- QuickBBS 2.80 (Gamma-2) * Origin: The Northeast File Bank * (717)876-0152 *USR-DS* (1:268/302) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG DAGGER Number: 2064 To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/29/93 2:21p Subj: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No how many bit is the matsumi? --- QuickBBS 2.80 (Gamma-2) * Origin: The Northeast File Bank * (717)876-0152 *USR-DS* (1:268/302) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DANNY BANISTER Number: 2065 To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/25/93 11:51p Subj: New Additions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ N E W A D D I T I O N S ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >LAN MASTER - 100mgs - 2255 files - Utilities, Programs, Text, & More! > Files.BBS Structure - PRICE - $29. Boris, can you give some details about what's on this CD? * UniQWK v2.0 * The Windows Mail Reader --- WM v3.01/93-0807 * Origin: The Zeitgeist Bulletin Board +1 214 596-3720 (1:124/5148.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DANNY BANISTER Number: 2066 To: JOHN ROBERTSON Date: 08/26/93 12:02a Subj: Speedcache & Disc Caddi Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >EH> noticed that various stores can rip you off with the >EH> price of caddies. I went to a local computer show and >EH> they had caddies for $4-4.50 each, but when I went >didn't read the version # correctly. Also with respect to your comment >on the prices of caddies you should be aware that there are copies of >the licensed caddies out there... easily recognized by several facets 1) >The clear lid should have no ripples on the surface, & 2) The printing >on the back of the CD caddies should be crisp and sharp. I don't know >where the copies are coming from but there are only two licensed plants >in the world for making these, one is in Japan, and the other in the >USA. The Japanese version uses a stainless steel shutter and the USA >version is aluminum. The copies will jam in your cd player or they will >cause your spin motor to suffer from excessive drag. The better cd >players such as SONY or TOSHIBA will spit these out as they slow >down the motor from being uneven and causing the coupler to drag, That's odd. Both types I bought (USA-made and Japanese-made) have stainless steel shutters. * UniQWK v2.0 * The Solution for Multilingual Messages --- WM v3.01/93-0807 * Origin: The Zeitgeist Bulletin Board +1 214 596-3720 (1:124/5148.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID CHILDRESS Number: 2067 To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 8:29a Subj: CD-Kit Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi All! I was wonderiing if anyone has had experiance with a CD-ROM bundle called "Multimedia CD16"? It comes with an external CD player, a NEC-25BJ (access time 650 ms, transfer rate 150Kb sec.), a 16 bit sound board, two speakers, and 5 CD's. Cost around $400.00 What do you all think about the access time? I'm not too familiar with CD drives, but I understand that this is quite slow. What effect would that have on animation/video reproduction? This would be our 1st CD setup, does anyone have a better choice? Keeping in mind a family budget? :-) $500.00 give or take, for the whole deal. We would like to have some sort of a bundle deal and something that will last a while. Any suggestions? (opening can of worms <g>) Thanks in advance, -=Dave=- (CD neophyte) ... OFFLINE 1.50 "... [tap..tap].. is this thing ON??" --- Maximus 2.00 * Origin: CSPI-TWO (1:371/1302) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER SMITH Number: 2068 To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/30/93 6:38a Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE> You're a dealer aren't you Poe?? Its probably cheaper for you to get RE> caddies than it is for the average user.... Most users I know of with RE> caddy type drives can only afford one caddy... and they are amazed RE> and impressed by the Panasonic.... Caddies are only about $5 each. Surely, that's not much to protect a CDROM that can cost much more. -- Roger --- GoldED 2.30 * Origin: RSBBS/Oratorio(tm) -Ft. Walton Beach, FL- 904-863-8408 (1:366/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NED MCWILLIAMS Number: 2069 To: PEYTON NORMAN Date: 08/29/93 4:20p Subj: Your CD service Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No hey Peyton give me a call about my offer...434-3888 it will help us both... I will also be a good customer in teh CD field.. * SPITFIRE v3.3 --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: Terrapin Station BBS * (904)939-8027 * USR DS * (1:366/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VINCENT CAPALBO Number: 2070 To: ALL Date: 08/30/93 3:51a Subj: BBS CDROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Do all CDROMS constantly spin when a disk is inside. If so a BBS would have it spinning 24 hours. I know Tandy makes one that doesn't spin when a disk is in it till it needs it but that one is 900 m.s. I guess it would be ok for a BBS but not most other CD software. Any opinions ? ... A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- WM v3.01/92-0695 * Origin: The Butterfly BBS/N1*201-523-1162*HST/DS 16.8k (1:107/512.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOU PETRALIA Number: 2071 To: CHARLES HART Date: 08/27/93 7:34p Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Charles Hart to Michael Hajovsky <=- CH> But, that's you total and only recourse - the moderator "owns" the CH> Echo and does exactly what he want when he wants - and if he fails to CH> please the bulk of the members they will stop comming[[[[[[[.[D CH> [Dcoming, so I suspect the good moderator of this Echo is responding to CH> member comments. -!- FreeMail 1.09 This is probily why the number of messages in this echo has decreased since the new policy started ... A police state is great, so long as you're the police. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: MicroFone 14 Gigs 16 Lines V.32b 908-494-8666 (1:107/331) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2072 To: BOB SMITH Date: 08/25/93 12:00p Subj: COREL 3.0 IN MONTREAL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BS>Do you work with it? If so tell me... How would I make some business cards? BS>A friend has Microsoft Publisher and says he does cards with it.. Which one I recently made (very successfully) a batch of business cards using cover stock (from the local student bookstore), my LaserJet 4L printer, and Microsoft Word for Windows. The TrueType fonts I used came from the Too Many Typefonts CD-ROM. You don't really need Corel. * SLMR 2.1 * --- WM v2.07/92-0654 * Origin: CAD Connection - Montesson, FR 33 (1) 39-52-98-54 (2:320/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2073 To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 08/25/93 12:09p Subj: MANPOWER - NEW GAY CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JS>oh boy, that's excellent <G> "fags on disc" It may not be your "thing", but hey, why shouldn't it be available to those who might be interested? A little bit of tolerance, please, for people whose interests might be different than your own. * SLMR 2.1 * --- WM v2.07/92-0654 * Origin: CAD Connection - Montesson, FR 33 (1) 39-52-98-54 (2:320/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 2074 To: BOB JENKINS Date: 08/25/93 12:19p Subj: Mitsumi Question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BJ> Being financially challenged, yet feverishly lusting over a CD-ROM to ca BJ>my own, I have noticed the name "Mitsumi" (sp?). A few questions: BJ> 1)Will this drive function with my SB 2.0 ? Yes. But it hooks up to the SB card only at the audio level, the drive is controlled by its own seperate interface card. BJ> 2)How much will it put me out (I'm up here in the Great White North, near BJ>Ottawa) ? The drive goes for less than US$200, depending on where you buy it. * SLMR 2.1 * --- WM v2.07/92-0654 * Origin: CAD Connection - Montesson, FR 33 (1) 39-52-98-54 (2:320/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TAPANI TUOMINEN Number: 2075 To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 08/27/93 8:15a Subj: Cover cd 'pc mag' Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GP>PD> GC> The UK August edition of PC MAGAZINE, carries a CD on the cov GP>It GP>PD> GC> claims to contain a large number of the excellent utilities GP>PD> GC> commissioned by the magazine, amongst other things. GP> GP>Odd.... I bought a copy of the issue in question in Greece, and mine GP>came with (one, two?) floppy diskette (although the cover said there GP>supposed to be a CD-ROM). Did I get cheated? I don't know but I can reveal that the CD in question is really not worth of anything. Only useful thing is few included TT and Type 1 fonts. All the PC-Magazine utilities included are ages old (newer versions do exist!) and for example there is version 93 (I think) of McAfees Scan when the current version is 107! All the other stuff are demos or working models of mostly uninteresting software. The CD also has an awkward installation procedure asking serial numbers VISA-accounts and all the other completely unnecessary stuff. Removing the files it freely installs all over your hard-drive is a real drag afterwards and it is buggy; I managed to get few GFP-errors with its' menu-program before I removed the crap from my HD. If you want I will gladly sent my copy to you. Tapani Tuominen --- * CmpQwk #UNREG* UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: Li'LL BBS - Paris France - (33-1) 43.07.40.97 (2:320/7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WOOD Number: 2076 To: DOUG SCHWANTES Date: 08/30/93 10:36a Subj: CD-ROM disk cache Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Doug Schwantes wrote in a message to All: DS> Does anyone out there know of a good disk cache for a DS> CD-ROM? Norton Speedcache 4.0+ will do the job nicely for you. Otherwise you could always buy OS/2 2.1 GA, it has built in CDROM drive caching of course..<g>. Cheers... Chris - Team OS/2 - Internet: cwood@hpb.hwc.ca --- timEd/2-B9 * Origin: Piece of Mind BBS [16.8K HST/V.32B] 1-613-523-6844 (1:163/512) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CORKY CORCORAN Number: 2077 To: DAVID EAGEN Date: 08/30/93 10:22a Subj: Re: 7th guest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoted David Eagen to All about 7th guest on 08-10-93 15:12 <=- DE> Is there a fix out for T7G that supports S3 video boards yet? DE> Where can I get it? Dave DE> * KWQ/2 1.2a * I didn't vote for Clinton or her idiot husband! DE> ............................................................ DE> .................. HI'YA! I'm from Ottawa, Canada. I had to download a fix for T7G because it caused sound buffer failures with my SBPRO. You can download fixes from the Virgin Games BBS. I don't know the number, but that's where I got my fix. TTYL! Signed, Virtual Humanity ... A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.10 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Tumbler's Tavern BBS, (613) 825-9302 (1:163/315) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CORKY CORCORAN Number: 2078 To: ALL Date: 08/30/93 10:42a Subj: Mitsumi drive. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello all! I am having a problem with my Mitsumi CRMC drive and Jones in the Fast Lane. Whenever I reach a certain point in the game, my drive sits with the busy lgith blinking and doesn't do anything. Sierra said it was because their DMA driver was incompatible with ONLY Mitsumi drives. Is there some way to rectify this problem? Also, is there a way to hook my drive to my SBPRO, whenever I do, the driver won't recognize it. Thanks people! TTYL! Signed, Virtual Humanity ... "I say we nuke the site from Orbit, it's the only way to be sure" ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.10 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Tumbler's Tavern BBS, (613) 825-9302 (1:163/315) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROB MCINTYRE Number: 2079 To: MICHAEL TURNER-CRAIG Date: 08/30/93 12:13p Subj: CD LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Well, unfortunally it isn't. Lucasfilm should do it though. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: *** Electronic Encounters - Ottawa Ontario, Canada *** (1:163/133) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2080 To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 8:47p Subj: CD-ROMS: A SAMPLING Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00 5-Star Premium Windows........27.00 Microsoft Golf MPC (New!).....58.00 7th Guest.....................45.00 Microsoft Musical Instruments.57.00 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00 Microsoft Works MPC...........49.00 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00 Middle East Diary.............35.00 American Business Phonebk 93..39.00 Monarch Notes.................59.00 Aminet Amiga (New!)...........15.00 Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...38.50 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE) VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5 --- * SLMR 2.1a * I still miss my ex-wife, but my aim is getting better. --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 2081 To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 08/29/93 8:48p Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 SPECIALS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DC> MS> ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS! IT'S HERE! IT'S SHIPPING! IT'S HOT! DC> MS> AND IT'S 680+MB OF PURE 93 SHAREWARE! DC>You make it sound like it's brand spanking new. It has been shipping for qui DC>some time now <g d & r>. Do you have anything newer? <g d & r> .\\ike --- * SLMR 2.1a * Odo, is there any more jello in the fridge? Odo? Odo?? --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOBBY POSEY Number: 2082 To: DEVIN WOOD Date: 08/30/93 6:59a Subj: NEC CDR-84 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I've been considering this drive. I have a concern though. I'm a > quadriplegic and can't move my fingers. I need a drive with a caddy so > I don't ruin my CDs. I'm trying to find out about the doors. Needing > to use both hands to insert ther disk, I won't be able to hold a door > open while I do it. How are the doors set up? I would fully reccomend the NEC drive and as far as the door is concerned it is just like putting in a floppy.. > It's hard for me to get out to see for myself. Would anyone recommend > another drive with similar features that they consider superior? > Thanks, > Devin I have got 2 NEC drives at the present time and thinking about getting 2 more for the BBS.. Bobby --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: The Mule Barn BBS (I'm Stubbern allright) 756-7565 (1:388/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MELO Number: 2083 To: MARTIN ROODENBURG Date: 08/29/93 11:25a Subj: Re: MITSUMI CD-ROM DRIVES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Once upon a time Martin Roodenburg asked about using a Mitsumi CD rom with a sound card. Martin, as several other posts here mentioned, you can indeed run the audio connector from the Mitsumi to a sound card. However, there is also another option. There are at least two brands of sound cards that will also directly drive the CD rom. I am using a card from Aztec which is SoundBlaster and ADLIB compatible. They have models that support the Mitsumi and one that is for a Panasonic CD ROM. I think that the ATI card will also support the Mitsumi but I'm not sure of that. Using one of these cards for the interface as well as the sound card will save you one slot. * SLMR 2.1a * Hello, I am part number │║▐║│║│█│║▌│║▌││ --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: Del_Ches_Systems_BBS - Exton,PA 215-363-6625 Since 1983 (1:273/323) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EDWARD FOSTER Number: 2084 To: LISA HUTTER Date: 08/29/93 6:46a Subj: My New cd-rom! help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Lisa, Wednesday August 25 1993 21:29, Lisa Hutter wrote to All: LH> Hi All, LH> I've just recently installed a panisonic CD-Rom and I'm not sure how to LH> get the most out of it...I thought that I'd be able to play musical CD's LH> while working in Windows, etc...Of course this isn't the only reason I LH> made this purchase but I'd thought it would be a fun feature. Yes, it is nice feature and yes you can listen to music while working within Windows v3.1..v3.1 has a icon in the "Control Panel" called drivers for Midi, Sound & Recording..I hope you recieved Windows drivers for your new toy, as they will not show up if you didn't, but I'm sure you did..Just read your manual and see if you missed something pertaining to Windows Installation Procedures... All the above is if you have a sound card also...You forgot to mention if you have one...If you don't, GET ONE!! I've been using the PAS16 for over a year now, and the software upgrade I recently acquired was a big boost to the whole concept of MultiMedia. Edward Foster, " The Oasis BBs " *** GoldED 2.41+, Don't read mail without it! *** --- GoldED 2.41+ (Reg#1129) "Not tonight dear,I have a Modem" * Origin: "The Oasis BBs/315.947.5916/USR/HST DS 16800 w/ASL" (1:2608/40) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 2085 To: BRENT LYNCH Date: 08/29/93 8:01p Subj: Re: Cd-rom Games Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey Brent, I don't think I am interested in any of those games, since I got a demo for the Lord oft the Rings and I found out that I hate those games, anyway I have seen a lot of Day of the Tentacle, anyway I wanna buy some kind of simulation, car, plane or whatever so that I don't spend 50 bucks and then in a couple weeks I beat the game and the fun is lost, so if you find any good simulations for the CD-ROM or regular please write to me, hey have you see World Circuit, if you have how is it, how big is it and what does it feel like? C-ya Ashwin --- GEcho 1.00/beta+ * Origin: Computer Castle Multi-Line, (603)382-3471 (1:324/127) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 2086 To: GARY JOHNSON Date: 08/29/93 8:02p Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey Gary, I am sorry about that but would you please tell me what I wrote to you about since I do not really remember writing a message to you? C-ya Ashwin --- GEcho 1.00/beta+ * Origin: Computer Castle Multi-Line, (603)382-3471 (1:324/127) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN ELFERT Number: 2087 To: MICHAEL KONOR Date: 08/29/93 11:52p Subj: Re: scsi cdrom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Give me a call. Yes, I'm using a 690meg cdrom online now. Ok, I used to have one and it would not handle a 650 meg CD-ROM. I'll give you a call next week. Brian --- WM v3.01/91-0224 * Origin: The City Lights <612-633-1366> <6 LINES> <16.8 D/S> (1:282/108.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2088 To: DON BOSMAN Date: 08/30/93 2:10a Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BO>>Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare -$1199. BO>>Boris Osadciw >> I always figure a newcomer should keep his mouth shut for a >> while before posting. So after reading several hundred posts, >> I have a few questions. The only way to learn about a product is to ask questions, even if they do sound dumb, we all started at the same point at one time or another. >> What can you tell me, and others newbies, about the Pioneer >> bare drives listed above? Specifically, access time, seek >> time, transfer rates, can they fit in a 5.25 in slot, what >> kind of interface card is required, etc. How might the above >> compare to a couple or six Panasonic 562's on a file server? I'd like to list everything about the systems, but that would mean a very long message and some of the people here would get very upset over it. So, in short, the Pioneer is a 6 disk changer. One unit offers a 600ms access time with 150kps transfer rate. The other offers 300ms access time with 600kps transfer rate and is Kodak and MPC approved. Niether of the uunits will fit in a 5.25 slot as they are external and offer 6 changers in one case and as to comparing them with the new Panasonic, well....depending on what you want to do and how you want to do it will set the tone as to wheather they can or can not compare. If you would like more info on the Pioneer or anyother CDROM changer, please feel free to give us a call anytime at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist you further as we sell every major brand system out there as well as some no names. Hope this helps... Boris Osadciw ... Protected Mode Xpress! It's hot! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2089 To: ART MARKO Date: 08/30/93 2:10a Subj: Re: RED HOT SPECIALS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BO>>$$$$$$$ R E D H O T C D' S A T R E D H O T P R I C E S $$$$$$$ >> MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE PRICE - $25.00ec >> The amateur models...is that an "R" or an X-title. I haven't >> seen that one described anywhere yet. Any info... >> BTW...your package came no problems...but the Post Office >> didn't get the proof of del'y card signed. All's well that end >> well though... Do you have NixPix 4?...$$?? Glad to hear it ! As far as the Amature models, please drop us a not via the node/net number below or call us direct as we can no longer discuss adult material here. You can reach us at 216-225-3263 anytime.... Boris Osadciw ... What Bug! I left behind the roaches in New York! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2090 To: DON BOSMAN Date: 08/30/93 2:10a Subj: Re: Aust. Phone Disc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BF>>and the one that sells for about $50.00 (This one is called BF>>Australian Phone Disk). BF>>The one that sells for $50 contains the entire Yellow and BF>>White Pages for every state in Australia. BF>>Why is there such a HUGE price difference between that disk BF>>and the $1500.00 one ?????? >> I'm not familiar with the Australian version, but the U.S.A. >> difference is accuracy. >> ProPhone 93 for instance is $100 US and not one listing I >> checked is fully accurate. My residential phone is four >> years out of date, and my business, which has been in the >> yellow pages for about six years is not listed. If you're paying $100. for ProPhone 93, then you'd better look for another dealer as we sell the same copy for only $25. >> For about $900. US one can buy a more up to date disc and sign >> up for the update service. All extra of course. Here again, if your paying $900. then I suggest you look elsewhere as we sell the most up to date copies for only $89. Interested, please call us anytime and we'll be glad to assist you further at 216-225-3263. Boris Osadciw ... Happy as a Pig in Mud! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2091 To: JUAN-PEDRO MINON Date: 08/30/93 2:10a Subj: Re: CD-ROM WRITER Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Helo, all. >> I am looking for a CD-ROM writer (Kodak PCD Writer 200 >> or Philips CDD 521/10). >> Please reply to me with price, capatibilites, software >> and specifications. We have a Philips unit, model number CDD521WR. It comes complete with software, SCSI interface card, cable manual. It's DOS and Windows compatiable and has a 300kps tarnsfer rate. The complete package price is $6300., so if your interested, please feel free to reach us via the node/net number below or via FAX at 216-225-6759 or voice direct at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to assist you further. Boris Osadciw ... Silver Xpress!...... Don't Read Mail Without it! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2092 To: SETH KLINE Date: 08/30/93 2:10a Subj: Re: CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Does anyone have a CD-ROM for sale? I would like it cheap but >> it doesn't matter. The Mitsumi is about the lowest priced cd rom you'll find out that that offer you the most for the money. If you need further assistance, please feel free to call us anytime at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist you further. Boris Osadciw ... Silver Xpress!...... Don't Read Mail Without it! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2093 To: GEOFF MOEHLE Date: 08/30/93 2:10a Subj: Re: panasonic Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Hello!!!!!!! I was thinking about buying a double speed >> CD-ROM from panasonic...however I was wondering about the 350 >> milisecond access time...is that REAL slow?????? Would that >> cause problems???/ The transfer rate is a 300mb/second...and I >> was wondering on how that might be!!!!!!!! Anyone who can tell >> me anything about my questions would be greatfully >> helpful!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks!!!! Geoff Moehle! The Panasonic unit will do just fine for most applications, even a BBS system. The main point about the system is it's multi-spin feature that enables the unit to transfer data at a higher rate. Therefore allowing the system to offer a much smoother display than one without this feature. If your interested, we do have these unit's in stock now and their priced at $285. complete with interface, drivers and manual. You can reach us at 216-225-3263 anytime if you have anyother questions or would like to purchase one. Boris Osadciw ... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2094 To: ALL Date: 08/30/93 2:10a Subj: NEW CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No )))))))))))))) NEW SHAREWARE CD - SHAREWARE EXPLORER ((((((((((((((((( 4 discs w/over 26,000 files 3 of which are completely DOS based files 4th disc is completely Windows 3.0/3.1 files w/over 7000 - BBS Ready Mostly 1992/1993 files - Less than 1% duplication between the 4 cd's Price - $55.00 Call us at 800-243-0517 and ORDER YOUR COPY TODAY !! Or call us at 216-225-3263 anytime for additional information on this and 500+ other CDROM titles and CDROM systems. Boris Osadciw ... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2095 To: ALL Date: 08/30/93 2:10a Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S *************** Chinon Int 340ms Kit - $359.00 Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit - $359.00 Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00 Texel Int Complete Kit - $469.00 Texel Ext Complete - $569.00 Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $449.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00 Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00 Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare -$1199. Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50. ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759 Boris Osadciw ... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN C Number: 2096 To: DAVID NGHIEM Date: 08/29/93 8:43p Subj: Re: pioneer 600] Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DN> I plan on buying a pioneer 600 changer for use for my BBS. But I am DN> wondering that if I had six cd's on the drive at once, would they show DN> up as 6 drives? Or do I have to alternate the cd's constantly? I hope DN> this is a software automated process. I would hate to buy six cd's, put DN> them on the system only to find out that I have to manually change a cd DN> when a user wants to look at another one. If anyone can help in using DN> the pioneer for the BBS, thanks!!!! I'm not running one, but I have read about them in Jerry Pournelle's User Column in BYTE, and elsewhere. Each CD is it's own Drive. The Pioneer drive switches the disks automatically. If you have seen a Pioneer 6 disc Cd-audio player(we have one), you will know how it works. The Pioneer is kind of intelligent at how it switches...It only does it as needed..So you can log on to a drive, and it won't switch..Not until you actually have to read from the drive. B Curnow Criminal groups infiltrating pot farms. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: ON-LINE BBS (209)736-0385 (1:208/504) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT POWELL Number: 2097 To: TOM ARRUDA Date: 08/30/93 7:25p Subj: NEED NUMBER Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TA>I have recently purchased a CR-562B drive from MPS. I am running from TA>Sound Blaster 16 card. I have had nothing but problems with the drive TA>It constantly causes "General Protection faults" when run in Windows. TA>have the "Seventh Guest" and "Day of the Tentacle" that run under dos TA>both lock up and halt the entire system. I am using a 486dx33 with 8m TA>of ram ,DOS 6.0, MSCDEX 2.2,Qemm7.0, Norton SpeedCache 4.0. I need th TA>number for Creative Labs BBS. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. I have a SB 16 ASP with a CR-562B drive connected to it and have no problems. I'm using DOS 6, MSCDEX 2.2, QEMM 7.01 on a 486DX266 with 32M RAM and every thing runs beautifully. I also don't have any problems with the Seventh Guest. I have used both the older and new SB drivers without prblems. The only thing I have ran across is that when I was running my bus at 16 megahertz, the SB DMA transfers failed. I had to slow the bus back down to 11 MH and everything works fine. The number for Creative Labs BBS is (405)742-6660. --- ■ CmpQwk #UNREG■ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- FidoPCB v1.3 [NR] * Origin: <*> Century City <*> -- (803)469-7859 (1:3647/4) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT POWELL Number: 2098 To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 08/30/93 7:25p Subj: CD-ROM HELP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GP>Yes, and THERE, RIGHT THERE, is the big GOTCHA. I wouldn't even GP>consider buying that drive, no matter how attractive it is for any ot GP>reason, if I am arbitrarily and forever chained to a SoundBlaster Pro GP>16 sound card in order to be able to use the CD-ROM drive. Why? Wel GP>let's say that in 12 months somebody (Gravis, or somebody else) GP>introduces a hot new sound card that makes everything else obsolete GP>overnight. In your case, you're shafted, 'cuz you can't get rid of y GP>now-obsolete SoundBlaster card without losing your CD-ROM drive too. I had both the Mitsumi and a Panasonic. Although the access times are simular, the difference between a single speed Mitsumi and a double speed Panasonic is tremendous. As locking you to a sound blaster, you could by an optional 20 dollar controller to use the Panasonic with another brand of sound card. You might also note that other sound card manufactures have started supporting Sony and Panasonic drives in addition to the Mitsumi such as Sound Galaxy. Bottom line is that the arguement doesn't make sense. The Panasonic offers allot of bang for the buck and is worthy of consideration. --- ■ CmpQwk #UNREG■ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- FidoPCB v1.3 [NR] * Origin: <*> Century City <*> -- (803)469-7859 (1:3647/4) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SYLV JUMAGA Number: 2099 To: LEN GLADSTONE Date: 08/29/93 9:48p Subj: Canadian cdrom dealers?? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LG>Sylv, try CD-Rom Wholesalers of Canada, 6 Armstrong Bay, LG>Regina Sask. S4N 4G7 Ph (306) 789-4654 voice. Contact Vince LG>&/or Michellea Sorensen. Thank you very much for the information! I will get a hold of them promptly! Thanks again, Sylv ___ X DeLuxe2/386 1.25 #6475 X What's this loose cable doing #ked+_8/NO CARRIER --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Just Another BBS,Souris,MB,[204]483-2552 (1:348/300) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED FEINS Number: 2100 To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 3:25p Subj: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have EIGHT CD-CADDIES for sale. $25.00 - shipping INCLUDED in USA (went "caddy-less") --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: C.F.O.N.J. TBBS 2.2M - All HST 16.8/V.32B 908-486-2956 (1:107/932) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DONALD ZABAWA Number: 2101 To: RANDY RASA Date: 08/29/93 8:41p Subj: Shareware for CD's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of 25 Aug 93 19:36:11, Randy Rasa wrote: RR> To: All Shareware CDROM Publishers RR> RR> If you are interested in receiving shareware direct from the author, RR> please post an address where you'd like a disk to be sent, or a BBS RR> phone number where uploads can be posted. RR> RR> Randy Rasa Please send to Buffaloe Village BBS, phone 215-677-9721 Phila.Pa. --- FIDOdoor+ 3.2.7 [JetMail 0.91beta] * Origin: Dateline: Atari ~ New York, USA [1-718-833-0828] (1:2603/110.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB JACKSON Number: 2102 To: ALL Date: 08/30/93 8:44p Subj: Review: Southern Beauties Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ADDENDUM #2 Mea culpa! I erroneously referred to the 24-bit color files on Southern Beauties as "Targa" files. In fact, they are "Tagged image format files" or "TIFF" for short...or just .TIF in the file name. Sorry for any confusion I may have caused; I'll try to be more careful in the future. ... BEWARE - Tagline Thief in this echo --- Blue Wave/RA v2.10 * Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 | (1:106/30.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VICTOR HEALEY Number: 2103 To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 08/29/93 6:42a Subj: Re: SHAREWARE AND CDS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Carlos Benitz to Brice Fleckenstein <=- CB> 20 Aug 93 13:27, Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Carlos Benitz: >> FF> I think it will only be a matter of time before ""CD of the month" >> FF> clubs start and everybody will get a nice new CD in the mailbox each >> FF> month. >> Were there "Disk of the mnth" clubs 10 years ago? CB> While the readers of this echo may almost all have cdrom drives, by no CB> means do most computers. People without computers have no need for a CB> cdrom drive. Unlike audio cd's which could attach to almost any CB> stereo, cdroms apply to a smaller market right now. I understand that Atari or Commodore is issuing a new game system that uses a CD ROM drive that will allow access to files stored for PC use on a CDROM. Supposed to available this fall. Anyone else remeber seeing this announcement? ... Cobb County, Ga., Where we use legal shotguns to get a few squirrels. --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Atlanta's OS/2 Users Group BBS/FAX - 404-471-1549 (1:133/308) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: YVES DESJARDINS Number: 2104 To: DEVIN WOOD Date: 08/30/93 7:09a Subj: NEC CDR-84 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Devin! 29 Aug 93 12:51, Devin Wood wrote to Yves Desjardins: DW> I thought by the way it looked it was spring loaded. I had hoped that DW> once open it would stay open by itself. I'm not so sure I could handle DW> it. I really have to try to get a look at one. Don't know if I can. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I would be more than please to show it to you, IF you can come over to my place. :) Yves --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: Excalibur - Regina, Sk. (306)949-8605 (1:140/23.3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: YVES DESJARDINS Number: 2105 To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 08/30/93 5:50p Subj: Benchmark test for CDROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Janusz! 28 Aug 93 21:42, Janusz Surowka wrote to Yves Desjardins: JS> If you find one, tell me. I found one call CDBENCH from MegaDemo CD. It seems to work not too bad. I was also looking for one called CDSPEED, that some people on the echo was talking about, however I didn't hear from anyone just of yet..... Yves --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: Excalibur - Regina, Sk. (306)949-8605 (1:140/23.3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ARNIE HAYDU Number: 2106 To: RAND Date: 08/29/93 1:56p Subj: Comment from Arnie Haydu Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Welcome back from Vacation! --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: CompuTrek Information Services Inc (203) 775-6198 (1:141/701) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON BOSMAN Number: 2107 To: ROB LEVINE Date: 08/29/93 6:35p Subj: Phone Directory CD's for Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RL>Need a residential phone directory CD that will run on a RL>MAC. Know of any? ProPhone does not currently come in a RL>MAC format. Even if ProPhone does come out with a MAC version, I recommend avoiding it unless they drastically improve their accuracy. I have "ProPhone 93" and Every listing I have checked is inaccurate in at least one area. My residential number is 4 years out of date, my business which has been in the yellow pages for several years is not listed. One set of store franchises (I wanted to mail to) has over 130 stores, more than 70 of these stores have been in business for over two years, but ProPhone 93 lists only 26. It gets worse. The company's sales manager(?) Charles McDermitt, maintains that the product is intended to be an aid to those who can't afford the big bucks for an updated service. I maintain that one can't afford to purchase his product as it is so out of date as to be a waste of time and resources. ___ X OLX 2.2 X Unable to locate Cola -- Operator Halted! --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Lighthouse CBCS HST/V.32, 150+ echos, 517-321-0788 (1:159/950) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON BOSMAN Number: 2108 To: ALL Date: 08/29/93 6:43p Subj: 562x+SB16+coftware $399 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No If they are in your area you might want to check out Software Etc. They have a Panasonic upgrade kit for $399. U.S. It includes the 562 drive, a Sound Blaster 16 board, and 4 CD's. The CD's are: ROM Material SelectWare Classic Collection F-14 Tomcat F-19 Stealth Fighter JetFighter I Knights of the Sky Software JukeBox LINKS The Challenge of Golf FACES ... TRIS III Berenstain Bears Fun With Colors CD Master ___ X OLX 2.2 X Press Ctrl,Alt,Del for new CAD program. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Lighthouse CBCS HST/V.32, 150+ echos, 517-321-0788 (1:159/950) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RON WILKEY Number: 2109 To: ATZ Date: 08/30/93 9:06p Subj: ATZ Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ? ATZ ATZ ltàc╟8%▌ww~s╗v╧1%▌vûΘ6vw≈vIwn¢áwτ│jA∙µÜ╩º3åSwwwτ7ε└∞│5v╗I≈╘°£'µ■╓╨Uü╡Wp▓≈÷M CFPwwwwwv[_W)wug║4╖╓»a>^┐≥⌡ⁿεeôä --- GEcho 1.01/gamma+ * Origin: THE MCD BBS ! 1200/2400/9600/14400 DS HST ! 24 HRS.. (1:291/12) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HAWORTH Number: 2110 To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/29/93 9:46p Subj: New Roland Compat Sound C Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Henry. It's not the turtle beach card which from memory isn't compatible with anything and isn't supported by much either. No this card is by some previously unknown company who I think have been making SB clones for a while primarily for the Asian and US markets. I can't remeber the name of the card but it had a picture of a paint tube on the outside of the box and was at the PowerSource stand at the Melbourne PC show. I don't know whether PowerSource is the sole distributor but if they are they have offices in Sydney and Melbourne. I'd be interested if the $600 price tag was just a show special or the normal price. Its certainly cheap for a Roland SCC-1 card even without all the extra compatiblity with MS Sound System and the SB. The support for both types of CD-ROM drives is good because you can go for the cheapest at the time. Sorry can't be of much more assistance. It will be interesting to see what price sound blaster sell this card for next year when they licence it. --- Ezycom V1.02 * Origin: CC's with No File Ratios 02-899-7148 (Up to 14K4) (3:713/806) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2111 To: MIKE AVILA Date: 08/29/93 8:49p Subj: 16 bit cards Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Mike! On 08-21-93 Mike Avila wrote to Rowan Evans... MA> *** Quoting Rowan Evans to Joel Dumas dated 08-18-93 *** MA> > MA> > Standard SCSI-1, with a S.L.O.W. 680Kbps max transfer rate! MA> MA> The PAStudio16 is NOT SCSI-1, it IS SCSI-2. The Psectrun is SCSI-1. Still has the same cruddy 680 or 690 Kbps max transfer rate though! MA> > A dealer tried to interest me in a PAS 16/Texel... They wanted over MA> > $1300.00 for the combo and, (they also sold the SB kit!) when SHOWN MA> MA> WOW! That is an outragous price. I got the Texel drive and the MA> PAStudio16 at different times but from the same place and total cost MA> including shipping was under $750 (don't remember EXACT MA> amount). Matter of a fact I believe it was just under $725. Oops! I should have put $A in front of the $ 1,300.00! $US725.00 / .6700 (or so) exchange rate means that is over $A1,000.00 (without customs duty, shipping & sales tax!).... MA> I am very happy with the combination. I like the Texel MA> drive but I LOVE the PAStudio16 very much. I'd have loved to keep the PAS 16 I had.... but it doesn't, and will never, support the Panasonic CD-ROM... It had to go.... o /U\ ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2112 To: MARCUS LEE Date: 08/29/93 8:52p Subj: ATI + 7th Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Marcus! On 08-23-93 Marcus Lee wrote to Rowan Evans... ML> I was thinking of purchasing an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro ML> 2mb/EISA... and I noticed you said you had probs playing ML> 7th Guest and only 86% optimal on the video... ML> ML> Are the probs related to the ATI card? No, turned out to be an older version of the CD-ROM driver! ML> And 86%.... I thought it would have to be 100% being such a great ML> card... Do you run the vesa drivers that came on the CDROM? Well, I'd have expected it too.. I just did a standard install... The ATI GUPro I have is the ISA version - *6% is still plenty fast enough for all the graphics in T7G! ML> PS: How much do you think is a good price for the ATI, I've ML> got around $780 quoted... That's about the market..... ML> Oh, and do you know ANY video cards that get 100%? Yep! The local bus SVGA on another machine I have rated 100%! Cheers! o /U\ ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2113 To: MICHAEL GEGGUS Date: 08/29/93 8:57p Subj: Re: BEGINING... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Michael! On 08-23-93 Michael Geggus wrote to Rowan Evans... MG> MG> CD ROM I/F and audio connector. MegaDemo Benched it at 250ms MG> MG> access and 330Kbps. MG> RE> MG> RE> That's interesting... it only spex at 300Kbps and 450ms in MG> RE> double-speed mode! MG> MG> Different Machines/environments/benchmarks/references....My Mitsumi MG> book indicated a 350ms access and MegaDemos CDbench said it was 400ms MG> and 150kBps.....The real key was during operations, I noticed the MG> difference straight away. Yeah, It comes across as a fast drive... the spex I quoted were Panasonic's own spex... Not what mine benchmarked to.... MG> RE> What command line parameters did you use for CDMKE41.SYS.... I MG> RE> couldn't get it to work so I changed to SBCD.SYS (and it works MG> RE> fine!)..... MG> MG> This is it....... MG> devicehigh /L:2,13440 =C:\CDMKE41.SYS /D:MVCD001 /R /SBP:220 /N:1 /A: MG> MG> I only added the /A: from the read.me text on the driver disk, it's MG> not really necessary it should default to doublespeed. I've tried it MG> high and low, and both run great with same spex. Thanx! I got no doco for CDMKE41.SYS and it had a parameter /P:300 for the 8-bit interface. When connected to the SB16 ASP it didn't take any notice of /P:220! Cheers! o /U\ PS The Mitsumi?? Find someone that wants a real cheap CD-ROM! <g> ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2114 To: TONY STOTT Date: 08/29/93 9:09p Subj: Price Confusion Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Tony! On 08-25-93 Tony Stott wrote to Rowan Evans... TS> MA>> $1300.00 for the combo and, (they also sold the SB kit!) when TS> MA>WOW! That is an outragous price. I got the Texel drive and the TS> TS> Rowan (and everyone else too), can I gently suggest that due to this TS> being an international echo, we all include the symbol for the TS> currency we are referring to when we quote a dollar amount? TS> TS> Common abbreviations are as follows:- TS> Australian $ AUD or A$ TS> US $ USD or US$ TS> Canadian $ CAN or CAN$ TS> TS> There appears to be many messages where the different currencies used TS> without being indentified as such create misunderstanding. Thanks Oops! I do try, but sometimes I forget! Cheers! o /U\ ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2115 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/29/93 9:14p Subj: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Brice! On 08-24-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rowan Evans... BF> > GM> By the way,what's that about 640*480*65,535 cols? A SVGA card BF> > GM> is still 256 or am I confused here? BF> BF> > You're confused.... An SVGA card with 1Mb on it is capable of BF> > displaying 65,536 colours in 640x480 resolution in Windows.... BF> BF> Actually, cards that do more than 256 colors are generally NOT refered BF> to as "superVGA" but more commonly "truecolor" or some such terminology.. Well, true colour cards are normally 24bit colour (16.7 Million colours!). I guess the problem arises as no-one has standardised a name for deeper colour modes of 640x480.... Anything of higher resolution (800x600) is normally termed SVGA, but as the original VGA spec only had 64Kb RAM, then anything over *SHOULD* be at least termed SVGA to differentiate from 64Kb VGA cards! This whole thread got started because I added (1Mb SVGA Card) to the MPC Level 2 spec on the video card as I didn't think that most people would quickly grasp that 640x480x65,536 colours requires more than a standard, el-cheapo VGA card! Cheers! o /U\ ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2116 To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 08/29/93 9:18p Subj: Pro Audio Or Soundbl Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Again Brice! On 08-24-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rowan Evans... BF> > T7G install, which a few people are using as a measure of "how fast BF> > their CD-ROM drive is" reports on three installs I have seen :- BF> BF> > PAS 16/NEC CDR-55 - 300Kbps BF> > SB16 ASP/Panasonic CR563 - 584Kbps BF> > SB16 ASP/Panasonic CR563 - 612Kbps! (Different machine!) BF> BF> Try it with a SCSI drive that is doublespin for a FAIR comparison. The NEC CDR-55 *IS* a doublespin drive! BF> Better yet, try it with a Pioneer DRM-604X on a FAST SCSI card like BF> the Allways IN-2000 or Adaptec 154x - the PAS is OK, but it's SCSI BF> interface is NOT a fast one (generally doesn't NEED to be with most BF> CD-ROM drives).... Want to lend me a DRM-604x so's I can test it?? <g> BTW, as I have said before, the NEC 55 and 74-1 performed to within 5% whether they were attached to the PAS16 *OR* an Adaptec 1540B! Cheers! o /U\ ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2117 To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Date: 08/29/93 9:22p Subj: Re: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Giuliano! On 08-22-93 Giuliano Maciocci Jr. wrote to Rowan Evans... GM> RE> You're confused.... An SVGA card with 1Mb on it is capable of GM> RE> displaying 65,536 colours in 640x480 resolution in Windows.... GM> RE> SVGA is basically anything over a 64Kb VGA card (640x480x16) GM> RE> .... and that includes the additional colour depth..... GM> GM> Gosh, so a VGA with 1MEG can display all those colours AT ONCE??? GM> Sounds too good to be true, but maybe.... I have a TRIDENT 8900c, 1 GM> MEG. Can I do that display? With what drivers? Please GM> someone clear my mind!! Is this sarcasm?? Or do you really want to know?? If you want 640x480x64K colours, you'll need the driver for the Trident card..... You should have it on the diskette that came with your card! BTW, we'd better cut this thread, as its straying too far off the MPC Level 2 spec (which is on-topic! I hope!) and I don't want to get my knuckles rapped! Cheers! o /U\ ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2118 To: DON BOSMAN Date: 08/29/93 9:44p Subj: cr562, 563, info wanted Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Don! On 08-24-93 Don Bosman wrote to All... DB> I have been reading here for a while and have a few questions. DB> The Panasonic CR562b seems to be the drive of choice. DB> What is the difference between it and the 563? None. The only difference is that the 563 is OEMed to Creative Labs. DB> Is there a difference between the 562 and the 562b? Don't think the 562 ever made it to market! DB> I have a SB Pro 16, used to have the drive (522 I think) that came in DB> the Creative Labs kit. Can the 562x just plug and play using the same DB> settings that came with the kit's setup? You'll need either SBCD.SYS or CDMKE41.SYS (the double speed driver) but otherwise, yes. DB> Can two or more 562's be daisy chained on the SB Pro 16? Yes, just change one drive' sdrive select jumper and add both drives to SBCD.SYS and MSCDEX.EXE. Cheers! o /U\ ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2119 To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Date: 08/29/93 9:51p Subj: Re: CDROM forsale Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Giuliano! On 08-22-93 Giuliano Maciocci Jr. wrote to Wee Yung... GM> Sunday August 08 1993, Wee Yung tells Janusz Surowka: GM> GM> WY> CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s GM> 64kcache.$279. GM> GM> Sorry to barge in, but that Pan. 562B seems EXACTLY the GM> same as a NEC I saw advertised some time ago, price GM> included. Is it the same? Could you PLEASE, GM> PLEEEEEEAAASSSEE tell me all there is to know about that GM> specific drive and how it goes with a Sound Blaster Pro? EMFBI, But the Panasonic CR562B *LOVES* to talk to *ANY* SoundBlaster card that includes a CD-ROM interface! 300Kbps transfer rate and spec'd 320ms (single speed) and 450ms (double speed) avg access rates, but seems to be able to do better..... Motorised tray loading.... You'll need either SBDC.SYS or CDMKE41.SYS to get it to talk to your SB Pro as SBPCD.SYS does not support the double speed CD-ROM! Buy one, you'll love it! o /U\ ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAURIE BATT Number: 2120 To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/30/93 12:06a Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No G'day Louis, In a message on <Aug 26>, you said : LG> through a mail order company i've seen those games were when LG> new around $49 u.s. 3 times the price. What I don't like LG> about sierra is they charge the cd version the exact same LG> price as the disk version when their making more profit on LG> the cd version instead of the disk version if you calculate LG> a typical sierra game on disk takes 10 disks thats 30cents LG> each thats $3 american now a cd version would cost less than LG> $1 now that extra $2 savings if they were to take that off What about all the extra work they put in producing the CDROM version, I suppose you expect them to do this for nothing. I think is very commendable of them to sell for the same price as the floppy version. You are lucky they dont charge a whole lot more, as they have to a lot of extra work to produce the CDROM version, particularly when they apparently have used proffesional actors to do the voices. Laurie --- msgedsq 2.2b * Origin: The PNG Connection, Cairns,Tropical Nth Qld, OZ (3:640/532) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DANIEL TSUI Number: 2121 To: YVES DESJARDINS Date: 08/29/93 9:31a Subj: Benchmark test for CDROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hello All! > I'm looking for some type of benchmark test for a CDROM. Any > suggestion? What is the "standard" benchmark test. Also where > can I get it? I have a CD called MegaDEMO which has a bench mark program on it. This is produced by Profit Press. voice 602-577-9696 daniel --- FMail 0.92 * Origin: Daniel's Domain * Brisbane, OZ * (3:640/297.10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RAJIV JOSHI Number: 2122 To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/30/93 1:20p Subj: Toshiba xm-3401ta Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No do you know the difference between the toshiba 3301, 5500a, 3401b, and the 3401ta? Raj *FSED91h* --- Star-Net v1.02a * Origin: Amiga Connection BBS (ADS/SAN & AmigaNET) (3:714/919.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RAJIV JOSHI Number: 2123 To: ALL Date: 08/30/93 1:26p Subj: Toshiba 3401ta Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone with an amiga, and an xetec software interface have the driver that runs the above drive? Raj Ps. i can run other toshiba cd-rom drivers but it's not perfect *FSED91h* --- Star-Net v1.02a * Origin: Amiga Connection BBS (ADS/SAN & AmigaNET) (3:714/919.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 2124 To: DARRELL DAVIS Date: 08/29/93 6:21p Subj: Re: CD-ROM BUNDLES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I just ordered a Fusion 16 package with a 380 ms drive. I -> ordered it -> directly from Media Vision. Most of the retail stores seem to have -> older packages on the shelves. The package was $399 with $9 -> shipping. That was a typo you said 800ms there ok that sounds right. Louis --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY KORPAN Number: 2125 To: ALL Date: 08/30/93 7:21a Subj: Space CDROMs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Folks, could anyone describe the best space related cdrom's they've seen please. (Not Our Solar System which is pathetic). Thanks in advance. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Brass Bed BBS, Nanaimo BC, CANADA - ATI9600etc V32 - (1:351/220) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PETER DETTELIS Number: 2126 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/30/93 12:14a Subj: Cd-rom Liquidation! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No What is the Kodak Photo CD you have listed. I might be interested in this. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: COSUG BBS: Colorado Springs PC User Group 719-632-2566 (1:128/13) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PETER DETTELIS Number: 2127 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/30/93 12:16a Subj: NEW CD 4-PAK: $59 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Is this the upgraded version of the Shareware Bonanza and Shareware Extravaganza package? --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: COSUG BBS: Colorado Springs PC User Group 719-632-2566 (1:128/13) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN PEARCE Number: 2128 To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 08/30/93 5:59p Subj: Re: CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DC> Call our BBS at 615-478-2890 HST or 615-479-1047 14400 and DC> download PCJCDS.ZIP. You'll find some of the lowest Is the file available for f'req? By points or just systems in the nodelist? -John- --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: John's Point At The Foot Of Pikes Peak (1:128/13.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS FRANCIS Number: 2129 To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 08/30/93 11:27p Subj: Re: Night Owl 9 ? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KP>On 07 Aug 93 17:45:00, I heard John Stephenson shout to All: KP>JS> Has anyone got NO9 ? KP>JS> KP>JS> Is it a vast upgrade to NO8 ? KP>JS> KP>JS> Cheers, KP>JS> KP>JS> John Stephenson KP> N i g h t O w l 9 . 0 KP> ****************************************************************** KP> ********* ********* KP> *********** $ 25.00 a Copy !!! *********** KP> ********* ********* KP> *********** *********** KP> ********* Ask for Barney ********* KP> *********** ------------------ *********** KP> ********* 1-800-...-.... ********* KP> *********** *********** KP> ********* We Will NOT be out Sold ********* KP> *********** *********** KP> ****************************************************************** KP> N i g h t O w l 9 . 0 KP>--- Squish v1.01 KP> * Origin: The Softwares Zone (1:231/570) You didn't answer the question!!! I would like to know also. NO AD'S PLEASE!! Chris :) * OLX 2.1 * +his +aClinE ha$ a virU$ in it - dfnt $teal if!!!! --- WM v2.09/92-0389 * Origin: The Mother Board,Buckeye Lake,OH(614)928-2339 (1:226/1400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS FRANCIS Number: 2130 To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/30/93 11:44p Subj: SBPro - pc speaker on mb. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE> MW> But while I was looking at the SBPro board, I noticed a plug that RE> MW> was identified as PC SPEAKER. Does anyone know anything about RE> MW> this? The manual has no explanation of what it's for. It's 2 RE> MW> prongs and my speaker wire won't match it because it's 4 prongs. RE> I'd suggest that us a PC Speaker *IN* connection... use a connection from RE> your m/b spkr connection to the SB Pro and you should then get all your RE> speaker bbeps and squeeks through the SoundBlaster! Be VERY carefull when you hook this up! If one plug is in backwards this can damage or DESTROY your Sound Blaster and/or your motherboard! If you do decide to do this get the tech manual on your motherboard and check the pin assingments on the speaker jack. The assignment on the motherboard for the speaker is pin 1 and pin 4 on the jack, however, which pin is +5 volts and which pin is the speaker pin can varry from board to board. You might be able to check this with a multimeter. As for the SBPRO.... Pin 1 --- +5 volts in Pin 2 --- Speaker output I didn't connect mine because my motherboard manual didn't say what pin did what, and the meter readings were to close together to be of any help. Better save than sorry! Let a service tech do it. That way if he breaks your main board or sound card HE can buy you a new one! Chris :) * OLX 2.1 * I used spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone! --- WM v2.09/92-0389 * Origin: The Mother Board,Buckeye Lake,OH(614)928-2339 (1:226/1400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SAND DIRT Number: 2131 To: RANDY MCANALLY Date: 08/30/93 4:27a Subj: 7th Guest incompatibilti Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Mr President, Randy Mcanally was captured speaking of 7th Guest incompatibiliti to Paul Nusbaum! Very well, shoot him! RM> My friend has seventh guest with a Sound Galaxy NX Pro (which is RM> compatible with almost ALL other cards), and about a minute of music RM> played directly off the CD won't pass through the card for some RM> reason. Headphones must be used. RM> Randy If you are talking about the beginning, which it seems like you must be, then that is the section of raw CD-Audio. Unlike the rest of the game, that is not software produced music. Try it in your CD player and see. While your at it, if you haven't tried to play the tracks off the second CD, do that. Just stay away from those data tracks<G>. ... Perot of Borg: Resistance? Now that's just sad. --- GEcho 1.00+ * Origin: Queen Of Hearts BBS (904)789-6843 (1:3618/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROY COCHRUN Number: 2132 To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 08/31/93 5:53a Subj: Re: Precision mapping Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I missed earlier message(s) on this thread. Which mapping program/disc are you discussing? I collect them (altho I have no idea why!!) -- regards, Roy Cochrun --- OverMail v0.82b * Origin: The DGS System -Viper- EC, Maryland - (410)461-9943 (1:261/1116) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WAYNE MAJORS Number: 2133 To: LOU PETRALIA Date: 08/30/93 9:07p Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Aug 27 19:34>, Lou Petralia writes to Charles Hart: LP> -=> Quoting Charles Hart to Michael Hajovsky <=- CH> I suspect the good moderator of this Echo is responding to member CH> comments. -!- LP> This is probily why the number of messages in this echo has LP> decreased since the new policy started But the quality is returning... If you want smut, you can find lots of other echos for that... but for solid CD ROM info.. This is the place. --- * Origin: The WordShop - Ponca City, OK - OS/2 2.1! (1:19/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SCOTT HOLMES Number: 2134 To: BRENT LYNCH Date: 08/31/93 7:35a Subj: Re: cd-rom games Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Return of the Phantom: Same as Disk version, except saves about 20+ -> megs of space on the old HD I don't have this game (don't even have CD-ROM drive yet), but I thought I read that the CD version would include a lot more digitized speach if not a complete talkie. --- TosScan 1.00 * Origin: Knight Moves BBS - Rochester,NY *USA* (1:2613/313) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SCOTT HOLMES Number: 2135 To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 7:55a Subj: Panasonic 563 & sb16 asp Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No It is nice to see so many other people that have the Sound Blaster 16 ASP too. I have been quite pleased with the output, but have had a little trouble with a couple games. Most distributers are willing to create patches for sound cards, but LucasArts has not. I have X-Wing and it seems to have a little trouble with the sound (because of the SB16 I am told). I plan to purchase a CD-ROM drive and the Panasonic seems like the one for me (probably the 563), but I am wondering if peoople with games from LucasArts (Day of the tentical...) on CD have had sound trouble. Or any game or utility with the SB16 for that matter. Thanks! Scott H. --- TosScan 1.00 * Origin: Knight Moves BBS - Rochester,NY *USA* (1:2613/313) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JD BROWN Number: 2136 To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 08/30/93 7:31p Subj: CDROM Slows BBS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LR> The best network solution I have found for CD-ROM drives is a CD-ROM LR> network called CD-SHARE. The best network solution I have found for multiple CDROMS, is OS/2 2.1 and Lan Server 3.0. ___This copy of KWQ/2 1.2a has been registered. Has yours? ___ X KWQ/2 1.2a X McCOY: I know engineers, they love to change things. --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: OS/2 Exchange (1:3622/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2137 To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/31/93 7:43p Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE> You're a dealer aren't you Poe?? Its probably RE> cheaper for you to get RE> caddies than it is for the average user.... Most RE> users I know of with RE> caddy type drives can only afford one caddy... and RE> they are amazed and RE> impressed by the Panasonic.... Not necessarily. Most places charge dealers almost the same cost as you can get them for everyday at $4.95 each unless you buy a couple hundred of them.... --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: MAXspeed BBS * 486/66 Mhz ain't FAST enough..!! (1:362/119) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 2138 To: ALAN WILLIAMS Date: 08/31/93 12:04a Subj: Cd-Rom Program Wanted Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No AW>Anyone selling "Shadow President" on CD-ROM? What is it? * SLMR 2.1 * Please smash head through monitor to continue. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Airtight Garage, San Francisco, Cal. 415-641-0348 (1:125/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL MULCAHY Number: 2139 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/31/93 4:05p Subj: Mac CD Info Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have been searching for MAC CD's, primarily ones that are Educational. The reason for my call to you was to procure the "1993 Grolier's Multimedia Encyclopedia" plus 4 caddies. A Mac version of this encyclopedia is out on the street. I saw it listed in the Educational Resources Catalog (800) 624-2926. This is a Macintosh resource catalog. EduCorp is another CD resource for Mac users (800) 843-9497. Tiger Software offers MAC CD as does Computer Town..there's more. You migh want to consider carrying MAC CD's..there's definitely a Market The new AppleCD 300 supports the following formats: HFS ( Hierarchical File System), ISO 9660 (this includes audio and Photo CD's) and the High Sierra format...Chat w/ ya later....m2 --- MacWoof 1.5.3 * Origin: Fairfax, VA (1:109/70.986@fidonet) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM BROOKS Number: 2140 To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 8:25p Subj: CD-ROM for OS/2 2.1 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *@ORIGIN :1:377/50 N Can anyone recommend a good external CD-ROM that is compatible with and has drivers for OS/2 2.1, and does not cost an arm and a leg? If so, where can I purchase one? Thanks in advance, Jim Brooks --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff083/x] * Origin: The GIFfer in Tampa, FL USA (813)969-1089 USR 16.8DS (1:377/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RONALD LEON Number: 2141 To: JANUSZ SUROWKA Date: 08/31/93 10:24p Subj: MANPOWER - NEW GAY CD-ROM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GP>JS>oh boy, that's excellent <G> "fags on disc" Hahahahaa!!! * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * America Held Hostage: Day 223 of the Socialist Takeover! --- WM v3.01/91-0114 * Origin: Mr. Bills Place BBS! ** Tampa, FL ** (813) 920-2193 (1:3603/170.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RONALD LEON Number: 2142 To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/31/93 11:49p Subj: OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BO>==================== OS2 ON CD For Only $65.00 ? ==================== BO> IN STOCK BO> Until Septemeber 14, 1993 you can purchase the complete OS/2 v2.21 BO> package, which offer's you the installation disks, cd, manuals and BO> other special discounts for only $65.00! BO> Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the BO> rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom BO> line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65. Isn't that deal ONLY available to registered users of previous versions of OS/2? I think it is. Ron * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * America Held Hostage: Day 223 of the Socialist Takeover! --- WM v3.01/91-0114 * Origin: Mr. Bills Place BBS! ** Tampa, FL ** (813) 920-2193 (1:3603/170.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RONALD LEON Number: 2143 To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 11:49p Subj: OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BO>==================== OS2 ON CD For Only $65.00 ? ==================== BO> IN STOCK BO> Until Septemeber 14, 1993 you can purchase the complete OS/2 v2.21 BO> package, which offer's you the installation disks, cd, manuals and BO> other special discounts for only $65.00! BO> Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the BO> rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom BO> line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65. Isn't that deal ONLY available to registered users of previous versions of OS/2? I think it is. Ron * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * America Held Hostage: Day 223 of the Socialist Takeover! --- WM v3.01/91-0114 * Origin: Mr. Bills Place BBS! ** Tampa, FL ** (813) 920-2193 (1:3603/170.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL KONOR Number: 2144 To: BRIAN ELFERT Date: 08/31/93 11:48a Subj: Re: scsi cdrom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >-> Give me a call. Yes, I'm using a 690meg cdrom online now. > >Ok, I used to have one and it would not handle a 650 meg CD-ROM. > >I'll give you a call next week. This one works fine out to 690 megs. With the new roms, I haven't had a problem and I've read everything off of the drive that's in the root. *FSED91j* --- Star-Net v1.02 * Origin: Inferno_205.837.7715&3990_16.8KDual_3.9GB_ADS (1:373/8.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BRYANT Number: 2145 To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 08/30/93 8:26p Subj: Re: ENCYCLOPEDIA'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ........ JL>Computer Works Jim... JL>CD-Rom Sales! JL>(205) 793-4481 Voice JL>(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Is this BBS up 24 hrs? I tried calling, and got no connect. I can"t hear my modem speaker, so I don't know if there was no answer, voice answer or what, I know it wasn't busy. It's POSSIBLE I got the wrong number. :o --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: The Country Store - Columbus, Ga. (1:3613/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD NIXON Number: 2146 To: MARCUS LEE Date: 08/31/93 2:17a Subj: Ati + 7th Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ML> I was thinking of purchasing an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro 2mb/EISA... ML> and I noticed you said you had probs playing 7th Guest and only 86% ML> optimal on the video... ML> A word of advice... if you are not going to run OS/2 or care little about tech support, the ATI should be a okay company to do business with. If you plan to run OS/2 or need drivers for other non-Windows operating system, then you might want to consider Orchid or some other company. ATI has refused to write drivers for OS/2 because they feel that NT is the way to go... W/O going into an OS debate, I think a company should write drivers for every operating system (currently, there are about 6, including Unix, on the PC) and let the user decide. * KWQ/2 1.2a * If at first you don't succeed, put out another version (KWQ 1.2 ............................................................................... --- WM v3.01/92-0214 * Origin: The Classifieds SF, CA (415) 665-7918 (1:125/665.0) (1:125/665.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD NIXON Number: 2147 To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 08/31/93 2:40a Subj: OS/2 CD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BO> ==================== OS2 ON CD For Only $65.00 ? BO> ==================== BO> IN STOCK BO> Until Septemeber 14, 1993 you can purchase the complete OS/2 v2.21 BO> package, which offer's you the installation disks, cd, manuals and BO> other special discounts for only $65.00! BO> Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the BO> rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom BO> line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65. The only way to get the $30 back is if you own a previous version of OS/2 (2.0 or 1.3). * KWQ/2 1.2a * "640K ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates, 1981 ............................................................................... --- WM v3.01/92-0214 * Origin: The Classifieds SF, CA (415) 665-7918 (1:125/665.0) (1:125/665.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 2148 To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 11:19p Subj: Busty Babes Release 2.0 is Back Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * * B U S T Y B A B E S * * RELEASE 2.0 * * IS BACK!! * * Will be re-released in September. We are taking pre-orders. The Price - $36.95. We will meet any price on it. Features: 675+ MB of Erotica Viewing Pleasure - 1,000 Copyrited High Resolution VGA/SVGA Pics including the Busty Babes Fully BBS Ready with text files in Files.BBS format New Show Off Interface with easy menu installation PCJ Computing-Voice 615-339-0235/Fax 615-479-1047/Orders 800-547-7817 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: MAXspeed BBS * 486/66 Mhz ain't FAST enough..!! (1:362/119) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JD BROWN Number: 2149 To: MARK WIMMER Date: 08/31/93 4:54p Subj: CD ROM disk cache Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MW> DS> Does anyone out there know of a good disk cache for a CD-ROM? OS/2 ___This copy of KWQ/2 1.2a has been registered. Has yours? ___ X KWQ/2 1.2a X PS/2 9595OMT,32MB RAM and OS/2 2.1. Speed and Stability. --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: OS/2 Exchange (1:3622/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL KESSLER Number: 2150 To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 8:35p Subj: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No What type of CD ROM would be good for a Amiga 2000. The CD ROM should be able to play photo CD's and of course be compatable with CD TV disks as well as PC CD's (Mods,gifs ect). Price should resonable if possible. --- DLG Pro v0.999/DLGMail * Origin: Steve's One Stop DLG Shop (1:114/52) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RODOLFO LUCAS Number: 2151 To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 8:21p Subj: JOGOS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Alguem que conheça jogos para CD-ROM poderia me informar qual säo os melhores do Gênero ? Obrigado, Rodolfo Lucas --- * UniQWK v2.1 * The Solution for Multilingual Messages --- EzyQwk V1.02 * Origin: IMAGE BBS - 521-8752 / 287-7440 14k4 Bps 24 h (4:802/39) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARCILIO BARBOSA Number: 2152 To: RODOLFO LUCAS Date: 08/28/93 3:17p Subj: JOGOS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RL> Alguem que conheça jogos para CD-ROM poderia me informar >qual säo os melhores do Gênero ? RL> Obrigado, Rodolfo Lucas >--- Rodolfo, eu nao conheco outros. Mas, se tiver oportunidade (US$), nao deixe de comprar o "The 7th Guest" (custa US$90.00 na Icon - 262-5737). Empaquei em alguns quebra-cabecas,mas continuo ttentando a solucao. Voce nao vai se arrepender. Abracos, Marcilio. --- ■ QMPro 1.0 01-0001 ■ All rising to a great place is by a winding stair. --- EzyQwk V1.02 * Origin: IMAGE BBS - 521-8752 / 287-7440 14k4 Bps 24 h (4:802/39) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LUCIANO MUNHOZ Number: 2153 To: BEN BARTON Date: 08/28/93 1:10p Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > LM> > LM>Could anybody, please, give me some techinical specifications about > LM>CD-ROM drives? > LM> > LM>Regards, > LM>Luciano Munhoz > LM> > LM>--- FMail 0.94 > LM> * Origin: Hi you! I'm here!!! (4:801/49.52) > LM> > What kind of infor do you need? Acess time, kb/s rate, what comes together (CDs, controler card). It's true it comes with a SCSI controler? Etc, etc, etc.. - Luciano - --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Hi you! I'm here!!! (4:801/49.52) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTIAN GRIMM Number: 2154 To: LUIZ MEYER Date: 08/27/93 6:28p Subj: scsi cdrom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LM > -=> Quoting Christian Grimm to Michael Konor <=- LM > CG> * Em mensagem para All, Michael Konor disse: LM > MK > SCSI CDROMs For Sale: LM > MK > Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00 LM > MK > Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00 LM > MK > Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac. Features 50 LM > MK > Pin True SCSI, LM > MK > 300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and LM > MK > 64k Buffer. LM > MK > Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty LM > MK > 205-837-5053 anytime. LM > CG> De que cidade você é? LM > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ LM > You really don't think he'll understand what you're LM > saying, do you? Sorry, I wrote in portuguese, I didn't know you are american. I asked what is your home city. I saw these prices that you wrote and I wanted to know your city because I --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: < Top BBS > [Ctba,PR,BR*041-273-5895*14.4 V32b*14H-6H] (4:804/3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTIAN GRIMM Number: 2155 To: LUIZ MEYER Date: 08/27/93 6:31p Subj: scsi cdrom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LM > -=> Quoting Christian Grimm to Michael Konor <=- LM > CG> * Em mensagem para All, Michael Konor disse: LM > MK > SCSI CDROMs For Sale: LM > MK > Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00 LM > MK > Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00 LM > MK > Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac. Features 50 LM > MK > Pin True SCSI, LM > MK > 300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and LM > MK > 64k Buffer. LM > MK > Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty LM > MK > 205-837-5053 anytime. LM > CG> De que cidade você é? LM > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ LM > You really don't think he'll understand what you're LM > saying, do you? LM > See ya! LM > Luiz Meyer LM > ... Danger, Christian Grimm! Off-topic messages! Danger! LM > --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR] LM > * Origin: < Top BBS > [Ctba,PR,BR*041-273-5895*14.4 LM > V32b*14H-6H] (4:804/3.0) Epa, voce nao e' americano! Eu pensei que estava repondedo para o americano, mas a mensagem nao veio dele, e sim de voce. --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: < Top BBS > [Ctba,PR,BR*041-273-5895*14.4 V32b*14H-6H] (4:804/3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LUIZ MEYER Number: 2156 To: CHRISTIAN GRIMM Date: 08/27/93 10:25p Subj: scsi cdrom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Christian Grimm to Luiz Meyer <=- CG> De que cidade você é? LM> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ LM > You really don't think he'll understand what you're LM > saying, do you? LM > See ya! LM > Luiz Meyer CG> Epa, voce nao e' americano! Eu pensei que estava repondedo para o CG> americano, mas a mensagem nao veio dele, e sim de voce. -!- And it took you two messages to notice this!?!? 8-O Better luck next time boy! 8-))) Bye! Luiz Meyer ... RadioActivity ... Is in the air for you and me ... --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: < Top BBS > [Ctba,PR,BR*041-273-5895*14.4 V32b*14H-6H] (4:804/3.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON BOSMAN Number: 2157 To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/30/93 12:34p Subj: 56x daisy-chainable now Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LG> There is no 562 theres just the 562b and the 563 the 563 is the same LG>as the 562b the only difference is the 563 model is to be sold as a LG>-> Can two or more 562's be daisy chained on the SB Pro 16? LG> The answer to that is no Thanks for the info. I picked one up over the weekend. Nice drive. Oh, and by the way, the 56x series can now be daisy chained. They are addressable and up to four can be chained together. It says in the manual that a 52x can also be used, but the address can not be changed and is assumed to be 0. ___ X OLX 2.2 X Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)uke --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Lighthouse CBCS HST/V.32, 150+ echos, 517-321-0788 (1:159/950) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2158 To: BOB SHUSTER Date: 09/01/93 1:44a Subj: Re: Mac cd-roms Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Hey Boris - how about a listing of your Macintosh titles? >> They dn't have to be Mac specific, they can be dual format. - Will try to post a few Bob, but I've stated before, doesn't seem like there's a lot of interest in MAC cd's. Dr. CD ... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2159 To: DAVID NGHIEM Date: 09/01/93 1:44a Subj: Re: pioneer 600] Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> I plan on buying a pioneer 600 changer for use for my BBS. >> But I am wondering that if I had six cd's on the drive at >> once, would they show up as 6 drives? Or do I have to >> alternate the cd's constantly? I hope this is a software >> automated process. I would hate to buy six cd's, put them on >> the system only to find out that I have to manually change a >> cd when a user wants to look at another one. If anyone can >> help in using the pioneer for the BBS, thanks!!!! The Pioneer 600 will act just like 6 seperate drives or can be used as one logical drive with 6 seperate directories, this is of cource software driven and another package all together. As to access the drive it's just the same as if you were to type A:, B:, etc. Almost any BBS software package will handle a Pioneer unit without a problem. If you need further assistance, please feel free to give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to assist you further as we do sell both the 600 and the 604x. Hope this helps... Boris Osadciw ... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2160 To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 1:44a Subj: TOSHIBA SPECIAL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% TOSHIBA 3401 CDROM Player %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% 200ms access time - 330kps transfer rate w/ 1.2meg burts mode - Novell - OS/2 - Windows compatiable - Mutli-spin - Multisession Kodak approved - caddy system. Internal Bare Drive - $389. - Bare = Drive, caddy and manual External Bare Drive - $489. - Same as above Pro Studio 16 with above purchase only $225. while supply lasts Media Vision Upgrade Kit - $25.00 ORDER LINE ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759 Boris Osadciw ... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2161 To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 1:44a Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S *************** Chinon Int 340ms Kit - $359.00 Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 Panasonic 561 Int Kit - $289.00 Phillips Ext kit refur $195.00 Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1199. Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00 Texel Int Complete Kit - $469.00 Texel Ext Complete - $569.00 Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $389.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$489.00 Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 Mitsumi w/Sound Card - $325.00 Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50. ALL ChestNuts CD's $10.00ec ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759 Boris Osadciw ... Who Killed Superman? --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2162 To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 1:44a Subj: NEW CDROMS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No )))))))))))))))))))))) H O T N E W C D ' S (((((((((((((((((((((( Dr. Music - Music Editors, MOD, MIDI, ROL, SND, VOC, WAV and more! Dr. Shareware - 615 megs of shareware programs and utilities! Dr. Games - 600+ megs of Adventure, Arcade, Card, Sports and more! Dr. Windows - 3,440 files of window programs and utilities! All BBS READY !! Price - $59.00 for all 4 or $20.00ec ORDER LINE ONLY - 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759 Boris Osadciw ... Oh never mind! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROB MCINTYRE Number: 2163 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/31/93 12:38p Subj: CD LIQUIDATION! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RM>Oh... Pity. MS> Huh? That was a reply to the inquiry on the "Jedi Collection". --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Tumbler's Tavern BBS, (613) 825-9302 (1:163/315) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB JACKSON Number: 2164 To: ED FEINS Date: 08/31/93 11:15a Subj: Re: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No EF> I have EIGHT CD-CADDIES for sale. EF> EF> $25.00 - shipping INCLUDED in USA If they're still unsold when you get this, send them COD to me at: 1720 Bowline Road, Houston, TX 77062-4536. I can be reached at (713) 488-0065 6-9 p.m. CDT for confirmation if you like. ... MONEY TALKS ... but all mine ever says is GOODBYE! --- Blue Wave/RA v2.10 * Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 | (1:106/30.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRYAN BRANAM Number: 2165 To: DAVID NGHIEM Date: 08/31/93 7:40a Subj: pioneer 600] Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I plan on buying a pioneer 600 changer for use for my BBS. But I am -> wondering that if I had six cd's on the drive at once, would they sho -> up as 6 drives? Or do I have to alternate the cd's constantly? I ho -> this is a software automated process. I would hate to buy six cd's, -> them on the system only to find out that I have to manually change a -> when a user wants to look at another one. If anyone can help in usin -> the pioneer for the BBS, thanks!!!! -> According to the information I got from Pioneer .. The driver assigns a drive letter to each disc and when you access that drive letter it changes to that disc (so you have 6 drives) .. Or you can assign it as one big drive (if your software can handle it) and use the disc lables as a refrence. ====> Bryan --- WM v2.06 [Eval]/91-0881 * Origin: TechLands BBS Echonet 50:5305/300 (1:369/55) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN GULKIS Number: 2166 To: DAVID NGHIEM Date: 08/31/93 9:17a Subj: pioneer 600] Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DN>wondering that if I had six cd's on the drive at once, would they show DN>up as 6 drives? Or do I have to alternate the cd's constantly? I hope DN>this is a software automated process. It's completely automatic. Each disk shows up as a different drive letter. When you access a file on a specific drive letter, it switches to that disk. If you have a multiline system, it is highly recommended that you copy files from the CDROM to the hard disk before starting downloads. If you run WildCat (since you're running WildMail...), there is a switch in the Makewild settings to do that. Some of the CDROM doors also let you do that. If you don't, and two callers are downloading from different disks, it will continuously shuffle between the two disks, and disk switches aren't very fast. --- ■ QMPro 1.50 41-2036 ■ He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curly --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0177] * Origin: Origin Line Not Defined In GOEDIT (1:369/121) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Number: 2167 To: ALL Date: 08/30/93 11:15p Subj: GREAT SERVICE AND VALUE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Canada's CD-ROM Source is... CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA 6 Armstrong Bay * Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7 306-789-4654 Voice * 306-789-8690 Fax VISA/MC/MO/Cheque Accepted New titles weekly! Call for current specials! --- The Mail Box [NR] * Origin: SUPERBOARD/CD-ROM WHOLESALERS (306)789-8682 (1:140/121) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RACHEL REPSTAD Number: 2168 To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/31/93 6:56p Subj: games Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey! I really want Space Quest 5. I like the space quest series but I think my favorite series would be the Police Quest Series. I beaten 1, 2, and 3 and I can't wait to number 4. Sqace Quest 3 is my favorite out of the space Quest series. I have CD-ROM drive but that is on the BBS so I can't use it for games. The BBS is networked but it is incredibly slow through the network. My Dad says he's gonna get panasonic but I don't know when that will be. Have you played the Wolf 3D games? They are incredible! I've beaten games 1-6 on Wolf but I haven beat any of the games in Spear of Destiny. Now Doom is supposed to come out soon and I can't wait to get that! Also Biomenace is pretty good but I beat it the same day I got it. Well gotta go. L8R. :) --- Ezycom V1.02 01fa005e * Origin: AUTOBYTE BBS-Franklin,VT/802-285-6846/RIP/2+Gig (1:325/1203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SHAUN RADER Number: 2169 To: RANDY MCANALLY Date: 08/30/93 2:43p Subj: S3 video chip Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No <<***** RANDY MCANALLY wrote this on 08-28─93 {May be edited} *****>> ─>I have a Cirrus logic 1MB vesa local bus video card on my 486DX/33. Do ─>this video card have a S3 chip in it? The docs claim windows ─>acceleration. I ran a vga video test and the docs said a 10-12 frame p ─>second video redraw in dos is average. It measured 88.1 frames per ─>second om mine!!! I can't see how there could be a problem with ─>slowness. I really want 7th guest and don't want stupid incompatabilit I'm not sure if that card has an S3 chip (probably does, because most Windows accelerators seem to have it), but even if it does.. The 7th Guest should work. I have a Diamond Stealth 24 (ISA) and it has the S3 chip. I only get 2% on the video test, but it runs pretty good. The video looks fine, but when you move from room to room, you will see the video is a little choppy. It's not TOO bad, but you can see the screen redrawing. -Shaun Rader- -Madman@Liberty.Com- 08/30/93 10:53 --- * CmpQwk 1.13 #141 * Keyboard not connected, press <F1> to continue. --- DB 1.39/004485 * Origin: The Diamond Bar BBS - 909-923-1031 - Ontario, CA (1:218/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED YEE Number: 2170 To: SUNNY LEUNG Date: 08/31/93 8:35p Subj: Writable CD-ROM's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SL> Can you produce your own CD's? Sure, if you had a WORM, DRAW, or a ReMOD drives. SL> Suppose you wrote some files on a CD-ROM. Is it SL> possible to add more files SL> to the CD? Look above. SL> Can you erase a CD and reuse it? Not with WORM nor DRAW, but yes on ReMOD with ReMOD disks. SL> What's the difference between a CD and a optical SL> disk (and what's a WORM SL> drive)? An optical disk, in most cases, can be written to several times. a Normal CD has info, burned into the metal platter, so you can't change it without destroying everything. Ooppss: WORM - Write Once Read-only Memory DRAW - Direct Read After Write (same as WORM) ReMOD - Re-writable Magneto Opitcal Disk --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: EXCESS BBS Calgary (403)285-7338 1.8gb (HST-DS 16.8K) (1:134/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 2171 To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 08/31/93 7:18a Subj: Re: CD-ROM INTERFACES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LR> The Always card is in no way superior to the GP> Adaptec line. In the LR>first place, the IN-2000 only comes as an ISA card, no GP> MCA or EISA support. GP> Why would anybody care about MCA? That's dead. Even IBM has started GP> using ISA again. EISA is virtually dead, too. I'm not convinced that GP> there's much value in a company that encourages users to buy future GP> orphans. ISA is a lot deader than MCA or EISA, it just doesn't know it, yet. It was a lousy standard at the outset, and now is not only lousy, but moth eaten. LR>do believe it is an ISA busmaster, but on an ISA GP> system, only one busmaster LR>allowed, so one cannot utilize any other busmasters GP> with an IN-2000. Also, GP> Big deal there too... what other busmasters would you NEED to use, other GP> than the disk controller board? What other ISA busmasters ARE there, GP> even? XGA and S3 video, I/O Multiport, Ethernet, secondary or higher SCSI boards, video capture boards, dozens of different real-time capture boards, WWV boards, answering machine boards... shall I go on? I'm running three busmasters (obviously *NOT* ISA busmasters) and a slave in this machine. LR>Also, Always has refused to produce OS/2 drivers for GP> their card, while Adapt GP> Again, I'm not sure that's a bad thing. A company can waste a lot of GP> money chasing after all the latest fads, and it's the user that GP> ultimately foots that bill. Of course the user foots the bill, but OS/2 is hardly a fad. It is the OS that we SHOULD have had 10 years ago. LR>is supported right out of the OS/2 box. GP> Then you ought to criticize OS/2 for not including support for the GP> IN-2000, since it is evidently IBM that ought to be providing the GP> support for the Always board, rather than the opposite. Hardly. Always did not bother to work with IBM to produce drivers in time for the release of OS/2. If they had, IBM would have supplied support for them right out of the box, as well. OF course, one can use the generic INT13 drivers with the IN-2000, but that is like dragging a dead horse around the track, rather than buying a live one. LR>I am running an Adaptec 1742 EISA LR>busmaster SCSI HA under OS/2 2.1, and it runs wild circles around the LR>IN-200 GP> And you are suggesting, maybe, that they cost the same? :-)) Nope. The 1742 is a GREAT deal cheaper. My time is valuable, and the $100 difference between the ISA board and the EISA board is re-captured in very short order, indeed. Once again, this is off-topic. If you wish to continue, why don't you come over to the OS2HW echo? Les --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: GUI? Ptui!!! --- Last Chance Pt 4 (1:387/800.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM BROWN Number: 2172 To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 5:10p Subj: The 7th Guest.. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello all! I have The 7th Guest for CD ROM and just currently had to re-fromat my hard drive... &th Guest was working before the HD crasg, but a few months after it,.. I tried to play it and at the cake puzzle I click on a cake peice and it exsits yo dos saying something like "This is not a VDX file".. can anyone help me? --- WM v3.00/92-0662 * Origin: NWCS Online + 18 Nodes + 5 Gig + (503) 620-5910 + (1:105/362.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN BACHMAN @ 930/1 Number: 2173 To: SHAUN RADER Date: 08/31/93 6:49p Subj: Re: Games Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Well if you like the talking games for CD's. Try LOOM it also talks instead of having to read the text. The Adventure of Willy Beamish is another one, but so far I have not been as impressed with it as I was with LOOM, just not have spent that much time with it at this point. --- QM v1.30/b # Origin: Horizon RBBS 214-881-9346 HST (8:930/1.0) * Origin: Gateway System to/from RBBS-NET (RBBS-PC 1:10/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 2174 To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 08/30/93 1:20p Subj: Cd-Rom Help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> LG> Creative labs have already made a deal with panasonic they've -> already LG>released (amazing drive amazing price!) the panasonic -> CR-562B check out LG>the specs 320ms access time, 300kb/sec transfer -> speed, 64k cache (helps LG>a lot!), powered tray with eject button, -> THE ONLY device that can be LG>plugged onto the sound blaster pro or -> sound blaster 16, -> -> Yes, and THERE, RIGHT THERE, is the big GOTCHA. I wouldn't even -> consider buying that drive, no matter how attractive it is for any -> other reason, if I am arbitrarily and forever chained to a -> SoundBlaster Pro or 16 sound card in order to be able to use the -> CD-ROM drive. Why? Well, let's say that in 12 months somebody -> (Gravis, or somebody else) introduces a hot new sound card that makes -> everything else obsolete overnight. In your case, you're shafted, -> 'cuz you can't get rid of your now-obsolete SoundBlaster card without -> losing your CD-ROM drive too. What new improvements can they make to 16bit cd audio quality sound? They haven't yet upgraded the cd audio players to do more than 16 bits themselves. How come you're saying i'd be shafted? I don't think you even know anything about the panasonic drives and probably think you know everything about it. So if I sell off the sound blaster 16 i can still plug the cdrom on the ATBUS interface card. -> Right. Why does that make them "not as good"? Again, what reason is -> there to have to chain your CD-ROM leg to your sound board? Save myself 1 slot for other important things. --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RON FINDLING Number: 2175 To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/27/93 9:14p Subj: CD-ROM vs. disk versions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >What I don't like about sierra is they charge the cd version the exact >same price as the disk version when their making more profit on the cd >version instead of the disk version... (details given) Presumably though if they ARE adding scenes to the CD version not in the disk version, that costs money for them to do, and they should be allowed to charge extra because of that. ...And more than one might think, since the market for the CD version is considerably smaller than the disk version... But a lot depends on whether those extra parts are WORTH the extra money... ___ X SLMR 2.1a X Coming soon to a mirage near you: Windows 4.0 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: DaTaCoRp (1:353/730) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN CHESNEY Number: 2176 To: ANDRE QUEREE Date: 08/31/93 7:20p Subj: q Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> --- T.A.G. 2.6f Alpha * Origin: You mean I can't *WRITE* to this? (1:2410/116@FIDONET.ORG) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MTRAFFIC Number: 2177 To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 3:39a Subj: Traffic Report! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ********************************************************************* * Birdsoft Poster Record for Area: CDROM * * Messages received by Unregistered (1:3600/7) * * Sun, Aug 1, 1993 - Tue, Aug 31, 1993 * ********************************************************************* Posts Name Average Size Address ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 87 Boris Osadciw 151 1:157/46 78 Rowan Evans 476 3:711/413 62 HENRY PAUL 1000 1:138/173 32 Mike Shannon 1063 1:3407/101 28 Giuliano Maciocci Jr. 1108 5:7211/1.78 28 Leslie Rhorer 1544 1:387/800.4 27 Janusz Surowka 433 1:142/212 26 Carlos Benitz 974 1:125/17 25 Poe Lim 956 3:623/630 23 Jim Lambert 939 1:18/10 23 Wee Yung 1092 1:102/138 22 Brice Fleckenstein 688 1:231/190 22 Steve Pesant 1047 1:153/7070 21 Doug Carpenter 685 1:362/119 21 Bob Jackson 703 1:106/30.0 20 Ismail Arslangiray 571 1:138/116 18 David Calvin 831 1:2606/583 17 Bob Hall 754 1:147/34 17 Ashwin Bihari 700 1:324/123 15 Michael Mulcahy 781 1:109/70.986 15 Shaun Rader 1191 1:218/101 15 Diana Kirksey 802 1:208/401 14 Michael Geggus 1340 6:731/18.0 14 Chris Johnson 1382 1:130/801.2 14 Randy Mcanally 552 1:202/1513.0 13 Roy Cochrun 843 1:261/1116 13 Guilherme Moura 576 4:808/16 12 Richard Nixon 893 1:125/665.0 12 Terry Blount 869 1:3625/441 12 Andrew Barfoot 1136 3:633/362 12 Dave Clark 1065 1:18/2 12 Gordon Peterson 1115 2:320/203 12 Jerry Murphy 2024 1:157/3 11 Danny Tong 873 1:125/217.0 11 David M. White 587 1:300/2 11 Mark Womack 1128 1:3660/801.0 11 Ed Yee 927 1:134/134 11 Sam Jones 929 1:396/27 11 Don Rieb 976 1:115/724 10 Martin Taylor 946 3:632/335 10 Jurrie Hobers 1016 2:512/183.0 10 Louis Ghinis 1217 1:229/15 10 Michael Konor 675 1:373/8.0 10 Don Kulha 1443 1:125/7 10 Steve Gerweck 564 1:2380/120.0 10 Laurie Batt 827 3:640/531.2 (truncated for brevity) Total = 2274 by 676 authors. --- SLMAIL v2.15B-S (#1540) * Origin: Robotech BBS +HST+ *MODs/GIFs/Demos* 904-758-9477 # (1:3600/7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY STOTT Number: 2178 To: GREG DUFFUS Date: 08/31/93 7:43a Subj: Wrong Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 08-25-93, Greg Duffus elucidated to Rafal Trojanowski: GD>Hey Raf man, I thought I'd just let you know that you have a couple of GD>assignments due next Friday. Seeya..... I sure hope the topic is not "Using the correct Fidonet echo for private messages" --- ■ WinQwk 2.0 B4 #220 ■ Psychoceramics: The study of crackpots --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Coastal Communications Multiline BBS (02)977-6820 (3:714/906) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2179 To: POE LIM Date: 08/31/93 5:20p Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Poe! On 08-29-93 Poe Lim wrote to Rowan Evans... PL> On Aug 23 20:44 in a msg to Poe Lim, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote: PL> PL> > caddies than it is for the average user.... Most users I know of PL> > with caddy type drives can only afford one caddy... and they are PL> > amazed and impressed by the Panasonic.... PL> PL> The cheapest caddies I've bought (and this is cheaper than PL> what a dealer I know can get them for) was via this echo, PL> from a local contact (take a bow, Tony S. :). Whilst I have seen ads for caddies for $A5.00, and some companies offering "free" caddies if you buy x number of CD-ROMs at a time, the average price for a single caddy for the casual user appears to be about $A15.00. Now, you and I haunt this echo and can grab a deal with a cheap CD-ROM caddy, etc, but a lot of the users I talk to place BBSes and modems in the voodoo/black magic category, and even telling them to "call so & so" doesn't have much impact.... PL> It can be a hassle when you have to handle multiple CD to PL> take them out of their cases; easier just to keep them in PL> caddies, and slip them in as required. Well, I operate on "open CD-ROM, extract old ROM, place in case, open new ROM case, place on tray, close tray".... Simple, foolproof process... No hassles! Of course it was interesting the one time I accidently inserted a second ROM without checking that the drive was empty! PL> As to the cost, I calculate it as a percentage of the cost PL> of the ROMs; most of the time they come to less than 10% of PL> the cost, which is acceptable for the protection thus gained. Well, some of the shareware CD-ROMs (Simtel, CICA Windows) are available for $A20.00 or so... even a $A5.00 impost is 25% of the cost of the ROM. And if, as I said before, you were a casual user with an average caddy price of $A15.00, this makes it rather expensive.... BTW, if you have an audio CD player, is it a caddy type or a tray type?? Cheers! o /U\ ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2180 To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 08/31/93 5:33p Subj: Re: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Les! On 08-29-93 Leslie Rhorer wrote to Rowan Evans... LR> PL> The main advantage of a caddy system (IMHO) is when you frequently LR> PL> swap disks; much easier having them in caddies, and merely shove LR> LR> PL> them in, then having to fiddle around with the case. You LR> PL> can also leave a few of them around and not worry about scratches. LR> LR> RE> You're a dealer aren't you Poe?? Its probably cheaper for you to get LR> RE> caddies than it is for the average user.... LR> LR> Perhaps. Margins are pretty slim on that sort of thing. Current Aussie prices (retail, not special deals, etc) for a single caddy is around $A15.00 to $A20.00. This is the price if you walk into any computer store that stocks them and ask to buy a caddy..... Some deals I have seen advertised have caddies for $A5.00..... This is *NOT* what I would call a slender margin! LR> RE> Most users I know of with caddy type drives can only afford one LR> RE> caddy LR> LR> Oh, get REAL! Caddies are about $4 each in packs LR> of 5. If one cannot afford $43 for a caddy, how can one ^^ Oops ??? <g> LR> afford $25-$100 for the software and $250 for the drive? I believe that the viewpoint is a realistic one.... Especially when you talk to a user that says that he will have 1500 odd machines with CD-ROM drives in them... Having 2 or 3 CD-ROMs in separate caddies adds (at best $A15.00 - cheapest price I've seen for caddies is $A5.00) then multiply this by 1500, comes to $A22,500.00 additional.... the worst case makes this figure around $A70,000.00..... these are not insubstantial amounts to do what you recommend.... And we then come back to the fact that show an "average" user a CD-ROM drive with a caddy and a CD-ROM drive without a caddy and the user will, 9 times out of 10 select the non-caddy drive..... My own personal loathing for caddies dates back to 1989 and a CD-ROM drive (I think it was a Philips) with a "claw" type caddy that, although it looked universal was a "this side up" type caddy.... The trauma that this drive inflicted was such that I vowed *NEVER* to buy a CD-ROM drive with a caddy.... Cheers! o /U\ ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2181 To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 08/31/93 5:36p Subj: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Gordon! On 08-24-93 Gordon Peterson wrote to Rowan Evans... GP> RE> For info, the Multimedia council has released the MPC level 2 spec GP> RE> and I have listed it below :- GP> GP> I urge EVERYONE to boycott this garbage. A standard isn't a standard GP> if the people making the hardware and software can continue to "raise GP> the bar" by increasing the hardware required every six to twelve months. GP> Why go to the trouble of meeting a standard, if six months later you GP> find that you're still screwed? :-(( You have a valid viewpoint..... I thought it interesting from the fact that it shows the direction that the marketing board is pushing the market and for anyone contemplating purchase of a new machine, if they were considering CD-ROM or MPC, that the double speed drive was (from this spec) almost a mandatory item... Cheers! o /U\ ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2182 To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/31/93 6:02p Subj: panasonic Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Louis! On 08-28-93 Louis Ghinis wrote to Geoff Moehle... LG> mistaken panasonic is 320ms access time not 350. As for the top brand LG> drives that are 200ms if you compare the speed its only 33% faster LG> which ain't that noticable. The access time represents the worst time LG> it takes to move the laser beam across the disc. The spex I have for the Panasonic CR562B state 320ms *AVERAGE* access in single speed mode and 450ms *AVERAGE* access in double speed mode... The drive does, however seem to be able to perofrm better than these specifications. And the average access time is the average time it takes for a file to be accessed.... What you have described is the "full stroke access" time... Cheers! o /U\ ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2183 To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/31/93 6:04p Subj: cr562, 563, info wanted Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi again Louis! On 08-28-93 Louis Ghinis wrote to Don Bosman... LG> -> Can two or more 562's be daisy chained on the SB Pro 16? LG> LG> The answer to that is no Sorry, but the answer is *YES* and I *HAVE* done it! Cheers! o /U\ ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2184 To: ANDREW SEE Date: 08/31/93 6:10p Subj: Police Quest 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Andrew! On 08-26-93 Andrew See wrote to HENRY PAUL... AS> HP>I also want to get the CD version of the Wing Commander series. AS> AS> It is the same as the Disk version. No its not! It doesn't gobble up 25Mb of my hard drive like the diskette version did! Cheers! o /U\ ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2185 To: DOUG SCHWANTES Date: 08/31/93 6:14p Subj: CD-ROM disk cache Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Doug! On 08-26-93 Doug Schwantes wrote to All... DS> Does anyone out there know of a good disk cache for a CD-ROM? Norton SpeedCache+ works for me! However, any CD-ROM cache will only be active when you perform multiple reads of the same data... it won't help to speed up loading a program from the CD-ROM..... Cheers! o /U\ ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2186 To: TOM ARRUDA Date: 08/31/93 6:20p Subj: Need Number Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Tom! On 08-29-93 Tom Arruda wrote to All... TA> I have recently purchased a CR-562B drive from MPS. I am running from ..[edited].. TA> both lock up and halt the entire system. I am using a 486dx33 with TA> 8megs of ram ,DOS 6.0, MSCDEX 2.2,Qemm7.0, Norton SpeedCache 4.0. TA> I need the number for Creative Labs BBS. TA> Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Sorry can't help with the US C/L BBS no, but your system is pretty close to mine (main differences DX2/66, DOS 5.0 and MSCDEX 2.1).... and I have *ABSOLUTELY* no problems with my setup under windows... Suggestion #1 :- Is your QEMM Version 7.01?? Suggestion #2 :- Post your CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT and I'll compare to mine for further suggestions! Cheers! o /U\ ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2187 To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 08/31/93 6:28p Subj: Cd-Rom Help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Gordon! On 08-23-93 Gordon Peterson wrote to Louis Ghinis... GP> Yes, and THERE, RIGHT THERE, is the big GOTCHA. I wouldn't even GP> consider buying that drive, no matter how attractive it is for any GP> other reason, if I am arbitrarily and forever chained to a GP> SoundBlaster Pro or 16 sound card in order to be able to use the GP> CD-ROM drive. What about if we used fur lined handcuffs?? <g> Seriously, the CR562B I purchased came with an 8-bit paddle card... Worked fine, but I wanted to save the slot, so I connected to the SB16 ASP.... Interesting point, the CR562B has, on all the benchmarking I've done, an affinity for the SB cards in that it *SPEEDS UP* when attached to one... Maybe its the 16bit connector of the SB card, I don't know (and I can't find a 16 bit paddle card!).... GP> Why? Well, let's say that in 12 months somebody (Gravis, or somebody GP> else) introduces a hot new sound card that makes everything else GP> obsolete overnight. In your case, you're shafted, 'cuz you can't get GP> rid of your now-obsolete SoundBlaster card without losing your CD-ROM GP> drive too. Nope, just stick the 8-bit paddle card back in and lose a slot! In fact I'm thinking of using a PAS16 with the next CR562B as it doesn't have the annoying sound dropouts in the speech of T7G! GP> It might be another thing if there were some super-significant synergy GP> to be gained by tieing them together like that, but as far as I can GP> see there isn't. It's merely a bundled interface, and that's all. If I GP> was that desperately in need of I/O slots in my machine, I'd probably go GP> looking elsewhere to gain one. Sorry, it just sounds like a bad GP> bargain to me. The synergy *IS* there..... GP> I'm not saying that the Panasonic drive isn't a good value for what it GP> is, but the negative of having to chain yourself to a SoundBlaster GP> brand sound card in order to be able to hook it up is thoroughly GP> repugnant, to me at least. OK, so you'll buy one and tie yourself to the 8-bit interface?? <g> Cheers! o /U\ ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2188 To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 08/31/93 6:32p Subj: Cd-Rom Interfaces Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Again Gordon! On 08-23-93 Gordon Peterson wrote to Leslie Rhorer... GP> LR> do believe it is an ISA busmaster, but on an ISA system, only one GP> LR> busmaster allowed, so one cannot utilize any other busmasters with GP> LR> an IN-2000. Also, GP> GP> Big deal there too... what other busmasters would you NEED to use, GP> other than the disk controller board? What other ISA busmasters ARE GP> there, even? FYI, Network Interface Cards. Specifically Madge Token Ring! Also a niche-market SDLC adapter from NCR! GP> LR>Also, Always has refused to produce OS/2 drivers for GP> LR>their card, while Adapt GP> GP> Again, I'm not sure that's a bad thing. A company can waste a lot of GP> money chasing after all the latest fads, and it's the user that GP> ultimately foots that bill. GP> GP> LR>is supported right out of the OS/2 box. GP> GP> Then you ought to criticize OS/2 for not including support for the GP> IN-2000, since it is evidently IBM that ought to be providing the GP> support for the Always board, rather than the opposite. Maybe IBM thought that Allways were a bit player in the market, just like OS/2 is! Cheers! o /U\ ... OFFLINE 1.52 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: AlphaMed Link: The Medical MAX (3:711/413) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAURIE BATT Number: 2189 To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 08/30/93 7:24a Subj: cr562, 563, info wanted Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * On Aug 28 14:55 Louis Ghinis quoth this to Don Bosman LG> still be allowed to connect the cdrom directly to the sound LG> blaster 16 without the need of the interface card. ->> Can two or more 562's be daisy chained on the SB Pro 16? LG> The answer to that is no This is not true. You can connect two CDROM drives to both the SB16 and The SBPRO. At least one of them must have drive selector jumpers (which I believe the 562 does). Laurie --- msgedsq 2.2b * Origin: The PNG Connection, Cairns,Tropical Nth Qld, OZ (3:640/532) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID WINGER Number: 2190 To: SUNNY LEUNG Date: 08/31/93 6:23p Subj: Writable CD-ROM's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 08-27-93 Sunny Leung wrote to All... SL> Hello everybody. SL> SL> While doing a case study for my Systems Analysis and Design course, SL> I came upon several problems involving CD-ROM's. SL> SL> Can you produce your own CD's? Yes, but you need a WORM drive for that. SL> Suppose you wrote some files on a CD-ROM. Is it possible to add more SL> files SL> to the CD? NO! SL> Can you erase a CD and reuse it? NO! SL> What's the difference between a CD and a optical disk (and what's a SL> WORM drive? A CD uses a laser beam to read the information of the disk, an optical disk is the same as a floppy disk except that it uses a laser to keep the heads aligned with the disk, because the tracks on the disk are so fine. WORM stands for Write Once Read Many. A WORM drive can write to a CD, but only once. ___ * OFFLINE 1.56 * (A)bort (R)etry (I)nfluence with large hammer. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Far Northern News - Cairns, Tropical North Qld (3:640/531) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID WINGER Number: 2191 To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 6:39p Subj: New Cd-Rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone out there want to buy a brand new still in the box Panasonic CR-562-B double speed CD-ROM drive for $480. It includes the controller card & all the cables. I was given two for my birthday. The other one works great. Please reply ASAP if you are intersted. Reply via this echo or phone David on 070 559378. ___ * OFFLINE 1.56 * (A)bort (R)etry (I)nfluence with large hammer. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Far Northern News - Cairns, Tropical North Qld (3:640/531) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SAM JONES Number: 2192 To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 11:40a Subj: Photo CD Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have a Panasonic 562-b CD-ROM drive and I would like to know what software is available in order to let me view Kodak Photo CD's. Is there a shareware prgram avaiable? I have seen one prgram (by Kodak) but it was a DOS program and my video card (SSPro VL) was not supported so I guess that I wold not be able to get the 16 mill. color mode so a Windows version would be nice, is there a Windows version, and how much is it? Thanks, Sam --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Node III BBS New Orleans LA (504) 347-4320 (1:396/27) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEVIN SULLIVAN Number: 2193 To: HENRY PAUL Date: 08/30/93 12:55p Subj: Re: Cd-rom help! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No HP>I saw a guy in HS modems even that said he had a 12000 modem, I think HP>he meant 1200. Some cruddy v.32bis modems were only able to connect at 12000, so they started calling em turbos. He might of had one, poor guy. * SPEED 1.20 [NR] * I'll listen to reason when it comes out on Compact Disc --- WM v3.01/92-0751 * Origin: Tokyo PC Club BBS +81 (3) (6:730/16.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL GEGGUS Number: 2194 To: GEOFF MOEHLE Date: 08/28/93 8:42a Subj: Re: help! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Geoff Moehle to All <=- GM> Hey man write me a letter or something..im being ignored...where do i GM> get fast access time and a 300kb/second transfer rate?...but at a good GM> price!!!!!!im maybe interested in a Texel!! Well what do you...the Look for the Panasonic 562b for $249 to $279 if you have the SB Pro. If not look for the new Creative Labs MM bundle with the panasonic 563 both drives are spec'd for MPC level 2, double-speed at a great price. ... What do you mean? You actually read this Tagline?!? --- Blue Wave/TG v2.10 [NR] * Origin: The Texas Lighthouse 81-3117-63-7572 (6:731/18.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NORMAN HAVENS Number: 2195 To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/01/93 1:20a Subj: Mitsumi Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GP-_-capitalize on people's ignorance, and the desire for mystique. Anyone GP-_-who understands the slightest bit about how things like CD-ROM work can GP-_-understand that such "enhancement" products cannot POSSIBLY improve GP-_-their sound (or any other aspect). Don't tell that to the Japanese magazines (or their readerships) that do serious (?) "listening tests" to determine things like the difference between single and double speaker cables, or the "subtle difference in sound quality" they convince themselves appears when a CD player is used with one of those stabilizers. --- WM v3.01/92-0751 * Origin: Tokyo PC Club BBS +81 (3) (6:730/16.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Number: 2196 To: GRAHAM MURPHY Date: 08/26/93 4:32a Subj: Re: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: Graham By: Giuliano Maciocci Jr. (maciocci2@mango.apc.org) On: Thursday August 26 1993 at 04:32 Hi Graham! Tuesday August 17 1993, Graham Murphy told Giuliano Maciocci Jr.: GM> The 486series has an INTERNAL cache to the processor, and this is GM> highly optimized (and V fast). the cache you are talking about is GM> *EXTERNAL* to the chip, and not as fast. Thanks. GM> Graham. GM> Apologize for being off topic. Yeah, me too... ■ ■■■■RAVER■■■■ ■ --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin:STARSHIP ENTERPRISE (The House Of RAVE, 5:7211/1.78) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: IAN DOW Number: 2197 To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 8:47a Subj: Modems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: All By: Dow@mango.apc.org (Ian Dow) On: Friday August 27 1993 at 06:26 My apologies for this not being a CD-ROM topic : At the beginning of this year I obtained a comms/fax modem made by a company called Dallas Fax, in Texas. It is an internal V.42bis model 9696V. It came with Quick Link 2 software ( which is a combined comms/fax program ) I have considerable difficulty getting this modem to operate satisfactorily. I have tried other software, but with limited success. I have tried to contact the makers in Dallas, but have been informed by the phone company operator that they have moved, and cannot be traced. Does anyone know of the location of this company, or the location of an agent of Dallas Fax ?? Does anyone have experience of using this make of modem ?? If so, would you let me have your voice line number Regards, Ian. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: None (5:7211/1.47) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: IAN DOW Number: 2198 To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 8:48a Subj: FastLynx program Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: All By: Dow@mango.apc.org (Ian Dow) On: Friday August 27 1993 at 06:40 My apologies for this not being a CD-ROM topic. Here in Zimbabwe, I currently use an old version of FastLynx. I believe that ver. 4.00 or later is available. Can someone give me an address or phone/fax number of the company that produce this program, or of an agent ?? Regards, Ian. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: None (5:7211/1.47) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: IAN DOW Number: 2199 To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 8:49a Subj: Modems: wireless or radio Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: All By: Dow@mango.apc.org (Ian Dow) On: Friday August 27 1993 at 06:44 My apologies for this not being a CD-ROM topic. I am interested in finding out information on radio packet switching modems. Can anyone help ?? Regards, Ian. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: None (5:7211/1.47) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: IAN DOW Number: 2200 To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 8:50a Subj: SVGA card with video/tv output Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: All By: Dow@mango.apc.org (Ian Dow) On: Friday August 27 1993 at 06:44 Apologies for this not being a CD-ROM topic ! I am interested in obtaining a SVGA card which has a RGB output to a TV or VCR. Can anyone put me in contact with a supplier. Regards, Ian. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: None (5:7211/1.47) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WILLIAM STEVENSON Number: 2201 To: ALL Date: 08/27/93 10:17p Subj: Kings Quest V & SB16ASP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi I've just installed the SB 16 ASP, which works well (e.g. with 7th Guest). But when I install King's Quest 5 (bought December 1992) with sound blaster selected, I get a message 'can't initialize your music hardware'. However, it does run and produce music if I select Adlib. Is there a way to get KQ-V to drive the ASP? William --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Pats System in Pretoria, RSA (5:7106/36.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JUAN-PEDRO MINON Number: 2202 To: ALL,ALL,ALL,AAAALLLLLLL Date: 08/24/93 9:39p Subj: CD-ROM WRITER Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello, all. I am looking for a CD-ROM writer (Kodak PCD Writer 200 or Philips CDD 521/10). Please reply to me with price, capatibilites, software and specifications. Thanks, --- FastEcho 1.25 * Origin: Saludos a todos :-) (2:340/13.7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JUAN-PEDRO MINON Number: 2203 To: JORGE GUTIERREZ Date: 08/24/93 9:46p Subj: Contactar Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hola Jorge. Me llamo Juan Pedro Minon y te escribo para ver si me puedes ayudar. Te he elegido a tí principalmente por que teòricamente tienes que hablar espa|ol y podremos, o por lo menos yo, entendernos mejor. Y ahora al caso. Estoy buscando lo que por aquí se conoce como un BROKER, es decir , una persona que localiza material informático para otra en nombre de una empresa, a cambio de unos honorarios, sueldo, porcentaje o cualquiera que sea la forma de pago por sus servicios. Mis intereses están centrados básicamente en: Placas madre. Controladoras multi I/O. Memorias de 1 Mb a 70 ns. Discos Duros Tarjetas gráficas Unidades de CD-ROM Software en CD-ROM (cualquiera que sea su función) Actualmente me interesa obtener información y precios sobre una unidad CD-ROM de lectura/escritura, como por ejemplo el modelo KODAK PCD WRITER 200 o PHILIPS CDD-521/10 con todos sus accesorios incluyendo el software. Si puedes ayudarme podemos llegar a acuerdos, si no gracias por escucharme. Nombre de mi empresa: SIMULATOR SOFT INFORMATICA Calle Callao de Lima 36, Bajo izquierda Santa Cruz de Tenerife - C.P. 38002 ISLAS CANARIAS - ESPA\A Teléfono: +34-22-291552 Un saludo --- FastEcho 1.25 * Origin: Saludos a todos :-) (2:340/13.7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALAN WILLIAMS Number: 2204 To: SHARI GHARAVY Date: 08/27/93 2:40p Subj: HI! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hello! Um, just want to say hi and hope someone drops me a line. Shar ________________________________________________________________________ <g> --- * RM 1.0 00805 * Fire, Ready, Aim! --- FidoPCB v1.3 [ff125/a] * Origin: Afroline BBS - Maputo, Mocambique (5:7221/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID TORIX Number: 2205 To: TOM ARRUDA Date: 08/31/93 2:26p Subj: Need Number Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TA>I have recently purchased a CR-562B drive from MPS. I am running from a TA>Sound Blaster 16 card. I have had nothing but problems with the drive. TA>It constantly causes "General Protection faults" when run in Windows. I TA>have the "Seventh Guest" and "Day of the Tentacle" that run under dos, TA>both lock up and halt the entire system. I am using a 486dx33 with 8megs TA>of ram ,DOS 6.0, MSCDEX 2.2,Qemm7.0, Norton SpeedCache 4.0. I need the TA>number for Creative Labs BBS. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. According to May '93 boardwatch magazine list it is: 408-428-6660 dave * OLX 2.1 TD * If this were an actual tagline, it would be funny. --- FidoPCB v1.3 [ff105/b] * Origin: PC-Montana BBS, Home of BigSky ROMs, 406-284-3120 (1:3400/26) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID TORIX Number: 2206 To: DALE KANEY Date: 08/31/93 2:26p Subj: O.D.'s using Desktop Publ Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DK>Are you aware of any O.D.'s using commercially available software for their DK>desktop publishing of their office newsletter? I asked a consultant and she DK>gave me the names of two programs for about $600.-$700. They seemed to be a DK>lot more than I needed( rotating graphics,etc.) . I believe they were DK>"Pagemaker" & QuarkXpress. Anyone have any other suggestion? Check out Microsoft Publisher. Or even a good high end word processor such as WOrd for Windows or Word Perfect. Publisher is a good low end publishing package, and word processors like Winword have almost as many features. I use Pub and Winword. A great combo. Dave * OLX 2.1 TD * Chicken heads are the chief food of captive alligators. --- FidoPCB v1.3 [ff105/b] * Origin: PC-Montana BBS, Home of BigSky ROMs, 406-284-3120 (1:3400/26) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2207 To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 08/31/93 11:11p Subj: Re: Cd-rom help! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Nope, I'm saying that OS/2 is a great OS that knows how to im -> virtual memory properly. I have (at the moment) 16 Megs of physical -> each and every DOS session, both VDM and VMB, can have up to 16 Megs -> PLUS, 32 Megs of EMS PLUS, up to 736K of conventional and 200K or so -> until I run out of hard drive space. (with an 800 Meg drive, that wi -> while). Virtual memory is allocated dynamically, so even with many d -> megs of memory allocated, hard drive swapping does not start until th -> applications (not loaded but idle ones) actually exceed the physical -> limit. At that point, the system will usually see a significant slo -> although not necessarily an unacceptable one, short term. -> Oh, and some 12,000bps modems WERE manufactured, although the -> quickly overshadowed by 14,400 HST and v.32bis modems. However, this -> drifted *WAY* off topic. If you wish to continue in this vein, why d -> meet me on the OS2HW echo? Oh, right! Sorry 'bout that :) I forgot about Virtual memory.. I didn't know it worked with conventional & umb too! That's pretty neat! TTYL, Henry --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0051] * Origin: This Old House * D.S. 16.8 * Tacoma Wa (1:138/173) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2208 To: DOUG DAGGER Date: 08/31/93 11:13p Subj: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> how many bit is the matsumi? Well, it has both 8bit and 16bit versions of its controller. Mine showed 8bit on box but had 16bit in box! Lucky break on my end! :) --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0051] * Origin: This Old House * D.S. 16.8 * Tacoma Wa (1:138/173) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HENRY PAUL Number: 2209 To: ROBERT HAWORTH Date: 08/31/93 11:16p Subj: New Roland Compat Sound C Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> It's not the turtle beach card which from memory isn't compatible wit -> anything and isn't supported by much either. No this card is by some -> previously unknown company who I think have been making SB clones for -> primarily for the Asian and US markets. I can't remeber the name of t -> but it had a picture of a paint tube on the outside of the box and wa -> PowerSource stand at the Melbourne PC show. I don't know whether Powe -> is the sole distributor but if they are they have offices in Sydney a -> Melbourne. I'd be interested if the $600 price tag was just a show sp -> the normal price. Its certainly cheap for a Roland SCC-1 card even wi -> the extra compatiblity with MS Sound System and the SB. The support f -> types of CD-ROM drives is good because you can go for the cheapest at Okay, never heard of it... :) Thanks anyhow, just trying to stay on top of things.... TTYL, Henry --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0051] * Origin: This Old House * D.S. 16.8 * Tacoma Wa (1:138/173) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Number: 2210 To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 9:27p Subj: CD-ROMS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi people! We've got some great deals on some '93 CD-ROMs... these are Overstock Liquidations at, near, or below cost while current INSTOCK quanitities last! They are: Cdn$ US$ ProPhone 1993 7-disc set 50 37 American Business Phonebook 25 19 Foxes 25 19 Busty Babes 25 19 Shareware Studio II 20 16 Night Owl 9 35 26 Erotic Encounters 35 26 Shareware Studio I Free with purchase of Night Owl 9 C ya soon! .\\ichellea 306-789-4654 --- The Mail Box [NR] * Origin: SUPERBOARD/CD-ROM WHOLESALERS (306)789-8682 (1:140/121) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM MOTLEY Number: 2211 To: ERIC ESKAM Date: 08/31/93 12:46a Subj: Help with MSCDEX Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No EE>Anyone have a text file laying around that explains the switches for MSCDEX EE>I would be most appriciative... Eric if you are running Dos 6.0 just type help mscdex..<G> If not go to the directory where it is located and type mscdex and it will show the switches.. * SLMR 2.1a * This Tagline is Shareware, To register, send $20.00..... --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Hello From Pontiac Mi*Fire & Ice*(313)373-8608 (1:2202/9) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM GARCIA Number: 2212 To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 9:09p Subj: Phil Murtell Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No If anyone out there has U.S. Phones on CD ROM would you be so kind as to check on Phil Murtell for me. It's a madeup name (by his father) and as far as I know there are no other Murtell's in America. (He may have moved back to Canada.) He was in the US Army in 1955-56 but I lost track of him after that. Will be watching the Echo. Gratefully yours, Tom Garcia in Tucson, AZ. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: THE AZTEC MAXIMUS BBS, TUCSON, AZ (6O2) 888-0819 (1:300/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN PRITCHARD Number: 2213 To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 10:15p Subj: OMNI CDROM Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone have experiance with the OMNI CD-ROM drive from Creative Labs? Particularly with a SoundBlaster 16. --- GEcho 1.00/beta+ * Origin: Old Pueblo BBS - Tucson Computer Society 602-744-2314 (1:300/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS CONKLIN Number: 2214 To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 8:49p Subj: Best CD-ROM Prices! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No If you're looking for the best pricing on CD-ROM's, give C-3 Production Systems a call. They will to their best to meet or beat anyone around. Best time to catch someone is in the evenings between 5-10 pm CT. They are a home run business which saves YOU from the overhead charges. C-3 Production Systems PO Box 60144 San Angelo, Tx 76906 915-944-7187 (evenings are best between 5-10 PM) Yes, they ship internationally! --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Animal House BBS: 915-942-9350 (1:383/300) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 2215 To: ANYONE Date: 08/31/93 8:21a Subj: HELP! Please Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * Original Area: binkley * Original To : Anyone (1:344/91) I just installed a Pioneer DRM604X on my system. I run MAX/P BINK/P SQUISH/P. everything has worked great from the git go except my users can **NOT** freq files from the CD-ROMS. I am using the *C:\max\maxfiles.idx in the BINK OKfile.lst. All the files in my file areas on the HD are and do freq. Anyone got any ideas as to what the problem might be? I have run "FBP" Any help/suggestion appreciated. :{) --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: EVERGREEN ONE, Cashmere Wa. ZyXEL E+ 19.2 (509) 782-4259 (1:344/91) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 2216 To: DAVID NGHIEM Date: 08/31/93 8:47a Subj: pioneer 600] Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DN> I plan on buying a pioneer 600 changer for use for my BBS. But I am DN> wondering that if I had six cd's on the drive at once, would they show DN> up as 6 drives? Or do I have to alternate the cd's constantly? I hope DN> this is a software automated process. I would hate to buy six cd's, put David, each disk shows up as a separate drive eg: in my system the first cd is drive F the second is G and so on thru K. When a user access a file area for one of the drives the system changes to that drive. Works slick as a whistle and is relativly fast, for a cd. You will appreciate the performance of the drive. --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: EVERGREEN ONE, Cashmere Wa. ZyXEL E+ 19.2 (509) 782-4259 (1:344/91) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DARRELL DAVIS Number: 2217 To: LOUIS GHINIS Date: 09/01/93 10:20a Subj: Re: CD-ROM BUNDLES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >-> I just ordered a Fusion 16 package with a 380 ms drive. I >-> ordered it >-> directly from Media Vision. Most of the retail stores seem to have >-> older packages on the shelves. The package was $399 with $9 >-> shipping. > > That was a typo you said 800ms there ok that sounds right. I don't understand what you are trying to say. Mine is not a typo. The drive is a 380ms drive. Darrell --- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1561) * Origin: The Searchlight Cafe (901)387-1731 *** (1:123/60) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB SMITH Number: 2218 To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/01/93 8:37a Subj: COREL 3.0 IN MONTREAL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BS>Do you work with it? If so tell me... How would I make some business cards? BS>A friend has Microsoft Publisher and says he does cards with it.. Which one GP> I recently made (very successfully) a batch of business cards using GP> cover stock (from the local student bookstore), my LaserJet 4L GP> printer, and Microsoft Word for Windows. The TrueType fonts I used GP> came from the Too Many Typefonts CD-ROM. You don't really need Corel. Ahh..but since I'm not that familiar with your type of printer, is it a color printer ? and as for using microsoft Word for Windows.. is that what you used to create the business cards? and the truetype fonts you used, from the Too Many Typefonts CD Rom is that from Word for Windows? cause now that I have Corel I have enough fonts to drive me crazy.. Regards ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff025/x] * Origin: XON/XOFF Info. Service - Montreal - @xonxoff.com (1:167/159) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EDDIE MAYO Number: 2219 To: DAVID NGHIEM Date: 08/31/93 7:39p Subj: pioneer 600] Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I plan on buying a pioneer 600 changer for use for my BBS. But I am -> wondering that if I had six cd's on the drive at once, would they sho -> up as 6 drives? Or do I have to alternate the cd's constantly? I ho -> this is a software automated process. I would hate to buy six cd's, -> them on the system only to find out that I have to manually change a -> when a user wants to look at another one. If anyone can help in usin -> the pioneer for the BBS, thanks!!!! No problem! It is what you called `softaware automated'. I use the Pioneer 600 on my BBS with 6 cd's. Works FLAWLESSLY!. It sees them a 6 different drives, swaps back and forth. LOVE IT! --- WM v3.01/92-0621 * Origin: On-Line Entertainment BBS (407-992-2379) (1:3609/8.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EDDIE MAYO Number: 2220 To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 08/31/93 7:44p Subj: Received shipment Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Mike, I just wanted to let you know I received my shipment here in FL in 3 days just as you advertise. Thank you for your quick deliveries, my users are `rippin' them apart. :) --- WM v3.01/92-0621 * Origin: On-Line Entertainment BBS (407-992-2379) (1:3609/8.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHARLES EVANS Number: 2221 To: RON HERRING Date: 09/01/93 6:06a Subj: Dizit Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Ron, I just found DIZIT20 on the supercd. I guess i'll have to change the name. Please take it offline for the moment. I'll upload new copy with revised docs. --- DB 1.54/000107 * Origin: The Poor Boy's Bulletin Board (1:18/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 2222 To: DAVID WINGER Date: 09/01/93 9:04p Subj: New Cd-Rom Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Does anyone out there want to buy a brand new still in > the box > Panasonic CR-562-B double speed CD-ROM drive for $480. > > It includes the controller card & all the cables. > I was given two for my birthday. > The other one works great. > Please reply ASAP if you are intersted. > Reply via this echo or phone David on 070 559378. Well, don't have any cash but my Birthday just passed so if you like, my address is: 411 Ninth St. Corpus Christi, Tx 78418 I think you sending that drive would be the best Birthday gift I ever got, except for the cards my kids have made for me! Happy Birthday To Me and of course a Very Special Happy Birthday To You! Just another Nut In This Crazy World, Pat --- FastEcho 1.25 * Origin: Thin Ice - Your traveling on very Thin Ice (1:160/9) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 2223 To: TONY D. BERRY Date: 08/31/93 5:03p Subj: LOW QUALITY CDS???????? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >BF> My dislike of VGA Spectrum I is based solely on the redundant contents >BF> (both archived AND non-archived versions of most of the stuff on it). >You didn't like the selection of stuff they had, or you didn't like the fact >that they had both archived AND unarchived stuff? The latter - wasted a lot of space, as far as I was concerned. * SLMR 2.1a * Caterpillar (n): A soft scratching post for a Kitten. --- TMail v1.31.3 * Origin: Star Fleet Battles HQ Indianapolis [317] 726-1387 (1:231/190) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED FEINS Number: 2224 To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/01/93 9:08p Subj: RE: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Sorry ... No CODs. For $25 just send me a check to: 628 Exeter Road Linden NJ 07036 First check gets them ... otherwise I'll send you back your check. COD fees and problems just isn't worth selling them for me ..... --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Your source for TBBS enhancement software! (1:322/360) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES MUNRO Number: 2225 To: MICHAEL OUJESKY Date: 08/31/93 5:21p Subj: Sony driver for OS2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MO> JM> Does any one know where I could get a driver for my MO> SONY MO> JM> CDU535 series. To enable me to run it with OS2 ver. 2.1. MO> JM> Ihave to reboot dos all the time right now to run my MO> CD. MO> JM> thanks anyone who can help MO> MO> It was hatched into FWDRIVERS within the last couple of weeks. MO> Check your local OS/2 BBS for it. Thanks I'll watch out for it bye jim --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: Electric Blue BBS Node 1 Niagara Falls, Can. (416)35 (1:247/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES MUNRO Number: 2226 To: DAN POLIVY Date: 08/31/93 5:29p Subj: Sony driver for os2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dan I got a message that its about to be released on the BBS's somewhere in the OS2 file sections look out for FWDRIVERS. bye jim --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: Electric Blue BBS Node 1 Niagara Falls, Can. (416)35 (1:247/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SHAWN MAZZUTO Number: 2227 To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 8:11p Subj: NEC CDR-84 Multi-Spin Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! Out of curiosity, would I need to buy another NEC CDR-84 CD-ROM for the BBS, or can I get another NEC CD-ROM, but not as quick. This is so that I can use the same drivers in my config. Shawn --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: The Prime Directive, ZyXEL 19.2, Node *1 (416)894-2503 (1:247/300) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2228 To: MANESH RAMA Date: 09/02/93 2:21a Subj: Re: encyclopedia's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> hello >> i thank you for replying to my note >> but i wuz just wondering if you trade >> oh and is that the cd ver. >> cause if so i have night owls cd >> cause i just got robbed the other day >> on monday so at the moment i cant >> afford it but i can trade >> thanx >> i hope we can Sorry to hear about your problem, but as for trades, we're not setup for that at the moment! We are looking into the possability of such venture, but as I stated, not at the current time. Wish you luck.... Boris Osadciw ... Xpress Yourself! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2229 To: DANNY BANISTER Date: 09/02/93 2:21a Subj: Re: New Additions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ N E W A D D I T I O N S ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>LAN MASTER - 100mgs - 2255 files - Utilities, Programs, Text, & More! >> Files.BBS Structure - PRICE - $29. >> Boris, can you give some details about what's on this CD? I think the above pretty much covers everything. In otherwords, anything to do with Lan programs is on this cd. Although I have to agree, it's only 100megs, it's a one of a kind and could be very useful to those who operate such systems. If you need further assistance, please feel free to drop us a note via the node/net below or call us direct at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist you further. Boris Osadciw ... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2230 To: WILLIAM HERBERT Date: 09/02/93 2:21a Subj: Re: WANTED Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Wanted: Used Pioneer DRM 600a will pay up to 600$$ please >> respond. Or you can reach me on my bbs aT 609 487 8321 >> >> -)verbyte We'll sell you a brand new one for $799. if that will help you. Interested, please feel free to give us a call anytime 7 days a week at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist you further. Boris Osadciw ... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS FITZGERALD Number: 2231 To: ANYONE! Date: 09/01/93 10:12p Subj: Cd-Rom output. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey guys, I am having trouble with something...... On mys SB card, I have 1 output and 2 inouts (mic, midi.) On my CD-Rom, I have two outputs, headphones, and line out (L,R,) Now, hoe can I configure all this to work on a set of little amp speakers. I realize that the line out jacks are only minimal voltage therefore can really be heard with 8ohm connections, so how the hell do I get this to work with only one set of speakers without having to buy the comuter type ammplifier. -Fitz --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: MIDNIGHT MADNESS BBS FIDO 1:2609/21 SLEZNET 90:315/0 (1:2609/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACK MEEHAN Number: 2232 To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 9:12p Subj: Catalog Wanted Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Please send CD-ROM catalog to: Jack Meehan 6368 Briarcliff La. Middleton WI 53562 Thank you ... OFFLINE 1.50 " Why did Kamakazi pilots wear helmets???" --- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93 * Origin: Springfield RBBS * Dane, Wis 608-849-5842 (1:121/26) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON BOSMAN Number: 2233 To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/01/93 2:05p Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LR> BO>Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare -$1199. Thanks for the input. LR> DB> they fit in a 5.25 in slot LR> You're kidding, right? No, they don't fit in a 5.25" FH drive bay. LR>Heck, the CARTRIDGES hardly fit in a 5.25" slot, let alone The reason I asked if they would fit in a 5.25 slot was the ad for "bare" drives. I wondered what they were meant for if not an internal drive slot. I still wonder. ___ X OLX 2.2 X Press Ctrl,Alt,Del for new CAD program. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Lighthouse CBCS HST/V.32, 150+ echos, 517-321-0788 (1:159/950) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY STOTT Number: 2234 To: MIKE AVILA Date: 09/01/93 7:40a Subj: Oz Pricing Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 08-28-93, Mike Avila elucidated to Laurie Batt: MA>-> MA> WOW! That is an outragous price. MA>-> MA>-> You obviously didnt realise that Rowan and Joel are both in Austra MA>-> $750 US dollars converts to about $1100 Ozzie Dollars, MA>WOW! (Again<GRIN>) MA>I feel for you people there. Buying CD equipment MA>and discs (and all computer equipment?) must really set you back. Don't feel too bad Mike, in general we get paid enough Oz dollars to afford the goodies, and at the same time we get to live in the best country! (big grin) --- ■ WinQwk 2.0 B4 #220 ■ Don't you hate it when life doesn't follow the manuals? --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Coastal Communications Multiline BBS (02)977-6820 (3:714/906) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY STOTT Number: 2235 To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/01/93 7:40a Subj: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 08-24-93, Gordon Peterson elucidated to Rowan Evans: GP>RE>For info, the Multimedia council has released the MPC level 2 spec GP>and I have listed it below :- GP> GP>I urge EVERYONE to boycott this garbage. A standard isn't a standard GP>the people making the hardware and software can continue to "raise the GP>bar" by increasing the hardware required every six to twelve months. GP>Why go to the trouble of meeting a standard, if six months later you GP>find that you're still screwed? :-(( GP> Sorry that you're upset Gordon, but until we can get full-motion full-screen high resolution video with integrated hi-fi sound and full-length movies on cd-rom, I think the standards are going to keep moving upwards. The real benefit of standards is that it allows authors of multimedia titles to pick a level of equipment to aim at. Obviously, authors with business sense will NOT exclude big sections of their potential market, so they will pitch their product accordingly. Some other authors will "push the envelope" because they believe their product will be attractive enough to cause users to upgrade their equipment (7th Guest immediately springs to mind..). I would never recommend someone buys less than an MPC-2 standard computer (in fact I'd aim a little higher in the memory and hard disk areas), but that doesn't mean I'd sneer at someone who owns lesser equipment.. PS I'm not speaking from on high here, my sound card is only 8 bit, so my own system misses out on MPC-2 standard. I'll get a better sound card once software turns up to justify it... --- ■ WinQwk 2.0 B4 #220 ■ Do Molecular Biologists wear designer Genes? --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Coastal Communications Multiline BBS (02)977-6820 (3:714/906) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS BAKER Number: 2236 To: JOSH PICHE Date: 08/30/93 2:26p Subj: CD-Rom kit Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No n f --- Squish/2 v1.01 * Origin: Melb. PC User Group BBS. - 61-3-699-6788 (3:632/309) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SUNNY LEUNG Number: 2237 To: ALL Date: 09/02/93 5:41a Subj: CD authoring Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi everybody, Does anyone here in Australia make CD's for business organisations? By this I mean: a firm has a large database it wants to distribute to its subsidiaries. CD-ROM would be an excellent way to achieve this. The firm has the data to be transferred to CD. Would anyone in Australia be willing to supply a price on such a service? Are there any other requirements (e.g. firm's data to be stored on tape)? Regards, Sunny. --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Heaven's Door * 61-2-440-8937 * 2 lines * T.PEP V32bis (3:711/927) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN TUDOR Number: 2238 To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 7:54a Subj: Panasonic CD drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi all, I have a Panasonic CR-562-B drive which came with two drivers - SBCD.SYS and CDMKE41.SYS. Is there any difference between the drivers ? At the moment I am using the SBCD.SYS driver with no problems. Thanks for any info, Sean. ... Jurassic Sparcs - the first computers with dinosaur power ... --- Fmail 0.96+ RA2+ * Origin: Galen BBS "A Happy Heart is like Good Medicine" (3:711/920.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN TUDOR Number: 2239 To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 7:57a Subj: KQ5 & SQ4 CD's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi all, I am using a Panasonic CR-562-B drive. It came with Kings Quest 5 and Space Quest 4. KQ5 runs great with full speech but when I run SQ4 I have to switch to text only because I am getting music but NO speech whatsoever. Is there a bug in SQ4 or is there another problem ? Has anyone else been able to run SQ4 with full speech ? Thanks for any info, Sean. ... Jurassic Sparcs - the first computers with dinosaur power ... --- Fmail 0.96+ RA2+ * Origin: Galen BBS "A Happy Heart is like Good Medicine" (3:711/920.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOONG CHUNG Number: 2240 To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 08/31/93 7:37p Subj: Re: Panasonic CDR-63 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Rowan Evans to Loong Chung <=- RE> Hi Loong! RE> RE> On 08-20-93 Loong Chung wrote to All... LC> Could any one give me full details on the Panasonic CDR-563? LC> e.g. Speed, transfer rate etc. RE> RE> Panasonic CR563 (as OEMmed to Creative Labs, normally CR562B) RE> RE> Transfer Rate 300 Kbps in double speed mode RE> 150 Kbps in single speed mode RE> RE> Avg Acess 320ms in single speed mode RE> 450ms in double speed mode RE> RE> Motorised tray for CD-ROM. RE> RE> JEDIC connector for external DAT output RE> RE> CD Audio output RE> RE> Panasonic (Creative Labs) AT bus.... RE> LC> And how much is it in Australia? RE> RE> I bought mine from Osborne in Sydney for $A395.00 including cables RE> and 8 bit interface.... RE> RE> Cheers! Hi Rowan What is JEDIC connector for external DAT output? And does it have any problem running animation of something like that? e.g. pauses, jerky picture etc. Can it be plug into a SB Pro v1. And does a 8bit interface card have any difference to a 16bit interface card for connecting to the CDROM. Is it faster? Thanks Loong --- Fmail 0.96+ RA2+ * Origin: Galen BBS "A Happy Heart is like Good Medicine" (3:711/920.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SIMON COGGINS Number: 2241 To: ALASTAIR EDGINGTON Date: 08/29/93 7:03a Subj: Os/2 And Soundblaster Pro 2.0 Cd-rom Driv Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hiya, > I've got OS/2 2.1, MultiMedia Program Manager with > SoundBlaster Pro set up and > working fine, but i can't get the SoundBlaster CD-ROM > working!! > I've tried inserting soundblaster's sbpcd.sys (or > whateva it's called) in > os/2's config.sys. This works fine, and the CD is > accessed and all is fine. I > just can't figure out where to get the cd-rom > extensions driver from!! mscdex > won't work. it comes up with incorrect dos version. In the manual i received with my drive it told me to load SETVER.EXE if you have a lower version of than MS-DOS6. So in you can run SETVER.EXE as you boot up OS/2 it might work.. Or find a program that does the same thing.. Hope this helps.. Regards. Simon Simon's Place Worldnet - 61:6800/140 Fidonet - 3:640/708 --- FMail 0.90 * Origin: Simon's Place Townsville Australia. 9pm - 6am (077)-211081 (3:640/708) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LOUIS GHINIS Number: 2242 To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/01/93 12:35p Subj: POLICE QUEST 4 (CD-ROM) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Why are you upset about a couple bucks? It takes about 1mil dollars -> to create a game today, and about 2yrs. worth of labor! -> The prices are VERY good! yeah right it takes them 1 million dollars thats a bunch of bull. At the most maybe 2 programmers and 2 graphic artists and at the most 1 music/fx artist so thats around $100-200 grand tops unless the employees are sitting around doing barely nothing then it would cost 1 million dollars. But it is true it does take them a year can tell by the length -> As for the others, they are STILL $40-$50 mailorder! Only on this -> board-echo have I seen any for under $20! -> Sierra wants $25 plus shipping to upgrade if you have original disk -> #1 or page of manual. Still sierra is making more profit (per unit) off of the cd version since a disc is much cheaper than 6-10 diskettes. -> As for the others, they are STILL $40-$50 mailorder! Only on this -> board-echo have I seen any for under $20! I've seem sierra games going for almost $13 (close to $10) for the olrder ones of course. Anyways atleast if you wait a year they drop half in price to $20 instead of $40-50. Its just like the movie industry pay $7 per person then the price chops in half or less when it goes on video and only pay $2 for the whole family. Just that there are a lot of good games out there and to buy them all is very expensive atleast if you buy then 1 year older you can get twice as much as you would of got when you bought them brand new. Louis --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRAD ORR Number: 2243 To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 3:52p Subj: CD Rom Drive Sound Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hya. I have a question about my CDROM drive. I have a Texel DM3401 ( an internal double speed drive) and there is a headphone jack on the front of the drive that I have _never_ been able to get sound from using music cd's. What must I do to hear sound from this jack? (I have a SB16 as well, and music cd's will play through it.) On another note, when I play The Seventh Guest, during the Intro screen when you start a new game, there is no music. The book from the game says that I have to set up the drive for PCM sound or somesuch thing. (I dont have the manual with me here) how do i do this? Is my drive malfunctioning? I would really appriciate any help that anyone could give me. Thanks :) brad ... "42? 7 and a half million years and all you can come up with is 42?!" --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: TechTalk; Calgary, Alberta, CANADA. HST 16.8/V32bis (1:134/40) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD POUNCY Number: 2244 To: DOUG SCHWANTES Date: 09/01/93 9:28p Subj: CD-ROM disk cache Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Doug Schwantes wrote in a message to All: DS> Does anyone out there know of a good disk cache for a DS> CD-ROM? Try HyperDisk by HyperWare. So far it has been great. Peace, Richard --- timEd/B8 * Origin: The Ingelwood RoofTop! 310-677-4007 (1:102/535) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 2245 To: ALL Date: 08/30/93 11:24a Subj: CD-ROMS-DISCOUNT PRICES! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 300 titles in stock. WING COMMANDER & ULTIMA VI $15.53 WORLD ATLAS (MPC OR DOS) $15.53 KODAK PHOTO CD $15.53 ANIMALS MPC (SAN DIEGO ZOO) $20.70 DAGGER OF AMON RA $32.78 TOO MANY MORE TO LIST!!! KINGS QUEST V $16.74 LOOM $14.66 FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE SUPER SHAREWARE/w/SUPER BBS $31.05 E-mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES (CIA) $31.91 ADDRESS!!!! NIGHT OWL 9 $30.19 UP ALL NIGHT $18.11 ***ADULT*** ASIAN LADIES $31.91 (BBS READY) THINGS CHANGE:MY FIRST TIME $37.09 (XXX 80 MIN FULL MOTION VIDEO) MOVING FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY) VISUAL FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY) VOLCANO $32.78 (BBS READY) SOUTHERN BEAUTIES $31.91 (BBS READY) STAREWARE $31.91 (BBS READY) STORM I,II,III $22.38 (EACH!) BBS READY HIDDEN OBSESSIONS $48.00 (FULL MOTION VIDEO) SEXXCAPADES-THE MOVIE $44.20 (FULL MOTION VIDEO) MY PRIVATE COLLECTION $32.78 (BBS READY) DEEP THROAT $42.76 FULL MOTION VIDEO MAN POWER $41.00 BBS READY WE ACCEPT VISA, MC, AX & DISCOVER. CHECK OR M.O. (ADD 3% FOR CREDIT CARDS $4.00 S&H FOR ORDERS OF 1-5..$1.00 PER EACH ADDITIONAL DISC. SHORELINE CD-ROM PHONE: (310) 652-2858 1206 S. HOLT AVE. #1 LOS ANGELES, CA 90032 FAX: (310) 652-2608 * RM 1.0 * Eval Day 4 * RoboMail -- The ultimate QWK compatible message manag --- GOMail v1.2 [DEMO] 09-18-93 * Origin: Origin Line Not Defined In GOEDIT (1:102/523) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE WON Number: 2246 To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 1:36a Subj: Panasonic CR562B Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I am considering getting this CD-ROM drive to add to my system. Can anyone tell me pros & cons of this drive? I had intended to go with a SCSI drive initially, but the cost was too much to justify. Now the Panasonic has come out and it seems like a reasonable drive. No one on the nets seem to say that it is a bad drive. One reservation that I've got is the fact that it is a proprietary format. This may just be a minor point because if the SoundBlaster card is ever knocked off as being the #1 sound card, I could go out and buy the controller, just for the CR562B. The info claims that it adheres to the MPC-2 standards, so I can just take that at face value as being true. Being 320 ms access time with 300 kb/s is obviously better than the Mitsumi and they are in a similar price range. Using Norton Speed cache may help things also. Is there any disadvantage to the slide out tray rather than a caddy system? Has anyone had any compatibility problems with this drive? Can anyone tell me if updated drivers would be obtained from Panasonic, or Creative Labs? I hear that this drive was a joint venture between the two companies. I also read that a program is not included to play music CD's with this drive. Is that correct? If so, can any ole program that plays music CD's on other drives be compatible? Also what sort of RAM is needed to load the drivers for the Panasonic? Is the size comparable to the other drives? I assume that it will be able to be loaded into high memory. Please bear with me here, as I am just using this forum as a sounding board. I think that this just MAY be the one! I want to make a intelligent decision and would appreciate any input for this purchase. By the way, I'll just be using this drive for normal stuff, like games, running Multi-media apps, possibly Corel, and any interesting stuff that comes along. I just want a drive that will be suitable for software that will come out in the next couple of years. I was almost considering the Toshiba 3401B, but the dollars were still too much. Then this was introduced at a reasonable amount of money. Any help is appreciated. TTYL ... If there is an obvious solution it is always obvious. * TLX v3.00 * --- Blue Wave/TG v2.12 * Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK RUSKO Number: 2247 To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/01/93 4:48p Subj: Mpc Atlas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GORDON PETERSON duly noted in a message to ALLEN DIETZ on 08-24-1993 and mentioned GP> AD>For a world atlas, Global Explorer from DeLorme Mapping is the best. GP> GP> AD>my opinion, Global Explorer is FAR superior to any other CD-ROM GP> AD>based world atlas currently on the market. GP> GP> I second that opinion. The Software Toolworks US/World Atlas, for GP> example, is pathetic by comparison (although admittedly cheaper). GP> GP> * SLMR 2.1 * Gord...Would you be kind enough to post an address please..Thanx..Frank Entered on <<08-24-1993>> from Shawnigan Lake B.C. --- FastEcho/386 B0617 * Origin: (1:340/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEVIN SULLIVAN Number: 2248 To: MIKE AVILA Date: 09/01/93 1:22a Subj: PAS/Texel Owners Onegaish Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Onegaishimasu -- Japanese for "please look favorably on my request..." And you thought this was computers only, for shame... MA> I got the Texel drive and the PAStudio16 ... A friend and I have the same setup, but we are still cutting our teeth on getting it going. Due to a comedy of errors <sigh> a well-known dealer shipped my system sans upgrade kit in the same box, so I have 12 discs, a bare drive, the PAStudio, no SCSI cable or sound cable or <maybe> the proper drivers. It is "in the mail," and I have no reason to doubt its truth, I just hate the one month wait for overseas shipping crap with errors and different shipping dates causing excessive delays and transpacific calls with no hard info. Don't order overseas unless price and time outweigh impatience and service and perfection concerns. Those 2am panic calls add up! <ASIDE> But then I have another friend ordering a Gateway and they have been promising "this week" for 5 weeks, and he is FED UP worse than I at this point; he is going to cancel and go with another dealer if his call gets another song and dance into never-never-land of the future. And, he wants a "loaded" system with CDROM and Telepath modem, despite my whiffs of warning that both these are not quite tops in ease. Turnkey is his goal. My Q is, why won't the MSCDEX.EXE and TSLCDR.SYS shipping with the PAStudio work as is? What more is needed, and what exactly is in this PAS upgrade kit? I look in the TSLCDR.SYS file, it says TEXEL xx24, so it apparently can run the Texel, so what are we waiting for? Apparently all the proper command lines of MSCDEX and TSLCDR.SYS are in the PAS install books, and his config and autoexec but he gets (with SCSI cable but not sound) hooked up a "No device recognized" error on bootup. Chapter and verse, Install guide (PAStudio) pg 44-48, Texel Troubleshooting chapter pgs 32-39. Maybe those Q&A questions in the back ARE worth something, though academic to me till the SCSI & sound cables appear. Keep in mind both of us are short the Upgrade kit with supposed drivers and cables (SCSI 50 pin & sound jumper), but my friend balked at the $90US price for the upgrade kit from HIS (different) dealer, and bought a $10 SCSI cable, figures he can piece together the sound cable himself in Akihabara (Japan's Electric City, wild computer/hardware place 10 blocks square). Is he going to miss some critical software with the upgrade? Short and simple, what comes with the upgrade kit and is it *necessary* for a single cdrom off PAStudio card given access to 3rd party SCSI and sound cables? What critical driver beyond the PAStudio MSCDEX and TSLCDR.SYS is necessary? The straight skinny from a PAStudio and Texel owner with working system is needed. QEMM or EMM excludes as well. Or, is this just a software memory range exclusion conflict with the Texel's 0388H base factory address range? Conflict? Procedure for chasing down. HELP! Nobody said SCSI was going to be painless, and we need the voice of wisdom before we get soured on the wonderful PAS card, Texel drive, and cowboy dealers pushing devices not painless SYSTEMS that work first time for butt-stupid consumers [not really, but this has been a bit frustrating]. Apologize for length, but this is worth clearing up, for this month, at least! <g> If we get concise response, I will save it and upload for the next panicked consumer in the death throes of ignorance.